Planned Parenthood... STRIKE TWO!!!
This is reprehensible. I saw this today and had to watch it five times to make sure I was hearing it right. No matter what your view of abortion, pro life, pro choice, or whatever, if what Planned Parenthood is doing does not repulse you then there is something seriously wrong with you.
Since Roe v Wade 55,000,000 abortions and counting............
I'm not taking sides nor trying to start an argument. If memory serves, one of the issues which the Affordable Health Care Act faced was abortion issues. People were reluctant to have a mandatory fee of which a portion was used for abortion.
I can understand those folks whose religious, or even personal, beliefs ran contrary to abortion and being forced to pay in a medical insurance program which covered that procedure.
Well, we all forced to pay taxes, well most of us at least. Shouldn't this be treated, now even more so, the same? There should be a resounding and coordinated effort put forth to force the government to cease funding this barbaric organization.
--Bob
SBW wrote:
I guess this one sent the libs behind their rock.
That's because this is SO blatant there can be no discussion or defense. There will be much deflection and mis-direction though.
While I realize that many of you consider the NYTimes an agent of Satan or the Anti-Christ you might want to consider the possibility that Faux News broadcast a heavily edited clip from a much longer video. Have a look at this from the NYT:
The Opinion Pages | EDITORIAL
The Campaign of Deception Against Planned Parenthood
By THE EDITORIAL BOARD JULY 22, 2015
A hidden-camera video released last week purported to show that Planned Parenthood illegally sells tissue from aborted fetuses. It shows nothing of the sort. But it is the latest in a series of unrelenting attacks on Planned Parenthood, which offers health care services to millions of people every year. The politicians howling to defund Planned Parenthood care nothing about the truth here, being perfectly willing to undermine womens reproductive rights any way they can.
With Planned Parenthood Videos, Activist Ignites Abortion IssueJULY 21, 2015
The nine-minute video clip released by the Center for Medical Progress, an outfit apparently created in 2013, invites viewers to Hold Planned Parenthood accountable for their illegal sale of baby parts. In it, Dr. Deborah Nucatola, Planned Parenthoods senior director of medical services, is seen discussing the collection of fetal tissue in a lunch meeting with two people posing as potential tissue buyers. A second video, released on Tuesday, shows another Planned Parenthood staff member discussing fetal tissue.
After the first videos release, Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky pledged to introduce an amendment to pending Senate legislation to immediately strip every dollar of Planned Parenthood funding. Senator Ted Cruz of Texas called for defunding and for an investigation of Planned Parenthoods activities regarding the sale and transfer of aborted body parts. The House Energy and Commerce Committee is undertaking an investigation, and Gov. Greg Abbott of Texas and Gov. Bobby Jindal of Louisiana have ordered investigations in their states.
The full video of the lunch meeting, over two hours long and released by the Center for Medical Progress after complaints by Planned Parenthood, shows something very different from what these critics claim. Clearly, the shorter version was edited to eliminate statements by Dr. Nucatola explaining that Planned Parenthood does not profit from tissue donation, which requires the clear consent of the patient. Planned Parenthood affiliates only accept money between $30 and $100 per specimen, according to Dr. Nucatola to cover costs associated with collecting and transporting the tissue. This is not something with any revenue stream that affiliates are looking at, she said. Under federal law, facilities may be reimbursed for costs associated with fetal tissue donation, like transportation and storage.
According to a letter sent by Roger Evans, a lawyer for Planned Parenthood, to the House Energy and Commerce Committee, the video is a result of a years long campaign of deception. The head of the Center for Medical Progress, David Daleiden, created a fake company called Biomax Procurement Services almost three years ago for the purpose of tricking Planned Parenthood employees, the letter alleges, even setting up exhibits at Planned Parenthoods national conferences. The letter also says Biomax offered a Planned Parenthood affiliate $1,600 for a fetal liver and thymus, presumably to trap the affiliate in the act of accepting a high payment for fetal tissue. The affiliate declined.
In a statement on its website, the Center for Medical Progress says it follows all applicable laws in the course of our investigative journalism work.
