Lightroom 4 (Page 3): I'm surprised Adobe didn't tell us about all the problems. They're usually eager to communicate.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

GDRoth wrote:

What about all the "problems" with LR4 that are being discussed all over the place?

I'm surprised Adobe didn't tell us about all the problems. They're usually eager to communicate.

mainshipper Loc: Hernando, Florida

jerryc41 wrote:

GDRoth wrote:

What about all the "problems" with LR4 that are being discussed all over the place?

I'm surprised Adobe didn't tell us about all the problems. They're usually eager to communicate.

I don't think it was a problem with the Beta.

mainshipper Loc: Hernando, Florida

rambler wrote:

If I upgrade from LR 3 to LR 4, doesn't it do just that? Change LR 3 to LR 4? Why would LR 3 still be there?

Someone asked where?

https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/tdrc/index.cfm?product=photoshop_lightroom&trackingid=JQRUC

That's the way Adobe products install. No overlays.

Bozsik Loc: Orangevale, California

I upgraded to 4 when it first came out. No issues yet. I have a PC, so I don't have worry about all of the Mac proprietary problems and issues. It was an easy install.

JoeM Loc: Sacramento, California

I've purchased LR4 also but afraid to install it until I get some knowledge about how to organize the files, which I believe is a big reason for getting LR4. Isn't it???? Looking for documentation for it now. Any suggestions? All I got was the Cd.

dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma

JoeM wrote:

I've purchased LR4 also but afraid to install it until I get some knowledge about how to organize the files, which I believe is a big reason for getting LR4. Isn't it???? Looking for documentation for it now. Any suggestions? All I got was the Cd.

when i loaded 4 all my files are listed just as they are on computer.
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=importing+files+into+lightroom+4+tutorials&oq=importing+files+into+lightroom+4+tutorials&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=12&gs_upl=5012l29653l0l32836l32l32l0l0l0l0l163l3857l0.32l32l0

Bozsik Loc: Orangevale, California

JoeM wrote:

I've purchased LR4 also but afraid to install it until I get some knowledge about how to organize the files, which I believe is a big reason for getting LR4. Isn't it???? Looking for documentation for it now. Any suggestions? All I got was the Cd.

Good idea. You can still install the program and get the feel of the interface. The only three things I wish they hadn't done/left out was one: In order to work on images in LR you have to import them into LR first and place them in a catalog. I have another program ACDSEE that I can browse my drives for any image, illustration or photo. Two: You can't import an image from a scanner like most other programs will do. Photoshop doesn't allow this either. I will never figure that one out. And three: You can't burn images to a disk, which my other program allows.

As far as the editing features, they are very good and even more improved noise reduction and sharpening tools and brushes than before.

I would purchase a separate drive to store the images. As LR does it's imports. It will back up your image catalogs for you when you close each session.

dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma

In order to work on images in LR you have to import them into LR first and place them in a catalog.

thats the only bum thing about it

Bozsik Loc: Orangevale, California

dirtpusher wrote:

In order to work on images in LR you have to import them into LR first and place them in a catalog.

thats the only bum thing about it

I know. It's an Adobe thing. It gets encoded with their proprietary metadata tag when you work on it. Pain in the A$$, but they are like Apple when it comes to working with the rest of the world. It is a very good program, it just doesn't utilize the full benefit of the user's computer. You have to make a whole new storage area. The other thing to be aware of is that it only backs up the catalog data, and not the images. Make sure to back up both the image drive and the catalogs.

tulsimm

$.02
I find only pluses in 4. Simple and easy way to download from your SD or camera and written in the location you point it to. You can have it automatically backup to a second location. On the Images, you have a choice of discarding them day, week, month or never. Along with your Catalogue setup you can set up you colledtions. When you inport do so in DNG format. not only get all the data there is but it is compressed. The ability to Globally make changes. Use presets to bring the files in. Touch up if needed globally or single. All without destroying the original file. And you have a problem doing what? For $100 or $79, what a value. It is also intuitive and support does take a school. Between AdobeTV and the Instructional/education videos on YouTube, you can find a solution. You might even look to Adobe for help. That is what the "HELL" button's for.

By the way PCs and platforms are the issue 99% of the time you have problems. Under Powered, 1 CPU, vidoe card with a 1/4GB and 1GB should be the min.

rpavich Loc: West Virginia

GDRoth wrote:

What about all the "problems" with LR4 that are being discussed all over the place?

I have LR4 at home in the box but am worried about installing because everything I've read says to wait until 4.1 while Adobe gets the bugs out.........

If you go by what you read on internet forums you'd NEVER install any software! :)

There is no harm installing V4...one major bug that I see is the import bug and it didn't affect me in the slightest.

I've had one crash since installing it....otherwise it's been behaving just like v3.

rpavich Loc: West Virginia

JoeM wrote:

I've purchased LR4 also but afraid to install it until I get some knowledge about how to organize the files, which I believe is a big reason for getting LR4. Isn't it???? Looking for documentation for it now. Any suggestions? All I got was the Cd.

The big draw for a piece of software like this is that you don't NEED to have knowledge on how to organize files.

Here is what happens:

you install the program and you import your files in one of 3 ways:

1.) You leave them where they are and L4 takes note of them in it's database right where they are.

2.) You make a copy of the files.

3.) You move the files to your new location.

it's painless and makes a lot of sense.

One tip that I always use is to NOT allow L4 to make a subfolder by date. I've seen others who like this feature but I don't. Putting all of the files in one spot is fine with me.

rpavich Loc: West Virginia

Bozsik wrote:

quote=dirtpusher In order to work on images in LR... (show quote)

No you don't. You can leave the files right where they are.

What you are describing is just the nature of databases and not "an Adobe thing" at all....

rpavich Loc: West Virginia

Bozsik wrote:

Good idea. You can still install the program and get the feel of the interface. The only three things I wish they hadn't done/left out was one: In order to work on images in LR you have to import them into LR first and place them in a catalog.

So?

Bozsik wrote:

And three: You can't burn images to a disk, which my other program allows.

sure you can. Export to CD

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As far as the editing features, they are very good and even more improved noise reduction and sharpening tools and brushes than before.

Agreed there.

russelray Loc: La Mesa CA

Bozsik wrote:

In order to work on images in LR you have to import them into LR first and place them in a catalog.

You have to import them but you don't have to place them in a catalog in order to work on them.