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Oct 15, 2015 20:28:52   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
Brucej67 wrote:
Not really Mike as the report stated "Al Jazeera America published a lengthy report" and they are a Islamic news station. Since B&H is a Jewish business can Al Jazeera be trusted to report fairly.


I don't think this has anything to do with religion or ethnicity.

Mike

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Oct 15, 2015 20:34:58   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
teesquare wrote:
Fair enough...then please answer this question with intellectual honesty: *IF* the "radical Islamists" represent a minority as we are led to believe by politicians and the media - and Islam spokespersons...THEN WHY in the name of G_d ( or Allah if you see the need to call on the Moon Goddess of ancient pre-Islam paganism) don't the MAJORITY of the moderates subjugate or eradicate the crazies?
If you can rationalize that away - you are no better than the greatest threat to current civilization - that being the radical factions of Islam...or Islam itself given hat Islam cannot/will not harness/wipeout it's own problems. Period.
Fair enough...then please answer this question wit... (show quote)


The majority in all countries is almost always struggling to "subjugate or eradicate the crazies." I would say that we have the same problem in the US, and are failing here to reign in "the crazies."

Saudi Arabia is a major source of training and funding for extremists. The majority there live under a brutal feudal dictatorship, and have no power to be subjugating or eradicating anyone, and the alliance by our own country with that dictatorship serves the needs of those in power here while keeping the tyrants in power there. The majority of people in the world have little power or say.

Why don't those of us who are responsible gun owners in the US "subjugate or eradicate the crazies" using guns to shoot up school children?

Mike

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Oct 15, 2015 20:45:17   #
teesquare Loc: USA
 
Blenheim Orange wrote:
The majority in all countries is almost always struggling to "subjugate or eradicate the crazies." I would say that we have the same problem in the US, and are failing here to reign in "the crazies."

Saudi Arabia is a major source of training and funding for extremists. The majority there live under a brutal feudal dictatorship, and have no power to be subjugating or eradicating anyone, and the alliance by our own country with that dictatorship serves the needs of those in power here while keeping the tyrants in power there. The majority of people in the world have little power or say.

Why don't those of us who are responsible gun owners in the US "subjugate or eradicate the crazies" using guns to shoot up school children?

Mike
The majority in all countries is almost always str... (show quote)


Mike - your analogies are not realistic. Look at the numbers. HOW many American in the USA are gathered up, held, and beheaded on camera? Sure, we have crime here. But what we DO NOT have is a theology which aspire to hasten the end of the world. The few times we have had those tiny numbered minorities - the govt. has in fact stepped in ( right or wrong..) David Koresh, The Freemen, - you name 'em.
Secondly - 96% of all of the mass shootings that have occurred in the last 10 years have been in "gun free zones". It does not require a degree from Harvard to figure out that when bad guys/crazies know that all of us that are law abiding citizens cannot have arms in an area - it encourages their chicken shit gene which kicks in- and they exercise maximum cowardice by slaughtering innocents. SO - are we to blame for that too? Our govt. has quietly been stripping funding from mental healthcare - and this I know even at the local level in talking with the doctors and nurses that we work with. I see the numbers. I see the ER staff now having to cover the mental ER ward as well - as hospital corporations are laying off the psych. ER nursing staff.
Yes - I agree we still have far too much in these kinds of crimes. SO, I ask you WHY that should mean that we give a wider birth and excuses for foreign nationals to kill our people. That would be the gist of your argument?

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Oct 15, 2015 20:54:38   #
busmaster2 Loc: College Point NY
 
Brucej67 wrote:
Then why is their religious writing just the opposite?


Not that any of this matters, but hitler signed non aggression pacts with Stalin and chamberlain. We all know how that ended up, words are cheap.

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Oct 15, 2015 21:13:26   #
Wrangler Loc: North Texas
 
ken hubert wrote:
How about we give you a late term abortion. Sounds better


Ah that's already been tried. You will have to do better than that.

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Oct 15, 2015 21:17:30   #
teesquare Loc: USA
 
Wrangler wrote:
Ah that's already been tried. You will have to do better than that.


Between the two of you - did your parents have any children that lived?

:lol:

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Oct 15, 2015 21:46:26   #
ken hubert Loc: Missouri
 
Wrangler wrote:
Ah that's already been tried. You will have to do better than that.


Not you. I was meaning that moron titsquare.

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Oct 15, 2015 21:47:15   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
WHY IS THIS NASTY, CONTENTIOUS, POLITICAL, SOMTIMES RACIST, AND NON PHOTOGRAPHY RELATED THREAD STILL IN THE MAIN PHOTOGRAPHY FORUM? THIS HAS GOTTEN OUT OF CONTROL! WHERE THE HECK IS ADMIN?

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Oct 15, 2015 21:47:27   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
Wrangler wrote:
Ah that's already been tried. You will have to do better than that.


This discussion is going south very fast.

Maybe another reason to move the line to where South begins.

How's your Spanish?

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Oct 15, 2015 21:49:21   #
ken hubert Loc: Missouri
 
mwsilvers wrote:
WHY IS THIS NASTY, CONTENTIOUS, POLITICAL, SOMTIMES RACIST, AND NON PHOTOGRAPHY RELATED THREAD STILL IN THE MAIN PHOTOGRAPHY FORUM? THIS HAS GOTTEN OUT OF CONTROL! WHERE THE HECK IS ADMIN?


The admin you have dialed is no longer in service. If you... :D

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Oct 15, 2015 21:49:57   #
teesquare Loc: USA
 
ken hubert wrote:
Not you. I was meaning that moron titsquare.


I have a moron for each you. Swinging.

You know - responding you the 2 of you is is like having a battle of wits - with 2 un-armed idiots, in search of their villages.

Congrats! You have driven down the average I.Q. on this forum.
:thumbup: :lol:

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Oct 15, 2015 21:54:23   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
Perhaps we should move this discussion.

When did Atticus Flinch?

We may never know, but I am less impressed with some of our "American Bretheren" than I am with many others.

We do indeed live in interesting times.

When did America cease to be the Land of the Free and become the Land of the Subjugated, Reviled, or Oppressed?

Oh, and I do have my kevlar underwear on, so go for it if you wish!

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Oct 15, 2015 21:58:55   #
ken hubert Loc: Missouri
 
teesquare wrote:
I have a moron for each you. Swinging.

You know - responding you the 2 of you is is like having a battle of wits - with 2 un-armed idiots, in search of their villages.

Congrats! You have driven down the average I.Q. on this forum.
:thumbup: :lol:


Couldn't have been high to start with if you are on it. :thumbup:

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Oct 15, 2015 21:59:07   #
teesquare Loc: USA
 
Why move it? I and a couple of others have been successively subverting it with completely unrelated B.S. and picking at one another in order to distract from what started as an ugliness about a topic that really could not - and should not be here at all. It only served to divide folks along the lines of either supporting labor or management in what should have been a private issue to settle between them - THEN we could decide - if it was a real issue, if it mattered, or whether we should even think about it again....

But it has been fun providing cheap entertainment.

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Oct 15, 2015 22:01:07   #
teesquare Loc: USA
 
ken hubert wrote:
Couldn't have been high to start with if you are on it. :thumbup:


touche! Not bad for playing mental pool with a rope Ken. Got anymore? Oh - that's right..."one shot Ken"...isn't that your nickname around the house?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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