Davethehiker Loc: South West Pennsylvania

This sounds promising in the long run. I think?

I bought LR but was intimidated and never migrated over from Aperture because it still worked for me. Maybe my procrastination is about to payoff?

http://gadgets.ndtv.com/apps/news/apple-release-developer-preview-of-photos-the-iphoto-replacement-for-os-x-657883

Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.

Don't know what PHOTOS will end up being like, but I went from Aperture to lightroom myself - found it very easy as I used a managed library in Aperture, so that fit perfectly with Lightroom's use of a catalog.

I suspect that Photos will be a step down from Aperture, with an emphasis on storing images on ICLOUD, but that remains to be seen yet.

I know that I can say that my Post Processing has evolved greatly since moving to Lightroom and I believe that my raw images look much better much faster with Adobe Camera Raw as the developing engine .

I will admit my first trial of Lightroom had me befuddled - but that was when I was using IPHOTO and had not made the move to Aperture a long time ago.

Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.

I held off moving to another program. I'm looking forward to seeing Photos in the "flesh". It looks good. Thanks for sharing.

Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.

Since it is a freebee I will get a look at it myself, hopefully there are options to NOT store everything on ICLOUD, just can't see keeping a raw library of images on ICLOUD and expecting fast operation, but it never hurts to look ;)

Davethehiker Loc: South West Pennsylvania

From what I read it will be an "evolving and growing" system. It will start off being like iPhoto but morph into a more Aperture like program as features are added. The iCloud nature has me worried. I keep all my photos on a dedicated HD that is backed up in the background via Time Machine.

Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.

I agree - time will tell - at least it will be free to download and install. Be worth a look, or to use as another tool possibly.

JD750 Loc: SoCal

Dave, I used Aperture from day one and I was very happy with it. It was groundbreaking when introduced. It is a far better DAM (digital asset management) program than LR ever will be, and I had plug-ins for Aperture for stitching, lens correction, special effects. Life was good.

Then the earthquake hit. Aperture announced the discontinuation of Aperture support. Apple no longer wanted the professional & pro-sumer photographers as customers.

Apple is not a software application company, they will occasionally write an application if they identify a solution that is unique and it is something not available but in the long run, they are a hardware company. Apple's track record is they invent something unique then allow software companies to take over when those companies offer competitive applications.

Photos target market is the iOS social media average Jane crowd. Soccer mom's sharing photos of little Jimmy with dad at work. Photos has the look and structure of iOS, it is intended to help sell iOS devices and it is not a functional replacement for Aperture. (I fear that managers at Apple have a misguided idea that if they make the Mac experience more like iOS, buy removing features and simplifying the software, then iOS users will buy more Macs.)

Photos may be useful in some way but it would be a great surprise if it had the professional features of Aperture. We don't really know because it's already been a year, and they're just getting around to a developers release. But per the article you sited, the developer release confirms everything I just said.

Adobe on the other hand extended a welcome to Aperture users and re-iterated their commitment to photoghraphers. Adobe followed up that commitment with an Aperture to LR migration tool. Seems like Adobe wants me as a customer.

As far as being intimidated, both learning LR and the ideas of migrating a library are seemingly big tasks. Let me address those two issues.

LR has a learning curve but it is more Aperture-like than any of the other programs that I have tested. The big difference is LR uses a referenced library, it is not as powerful at DAM as Aperture. So the user has to organize the image-library on the disk. I recommend you view "Up and Running With LR 5 by Jan Kabili". Open LR and do the exercises along with her. When your done with that, you will have a good understanding of how to get around in LR.

As far as the migration, who says you have to migrate? Most of those photos have already been edited right? So what's the point? You can start fresh using LR with new images, and keep using Aperture to print/share the old images, and migrate your old library to Photos when Aperture finally quits working (sometime in the future). Also you could keep you OS at the current state and Aperture will keep woking much longer. The possibilities are endless (to quote Apple), that is until Apple discontinues Photos in 10 years.

Just saying....

Davethehiker Loc: South West Pennsylvania

I wonder if the Plug-ins like Nik filters will still work? As long as the let me make round trips to PhotoShop, I'll be Okay.

Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.

Ooohhh round trip to Photoshop... you might want to read here and see the whats missing part....at least right now.

http://www.yahoo.com/tech/photos-for-the-mac-is-clean-fast-connected-and-110170322774.html

Davethehiker Loc: South West Pennsylvania

Great link! Thank you. I'm taking a wait and see attitude. BTW, I'm also a DxO Optic Pro user and make a lot of trips from DxO between DxO/PS/Aperture. It gets a bit clumsy, hopefully that will be improved.

JD750 Loc: SoCal

That's a good article!

So to summarize what's missing


**Quote**:
(source: https://www.yahoo.com/tech/photos-for-the-mac-is-clean-fast-connected-and-110170322774.html):

As noted in my companion story, moving to Photos 1.0 means giving up some familiar features, too.

From iPhoto, you’ll miss these:

Flags
Star ratings
Events
Round-trip editing in another app (like Photoshop)
Sort album by keyword, title, rating

And these Aperture features (among others) are missing:

Flags, star ratings, color labels
Projects
Merge/split libraries
Split view
Loupe
Camera tethering
Stacks
Brushable adjustments
Adjustment resets
Curves
Metadata batch adjustments

**Unquote**

JD750 Loc: SoCal

"Apple intends to move Mac fans from iPhoto to Photos in much the same way it moved from Final Cut Pro to Final Cut Pro X. At first, it will offer a very basic, clean, 1.0 version that’s missing many advanced features of its predecessor"
Source:
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/everything-worth-knowing-about-switching-to-os-x-110129491789.html

I thought Apple learned their lesson on the "FCP fiasco". Apple lost a lot of customers over that. My buddies the film business tell me that the pros abandoned FCP when Final Cut Pro X came out. "Nobody uses Apple FCP anymore", so I'm told.

Davethehiker Loc: South West Pennsylvania

It seems no one likes change. (Except those who find it between the cushions on the couch.)

However, it's inevitable.

Davethehiker Loc: South West Pennsylvania

I just read that it will interface with DxO. Yaaaaa!

How is Apple going to make money with this, if they stop development of Aperture AND give "Photos" away free with the next free OS upgrade?!? :?: :?

I guess I just don't understand high finance :shock:

Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.

They must be counting on lots and lots of subscriptions to icloud storage.