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Feb 6, 2015 16:39:58   #
Davethehiker Loc: South West Pennsylvania
 
Dngallagher wrote:
They must be counting on lots and lots of subscriptions to icloud storage.


Hummm.... Maybe that that's it, and I hope it works for them. I doubt I'll subscribe because my Internet service is so slow and Intermittent where I live. Maybe it will improve in the future and I will change my mind. I also understand that if you have a Flickr account (Which I do), you can use that as an alternative to an iCloud link. This is going to be interesting.

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Feb 6, 2015 16:43:13   #
Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.
 
Davethehiker wrote:
Hummm.... Maybe that that's it, and I hope it works for them. I doubt I'll subscribe because my Internet service is so slow and Intermittent where I live. Maybe it will improve in the future and I will change my mind. I also understand that you have a Flicker account, you can use that as an alternative to an iCloud link. This is going to be interesting.


I read that about the flickr account as well.... I am pretty satisfied with my publishing to flickr through Lightroom right now and am not real concerned with viewing all my images on all my devices, at least not at this point.

BUT yes, it will be interesting.

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Feb 7, 2015 13:20:58   #
shieldsadvert
 
Excellent observations, thanks. I am a long time Aperture user and am not good at filing, so I'll take your advice and keep what I have until Aperture dies.

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Feb 7, 2015 14:22:21   #
BobSgt Loc: Oceanside, CA
 
Dave. I have been a mac user since the early 80s. My experience with apple software products is that the more you like the application the more likely apple will discontinue supporting it. They are a hardware environment company. Not a PP company like Adobe, onOne etc. cut your losses, lick your wounds and move on

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Feb 7, 2015 14:44:56   #
Stevewayne23 Loc: Sacramento, CA
 
I haven't found anything on whether Aperture will still be able to open the Photos library, like it does with iPhoto. Anyone know the answer to that?

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Feb 7, 2015 20:27:45   #
Davethehiker Loc: South West Pennsylvania
 
The more I think about Apples upcoming Photos program the more I think I'll like it. It's being said that "Photos will be better at cataloging photographs but currently not a substitute for Aperture." What does mean? I take it to mean that it not as good as Aperture for manipulating photos. Over the years I have grown away from altering my my photos with Aperture. I do most of the work starting with the RAW file with DxO Optics Pro. I then add the final touches with PhotoShop and Nik filters from within PS. I then send the final images back to Aperture for storage. I really stopped using most of Aperture's tools years ago because I found others that work better for me.

I see no reason I can't continue this work flow moved over to Picture. I'll know more in April.

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Feb 7, 2015 20:43:14   #
LarJgrip Loc: The Fraser Valley
 
Davethehiker wrote:
This sounds promising in the long run. I think?

I bought LR but was intimidated and never migrated over from Aperture because it still worked for me. Maybe my procrastination is about to payoff?

http://gadgets.ndtv.com/apps/news/apple-release-developer-preview-of-photos-the-iphoto-replacement-for-os-x-657883


As I understand it, Lr has an iOS app as well but you need to purchase Lr before you can get the app. Then you can use Lr across all your iOS devices. I will be receiving my first Mac this coming week so I have no personal experience with any of this (Lr or iMac)

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Feb 7, 2015 21:01:01   #
Davethehiker Loc: South West Pennsylvania
 
As with everything else regarding advancements in photography, applications, and the most advanced cameras, leap frog over each other. Capitalism at work.

LarJgrip, you have many option available to you. Congratulations on your upcoming Mac. I suspect you will love it.

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Feb 7, 2015 22:32:20   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Stevewayne23 wrote:
I haven't found anything on whether Aperture will still be able to open the Photos library, like it does with iPhoto. Anyone know the answer to that?


You import the existing library into photos then:

"After you first run Photos, when you edit, add, or delete any pictures, those changes show up only in the one program you’re using at the time. New pictures you add to Photos appear only in Photos; new pictures you add to iPhoto appear only in iPhoto, and so on. (You can easily export/import them if necessary.) Same thing with edits you make: They’re saved only in the program where you make those changes."

Source: https://www.yahoo.com/tech/everything-worth-knowing-about-switching-to-os-x-110129491789.html

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Feb 7, 2015 22:37:20   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Davethehiker wrote:
The more I think about Apples upcoming Photos program the more I think I'll like it. It's being said that "Photos will be better at cataloging photographs but currently not a substitute for Aperture." What does mean? I take it to mean that it not as good as Aperture for manipulating photos. Over the years I have grown away from altering my my photos with Aperture. I do most of the work starting with the RAW file with DxO Optics Pro. I then add the final touches with PhotoShop and Nik filters from within PS. I then send the final images back to Aperture for storage. I really stopped using most of Aperture's tools years ago because I found others that work better for me.

I see no reason I can't continue this work flow moved over to Picture. I'll know more in April.
The more I think about Apples upcoming Photos prog... (show quote)


I think you ought to wrangle a developer copy of Photos beta and evaluate it and help out with defining the final product. Apple will want your input.

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Feb 8, 2015 08:49:54   #
Davethehiker Loc: South West Pennsylvania
 
JD750 wrote:
I think you ought to wrangle a developer copy of Photos beta and evaluate it and help out with defining the final product. Apple will want your input.


