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Jun 11, 2015 15:42:03   #
Nightski
 
imagemeister wrote:
Hi Nightski:

Wildlife and landscape are mutually exclusive ! For wildlife you need SPEED......especially FPS - like 10-12 ......and "reach" - as in crop frame - as in Canon 7D II or Sony A77 II !

With regards to noise and reach, - well applied software at the pixel level is the future - .....like the in camera Sony Clear Image Zoom. Soon, mechanical /optical tele extenders and moving mirrors in large heavy mirror boxes will be history.


Well, I have a Canon and I'm in deep with Canon lenses. So Canon it will be. I can see that it's hard to do everything as well as I would like with one camera.

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Jun 11, 2015 15:50:03   #
Nightski
 
The 7DII has GPS too. :-D I love the GPS feature! wow .. 10fps .. that's awesome. And I believe I can use my Sigma on it for a while. It's my understanding that EF lenses work on cropped sensors whereas EF-S lenses only work on cropped sensor Canons .. not full frame ones. I was careful to buy EF lenses when I had my Rebel XTI .. I knew I'd want a full frame someday.

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Jun 11, 2015 17:15:15   #
Karl Shuffler Loc: Weinert, Texas
 
This information about pixel count relates only to DSLR's having a full size sensor having the area the same as the area in which 35mm film which measures 24x36 mm. Being 864 square mm. Think this as the area in which pixels are being filled in a basket. No change in basket size. The basket is full. Instead of pixels we fill the basket with apples. Two baskets, being the same size. However one basket has twice the number of Apples as the other. Each basket is indeed full. How can that be? Answer ... Apples in one basket is twice the size as the other, or can be looked at as being half the size the other. One camera having 25Mp compared to 50Mp means the pixel in the 50 Mp is half the size of the 25Mp camera. The sensor is filled completely regardless, of the size of collected l.
As pixel become smaller in size, that pixel collects less information. Same is true comparing different size sensor. Smaller sensor collect less information compare to larger ones. As sensors become smaller they become compressed, making each pixel harder to see until it is blown up enlargement. As if one pixel seems to blend into the next one. As larger size pixels are more define as more information can be collected compared to smaller ones. Advantage having more pixels...,. Unless you want to make Hugh poster being larger than 20 x 30. None. Reason for having more pixel then is being able to crop and have adequate pixels needed for a great printout. Disadvantage ..... File size. Using any solfware to make changes to a large file will take longer to process. When it comes to the issue is ISO. Processing within that camera is the issues as well as programing. Hope the size of pixel is now better understood. The following photo has been cropped. The original photo is about twice the area before cropped. Taken with Nikon D810.

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Jun 11, 2015 17:48:12   #
Nightski
 
Karl, are you agreeing with Allen that when you stuff more pixels into the same size center it reduces High ISO performance?

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Jun 11, 2015 18:19:30   #
Karl Shuffler Loc: Weinert, Texas
 
The more pixels, the closer they are to each other as they can over heat which causes heating problems. Noise then is the issue. You have a choose in camera models. Better details in pictures or having higher ISO's; less noise. Reason pro models have around 24Mp compared to higher Mp. Prefer higher Mp because I want details as to no need for those ungodly never though of higher ISO's. No need to go higher than 36.3 Mp. (Nikon D810), because of the high file size causing more time needed for using any photo solfware. Another note also is how large of a print is one making. If there is no need for making large print..... Higher Mp cameras is an over kill. Therefore reason for higher Mp.for me is to be able to crop and doing so in the end still having details. As to compair to Canon's 5DS see www.blende7.at/images/canon/eos5ds5dsr/Sample%20Images/Beauty%203.jpg


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Jun 11, 2015 19:37:43   #
ThomasS Loc: Colorado
 
arch23 wrote:
Thank you. Either one is load to carry around your neck on a day trip.