Anti-abortion groups have long pushed to defund Planned Parenthood, even though no federal money is used to provide abortions. But that hasnt stopped their efforts to shut down the clinics, which provide services like contraception, cancer screening and other tests.
The Center for Medical Progress which managed to get tax-exempt status in 2013 as a biomedicine charity, according to a report by The Huffington Post appears to have done little beyond producing the undercover video. According to its registration form with the California attorney general, it has three officers: Mr. Daleiden; Albin Rhomberg, who has participated in anti-abortion protests; and Troy Newman, the president of the anti-abortion group Operation Rescue.
In a statement last week, Cecile Richards, the president of the Planned Parenthood Federation of America, said that our donation programs like any other high-quality health care providers follow all laws and ethical guidelines and that Planned Parenthood stands behind our work to help women and families donate tissue for medical research when they wish to.
Researchers use fetal tissue to study and develop treatments for diseases and conditions like H.I.V., hepatitis, congenital heart defects, retinal degeneration and Parkinsons. Last year, the National Institutes of Health gave $76 million in grants for fetal tissue research. Planned Parenthood is certainly not the only collector of fetal tissue clinics associated with universities also supply tissue for research.
The Center for Medical Progress video campaign is a dishonest attempt to make legal, voluntary and potentially lifesaving tissue donations appear nefarious and illegal. Lawmakers responding by promoting their own anti-choice agenda are rewarding deception and putting womens health and their constitutionally protected rights at risk.
I wonder, did any of you bother to READ the editorial I posted from the NY Times? Perhaps that was too much work?
GeorgeH wrote:
I wonder, did any of you bother to READ the editorial I posted from the NY Times? Perhaps that was too much work?
Yes, I read it. Not too much work. It is the NY times and written for an eighth grade mentality, like most national daily news tabloids.
And an opinion.
GeorgeH wrote:
I wonder, did any of you bother to READ the editorial I posted from the NY Times? Perhaps that was too much work?
Great article George, it's just the religious crazies who wouldn't want this done. Personally, I would prefer fetuses be used to practice medical research but the nut jobs go wild. Abortions have been done throughout history and will continue to be.
dljen wrote:
Great article George, it's just the religious crazies who wouldn't want this done. Personally, I would prefer fetuses be used to practice medical research but the nut jobs go wild. Abortions have been done throughout history and will continue to be.
Thanks, Donna. Our resident trolls and wackos can't be bothered with the entire story when it shows that Faux News is manipulating the facts. Nothing new there! As you say there will always be abortions, the question is will they be performed under safe conditions, or in an alley with a coat hanger.
The wackos would deny advancing medicine through stem cell research. I wonder if they'd change their tune if they had a condition which might be cured through such research.
GeorgeH wrote:
Thanks, Donna. Our resident trolls and wackos can't be bothered with the entire story when it shows that Faux News is manipulating the facts. Nothing new there! As you say there will always be abortions, the question is will they be performed under safe conditions, or in an alley with a coat hanger.
The wackos would deny advancing medicine through stem cell research. I wonder if they'd change their tune if they had a condition which might be cured through such research.
They'd be whining loudly demanding that their condition be addressed any way possible but you know, George, how science is regarded by them. They want only to be firmly entrenched in the 1950's, they haven't evolved nor do they realize that it's 2015. It's pitiful.
I do believe there is payback in life, that Karma really does exist. It would be such a shame that any of them suffer from a disease that could be cured if scientists used stem cell research on fetuses. Why would anyone want something disposed when it could be of beneficial use to living beings? Confusing as hell. Thanks George. :)
dljen wrote:
They'd be whining loudly demanding that their condition be addressed any way possible but you know, George, how science is regarded by them. They want only to be firmly entrenched in the 1950's, they haven't evolved nor do they realize that it's 2015. It's pitiful.
I do believe there is payback in life, that Karma really does exist. It would be such a shame that any of them suffer from a disease that could be cured if scientists used stem cell research on fetuses. Why would anyone want something disposed when it could be of beneficial use to living beings? Confusing as hell. Thanks George. :)
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You are a great example of the Karma thing if there were one.
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