Man as a woman
Apr 3, 2012 16:02:25 #
MsJ
Loc: Northern Indiana
Thank you, EW, for sharing this...I especially appreciate it because I wondered if almost everyone on this site was narrow minded. You proved that there are plenty who are not. I really would like to see this photo completed, too! Technique is so important...in all facets of photography, not just the camera. Thank you so much!!!!
Apr 3, 2012 16:06:29 #
You so very right about the photographic skill here! So often general people just don't seem to get that it is much more than taking nice little snaps........
Apr 3, 2012 16:09:56 #
Apr 3, 2012 16:15:05 #
NPR = National Public Radio, hated by everyone who is hardcore republican or whatever. Too... 'liberal'
Apr 3, 2012 16:16:45 #
jaedmund wrote:
I did not find the resulting picture but I found this...Thank you, EW, for sharing this...I especially appreciate it because I wondered if almost everyone on this site was narrow minded. You proved that there are plenty who are not. I really would like to see this photo completed, too! Technique is so important...in all facets of photography, not just the camera. Thank you so much!!!!
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/409001/ANDREJ-PEJIC-OUT-MAGAZINE.jpg
I do not see how his Adam apple was removed other than PP but again good photography.
Apr 3, 2012 16:35:39 #
Thanks Wolf. I got an awful lot to learn. With all you folks I may come out a little bit smart! At least, smaller on the "what is...." area!
Apr 3, 2012 16:39:54 #
I think the photographic skills are interesting.
Not sure why some of us had to comment about one's sexuality and the related political nonsense.
I would appreciate, for the future, that we all concentrate about photography and try to improve our skills in that field.
I, for one, do not care about your political affiliation and do not need any lecturing about such subject.
Not sure why some of us had to comment about one's sexuality and the related political nonsense.
I would appreciate, for the future, that we all concentrate about photography and try to improve our skills in that field.
I, for one, do not care about your political affiliation and do not need any lecturing about such subject.
Apr 3, 2012 16:45:05 #
MsJ
Loc: Northern Indiana
[quote=English_WolfI do not see how his Adam apple was removed other than PP but again good photography.[/quote]
I see even more importance in the way he was shown first...he looks more masculine in this one, don't you think. Even without an adam's apple. And...did you see an adam's apple? Maybe he doesn't really have one?
thanks, EW!
I don't know, the more I look at the second one the more I wonder if I would have thought about him being a man if we hadn't talked about it. He sort of has the Jackie Onasis look about him.
I see even more importance in the way he was shown first...he looks more masculine in this one, don't you think. Even without an adam's apple. And...did you see an adam's apple? Maybe he doesn't really have one?
thanks, EW!
I don't know, the more I look at the second one the more I wonder if I would have thought about him being a man if we hadn't talked about it. He sort of has the Jackie Onasis look about him.
Apr 3, 2012 16:45:45 #
English_Wolf wrote:
This is a NPR photography of a man. br br img ht... (show quote)
After looking at this picture, I now see what English Wolf was trying to teach us.
How a model can be posed, the arm and hand across the neck, the hair blowing in the wind, the make up. The sexless photo or rather how one sees the the photo and out take on the models sex.
I did learn something today and I'm sorry for the fast jab.
Thank you.
Apr 3, 2012 17:07:24 #
I understand your frustration, I to wish that the members would stick to photographic topics.
English_Wolf wrote:
This thread sadly confirms my opinion... Most UHH members cannot stick to photography and can only add their personal slant on everything.
No wonder I appear rude and undiplomatic. I 'show', 'speak about' photography, I get... I don't even know what.
No wonder I appear rude and undiplomatic. I 'show', 'speak about' photography, I get... I don't even know what.
Apr 3, 2012 17:09:26 #
He does look more masculine because we expect it and are looking for signs that makes him a man. I believe that this search for 'fault' is a natural way to try to reinstate order in our perception.
As to the PP, I think I see some of it in the veil going toward his Adam apple. everywhere but in that area, the veil limits and folds are well define by a white band but not there. Since there is a missing part/fold, I assume (perhaps wrongly) that is where the PP 'surgery' took place.
Another location where something is not quite right is under the chin.
I find the neck slant and the shoulder unnatural, Either due to posing or PP (or both).
Your opinions?
As to the PP, I think I see some of it in the veil going toward his Adam apple. everywhere but in that area, the veil limits and folds are well define by a white band but not there. Since there is a missing part/fold, I assume (perhaps wrongly) that is where the PP 'surgery' took place.
Another location where something is not quite right is under the chin.
I find the neck slant and the shoulder unnatural, Either due to posing or PP (or both).
Your opinions?
Apr 3, 2012 17:22:04 #
Apr 3, 2012 17:28:33 #
This whole argument suddenly reminded me of a bachelor party for my best friend (about 100 years ago). We went into the city and at one point were in a bar with boys dressed as girls. I didn't realize it until later! Now we have men posing as female models. If they can make money doing that, let them. They're simply using their talent; another form of acting. But can't we stick to photography?
Apr 3, 2012 17:38:18 #
English_Wolf wrote:
It looks like the neck in the back is too thick going into the shoulder area. I only say this because you pointed out that particular area, otherwise I would not have noticed. Great makeup artist and photographer. I wonder if he works with one certain photographer or does many different shoots, I would guess the later but would be nice to know......He does look more masculine because we expect it a... (show quote)
Apr 3, 2012 18:12:18 #
Had I not followed this I would have just looked at the photo EW put up and think 'blonde model' then moved on. Now I'll be looking at photos of 'women' in magazines and wondering. The second photo I would have looked at thinking the eyebrows needed tweezing. I will be interested in looking at the link EW posted on posing as this is one of my problems. That having been said, I saw an interview with Brazil's top 'female' model who happens to be male and the son of one of that country's soccer hero's. He/she was planning the final surgery for total transformation. ouch!
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