Kento
Loc: East End of Long Island
dlmorris wrote:
Beirut Lebanon back in the '60's
Loved a fondue in the . Myrten House? Or some such name.
What song is it? I have about 75 old 78's
bluescreek wrote:
Lots of patience using a small brush in a well lit area, I think it's possible.
Possible but not likely. I've used plenty of E6000, it is a bit too thick to apply sparingly and precisely. It would only get harder and thicker as it was being applied. E600 is great for some things, but I seriously doubt it would work in this situation. Best thing would be to try a sample repair first, a practice session.
Beard43
Loc: End of the Oregon Trail
What was the song that you want to save?
Ron
Earworms wrote:
Just exactly how would you keep the glue from squishing out of the break and not getting into the record grooves? The goal is not only to repair the record, but also for it to continue to be a playable!
Exactly. "Repairing it" is probably doable. getting a stylus to actually track the groves is quite another thing. Even if the join is good and no glue gets into the grooves, and that's a BIG if, the lateral alignment across the two halves would have to be absolutely perfect. It can't even be off by a fraction of a millimeter or the grooves from one half won't align with those from the other properly. It would have to be done under great magnification in a lab environment by a skilled technician to have any hope of success, and even then it would be highly unlikely to be successful. We're not talking about repairing a piece of pottery here.
sonic
Loc: chesterfield UK
How manny pieces is the record in , if it's 2 then it may be possible, if it's 3 then very unlikely as any glue applied between the joint will throw the pitch out on the other pieces.
Thats why I suggested plastic weld , but i was not aware off the material in question sorry
Sneidley wrote:
What song is it? I have about 75 old 78's
Forgive My Heart by Nat King Cole, Capitol #3234, was a hit for him in 1955.
thanks.
sonic wrote:
How manny pieces is the record in , if it's 2 then it may be possible, if it's 3 then very unlikely as any glue applied between the joint will throw the pitch out on the other pieces.
Thats why I suggested plastic weld , but i was not aware off the material in question sorry
Two pieces, almost perfectly in half.
sonic
Loc: chesterfield UK
There is a website called 78record.com and on there there is a section about repairing broken 78's .
Something about using apoxy and tape to hold the record together then playing the record before the glue sets to remove any glue from the playing groove .
I'm on my phone at the moment so will provide a link when i get on my laptop
I would use a nails and hammer that way the needle would skip over the soldier and get a better sound.
You could try with a strudy tape from the back side, the two halves together to get the fit correct before gluing. Then play it to hear the sound and any adjusting necessary. Once satisfied take the record and bend it with the tape in place to expose the edge. Then apply glue to only the inside hub and the outside edge (where there are no grooves)and re-bend back in place to set. Once set, remove the tape.
The tape should act like a hinge.
Also place wax paper over the hub (label area) to prevent the tape from sticking to the label on the back side as it crosses from one side to the other. This save the label. Also puncture a hole for the spindle to fit through the tape and wax paper for when you are making sure everything aligns before gluing.
Also another procedure could be; once you applied the glue, tape the very ends to aid in stability while drying.
Once done, if this allows too flexing in the grooves while playing, you can always apply glue to the grooves on the back side to stop this. You did mention he would not use that side anyway.
Hope this helps!
Earworms wrote:
Possible but not likely. I've used plenty of E6000, it is a bit too thick to apply sparingly and precisely. It would only get harder and thicker as it was being applied. E600 is great for some things, but I seriously doubt it would work in this situation. Best thing would be to try a sample repair first, a practice session.
Yes, I've used it quite a bit, also, a practice session makes sense.
Most of the epoxies and super glues "melt" plastic, vinyl and similar materials to form a bond thus obscuring the two meeting edges slightly. put a drop on Styrofoam and watch it eat a hole in it. It's a shame what happened but he's got to look harder for a replacement. There are so many vinyl record shops in the US, he's bound to find one. Just takes time and effort ... and time... :-)
Most of the epoxies and super glues "melt" plastic, vinyl and similar materials to form a bond thus obscuring the two meeting edges slightly. put a drop on Styrofoam and watch it eat a hole in it. It's a shame what happened but he's got to look harder for a replacement. There are so many vinyl record shops in the US, he's bound to find one. Just takes time and effort ... and time... :-)
EdM
Loc: FN30JS
all previous answers sound right, but super glue, ( Eastmen 910)is pretty neat stuff... try it...
ratty old elmers, if you apply it to both sides, wipe off excess and LET IT DRY, then add trace more and clamp it, is pretty neat stuff also, but you are going to hear the snap as the needle goes over the joins...
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