That's a tempting thought. A long time ago back when I was developing my own software for use on early Personal Computers, I did participate as a beta tester. Does anyone remember "dBASE II"? This was before IBM and Microsoft went GUI. Yes, prior to "Windows." I was working for IBM back then, and did some moonlighting writing custom SW for a large law firm. I recently spoke to the head secretary at that firm and was told that they still have an old DOS PC dedicated solely to running that program for them :!: I explained that I no longer have those software developer skills and suggested that they go to a local collage and hire a NERD to migrate that database over to a more modern computer. I'm amazed that that the old hard drive in that computer has not crashed yet, destroying that old database! I don't know if they perform any kinds of backups? I should give them a call and remind them how exposed they are.

Apple's Pictures is only a couple of months away from release. I'm confident Apple does not need my help to get this right. :-)

BTW after over 35 years working at IBM as both a direct employee and later as a consultant, I retired completely and bought a MacBook Pro for my photography work and never looked back at PCs.

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Feb 8, 2015 10:24:21   #
Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.
 
Davethehiker wrote:
That's a tempting thought. A long time ago back when I was developing my own software for use on early Personal Computers, I did participate as a beta tester. Does anyone remember "dBASE II"? This was before IBM and Microsoft went GUI. Yes, prior to "Windows." I was working for IBM back then, and did some moonlighting writing custom SW for a large law firm. I recently spoke to the head secretary at that firm and was told that they still have an old DOS PC dedicated solely to running that program for them :!: I explained that I no longer have those software developer skills and suggested that they go to a local collage and hire a NERD to migrate that database over to a more modern computer. I'm amazed that that the old hard drive in that computer has not crashed yet, destroying that old database! I don't know if they perform any kinds of backups? I should give them a call and remind them how exposed they are.

Apple's Pictures is only a couple of months away from release. I'm confident Apple does not need my help to get this right. :-)

BTW after over 35 years working at IBM as both a direct employee and later as a consultant, I retired completely and bought a MacBook Pro for my photography work and never looked back at PCs.
That's a tempting thought. A long time ago back wh... (show quote)



:thumbup:

dBASE II was little before my time in computers, but I did start my career with dBASE III+, actually Foxbase at the time.

Then moved to clipper to compile the code. Those were the days!

Funny thing, I still have a DOS VM and clipper working on my Mac along with some of my old code that I play with every now and then, but like you I lost so much of my coding skills over the decades.

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Feb 8, 2015 10:38:11   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Davethehiker wrote:
That's a tempting thought. A long time ago back when I was developing my own software for use on early Personal Computers, I did participate as a beta tester. Does anyone remember "dBASE II"? This was before IBM and Microsoft went GUI. Yes, prior to "Windows." I was working for IBM back then, and did some moonlighting writing custom SW for a large law firm. I recently spoke to the head secretary at that firm and was told that they still have an old DOS PC dedicated solely to running that program for them :!: I explained that I no longer have those software developer skills and suggested that they go to a local collage and hire a NERD to migrate that database over to a more modern computer. I'm amazed that that the old hard drive in that computer has not crashed yet, destroying that old database! I don't know if they perform any kinds of backups? I should give them a call and remind them how exposed they are.

Apple's Pictures is only a couple of months away from release. I'm confident Apple does not need my help to get this right. :-)

BTW after over 35 years working at IBM as both a direct employee and later as a consultant, I retired completely and bought a MacBook Pro for my photography work and never looked back at PCs.
That's a tempting thought. A long time ago back wh... (show quote)


FYI - They often make changes between the developer release and the final release.

I remember the time before DOS as well. I even remember, god forbid, punch cards.

Interesting about the DOS computer customer. I believe you can take it as a matter of faith they have been updating that computer hardware along the way. I have a friend who is a consultant and he still uses and old DOS program to generate some of the files he needs for clients. He has a dedicated DOS laptop, has replaced that computer several times. New laptop PCs are something like $500 on sale and new software $15K plus the lost productivity learning it, and the hassles of upkeep. The old DOS program does the job and is the most cost efficient solution and that's what matters.

I switched over to Apple circa 2005 and I am quite happy with Apple. However if I was a pro I would not trust my livelihood in Apple software.

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Feb 8, 2015 10:46:02   #
Davethehiker Loc: South West Pennsylvania
 
Dngallagher wrote:
:thumbup:

dBASE II was little before my time in computers, but I did start my career with dBASE III+, actually Foxbase at the time.

Then moved to clipper to compile the code. Those were the days!

Funny thing, I still have a DOS VM and clipper working on my Mac along with some of my old code that I play with every now and then, but like you I lost so much of my coding skills over the decades.


Ah yes, Clipper! I had forgotten the name of that great old program. Clipper was a super-set of dBASE III and that's what I used to write the program I mentioned that is still running on a dusty old DOS computer somewhere in that law office. I wonder if that old program will still be running long after I dead and gone. (A form of immortality.)

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Feb 8, 2015 10:50:15   #
Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.
 
Davethehiker wrote:
Ah yes, Clipper! I had forgotten the name of that great old program. Clipper was a super-set of dBASE III and that's what I used to write the program I mentioned that is still running on a dusty old DOS computer somewhere in that law office. I wonder if that old program will still be running long after I dead and gone.


Kool.... As long as the hardware keeps working I would bet the code will.

Now, if it was windows based I would say it is already on borrowed time ;)

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