It is amazing how much weight you can put up with when you are having fun. I just came back from the Colorado National Monument, where I was hiking around with a 5D Mark II and a 7D Mark II around my neck. I keep a 70-200L on the 7D and a 17-40L on the 5D. Hiking along cliff edges is no place to change lenses. I suppose I really need to get one of those Cotton Carrier vests, to hook my cameras to. It would balance the weight better.

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Jun 11, 2015 19:44:00   #
ThomasS Loc: Colorado
 
Nightski wrote:
The 7DII has GPS too. :-D I love the GPS feature! wow .. 10fps .. that's awesome. And I believe I can use my Sigma on it for a while. It's my understanding that EF lenses work on cropped sensors whereas EF-S lenses only work on cropped sensor Canons .. not full frame ones. I was careful to buy EF lenses when I had my Rebel XTI .. I knew I'd want a full frame someday.


It is hard to beat a 7D Mark II for any type of action shot and it is far better in low light than my 7D was. Try one and I think you will like it. Keep that 6D for landscapes or other still subjects.

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Jun 11, 2015 23:05:51   #
Nightski
 
Karl Shuffler wrote:
The more pixels, the closer they are to each other as they can over heat which causes heating problems. Noise then is the issue. You have a choose in camera models. Better details in pictures or having higher ISO's; less noise. Reason pro models have around 24Mp compared to higher Mp. Prefer higher Mp because I want details as to no need for those ungodly never though of higher ISO's. No need to go higher than 36.3 Mp. (Nikon D810), because of the high file size causing more time needed for using any photo solfware. Another note also is how large of a print is one making. If there is no need for making large print..... Higher Mp cameras is an over kill. Therefore reason for higher Mp.for me is to be able to crop and doing so in the end still having details. As to compair to Canon's 5DS see www.blende7.at/images/canon/eos5ds5dsr/Sample%20Images/Beauty%203.jpg
The more pixels, the closer they are to each other... (show quote)


I have not printed one of my photos yet. My mother has .. I was so pleased with it when she got it. It took me about a year and a half to get serious about post processing and now the next step will be printing. I think some experience in printing my images should be something I gain before deciding on a camera. I am really excited about the 7D III now. I am so glad I started this thread. I've learned a lot.

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Jun 11, 2015 23:07:23   #
Nightski
 
ThomasS wrote:
It is amazing how much weight you can put up with when you are having fun. I just came back from the Colorado National Monument, where I was hiking around with a 5D Mark II and a 7D Mark II around my neck. I keep a 70-200L on the 7D and a 17-40L on the 5D. Hiking along cliff edges is no place to change lenses. I suppose I really need to get one of those Cotton Carrier vests, to hook my cameras to. It would balance the weight better.


Isn't that the truth. It doesn't even seem like work when I am carrying my gear. I'm so excited about all the possibilities when I am out with it strapped to my back.

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Jun 12, 2015 05:12:56   #
Karl Shuffler Loc: Weinert, Texas
 
If your main objective is to shoot wildlife, look into Canon 7D Mark II. It's has a shooting of 10 fps. Having a crop sensor; giving you more focal length 1.6x., getting closer. At 20 Mp,pixels are not too small; collecting more information, great in low light. Resulting in having ISO range 100 - 16000.
For more information: m.dpreview.com/reviews/canon-eos-7d-mark-II B&H giving freebies with purchase.

Canon 6D 180/2.8 C/Y CARL Zeiss lens, no flash.

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Jun 12, 2015 07:01:47   #
Nightski
 
Karl Shuffler wrote:
If your main objective is to shoot wildlife, look into Canon 7D Mark II. It's has a shooting of 10 fps. Having a crop sensor; giving you more focal length 1.6x., getting closer. At 20 Mp,pixels are not too small; collecting more information, great in low light. Resulting in having ISO range 100 - 16000.
For more information: m.dpreview.com/reviews/canon-eos-7d-mark-II B&H giving freebies with purchase.

Canon 6D 180/2.8 C/Y CARL Zeiss lens, no flash.


Yes Kari ... I definitely will ... you have a 6D too? Beautiful image .. but then a Carl Zeiss lens? Nice. I bet you love it. :-)

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