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Mar 9, 2012 17:52:00   #
docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado
 
lucky you! Great challenges

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Mar 9, 2012 20:11:36   #
CAM1017 Loc: Chiloquin, Oregon
 
mooseeyes wrote:
sygilligan wrote:
I am new to photography. I go out almost daily and practice. These photos are from yesterday, bright and sunny. I only know how to do minor adjustments in Photoshop, just purchased the software.

What would improve these photos compositionally? Do you like the colors? Brightness? Contrast?

Thanks!
Sharon


Sharon,

Two words that you say above leads me to post here: "BRIGHT and SUNNY". Everytime I see an outdoor image the has lots of contrast (hot spots and shadows), I immediately want to know what time of day the image was taken? You mentioned later in this tread, that the area of these shots is very near to you, that you go to often. In fact, I recall you saying that you often will spend HOURS there just looking at the rocks, etc.

Sometimes, new photographers need a bit of direction in this area. First of all, it goes without saying that the human eye, film and a digital sensor all see and process differently. With this in mind, you may not be able to control every aspect of a shot, at a particular time; however, you can determine the time. Let me share with you the "Dr. Pepper Rule".

Never heard of the "Dr. Pepper Rule"? Bet you have. But, it has not really locked into your head as being such a key factor to outdoor photography. One of Dr. Pepper's ad slogans (and older logos) involved the "10, 2 and 4" time sequence (and clock face). Their pitch was to have a Dr. Pepper at these three times during the day. Well, this is just an easy basic guide for outdoor photography lighting and contrast.

Do your shooting before 10 am; never shoot at 2 pm; and, don't start shooting again until after 4 pm. Not necessarily the clock times, it's the sun times. As a general rule, your best natural light is going to be before 10 am, and after 4 pm. Shooting between these two times can often give to you a very difficult light/contrast problem that your eye may process; however, film and a digital sensor will not. Yes, there are exceptions to this. Weather can play a part; e.g., overcast, rain, fog, etc. Or an outdoor subject that is in covered shade due to some natural or man-made structure that puts the subject in an even light without high contrast light and shadow.

I think if you begin to follow my Dr. Pepper Rule when you venture out to practice your outdoor shooting. . .you will see a real difference in your exposures. This guideline is geared to getting the shot right in the camera right from the moment you press the shutter release.

For me, the most important question that needs to be answered about an outdoor photography shot is "at what sun time did you take the image?"
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Your story took me back many years to the film days. Kodak always said on there info sheets that came with its film to only take outside shots between 10 & 2 when the sun was high it the sky. It makes me laugh every time I think about it. Maybe this the reason they are going down the tube.

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Mar 10, 2012 09:34:09   #
sygilligan Loc: Lititz, Pa
 
So listening to all of you has been invaluable. My first goal was to master the camera. I've never used manual mode before i always used auto. So the past year has been about learning what Fstops and shutter speeds and focal lengths etc to use while also getting good exposed images. While there is always more to learn on this, I no longer feel overwhelmed by those basics. Now I am going to sit back and think about composition. What story do I want to tell? What did I see that drew my eye in and therefore what do I want others to see and feel. Sometimes its texture, sometimes lines, sometimes emotion, sometimes color sometimes a mix of these things. I think the mix is what causes the clutter - what should I leave out to make an interesting photo. HA - I want to include it all. I like that, I like this, oooooh that's cool. ETC. ha I am laughing at myself as I write this. I use the boring rocks picture as an example - the shape and color drew me in. Now how do I show that in an interesting way? HMMM something to ponder.

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Mar 10, 2012 11:29:34   #
CAM1017 Loc: Chiloquin, Oregon
 
sygilligan wrote:
So listening to all of you has been invaluable. My first goal was to master the camera. I've never used manual mode before i always used auto. So the past year has been about learning what Fstops and shutter speeds and focal lengths etc to use while also getting good exposed images. While there is always more to learn on this, I no longer feel overwhelmed by those basics. Now I am going to sit back and think about composition. What story do I want to tell? What did I see that drew my eye in and therefore what do I want others to see and feel. Sometimes its texture, sometimes lines, sometimes emotion, sometimes color sometimes a mix of these things. I think the mix is what causes the clutter - what should I leave out to make an interesting photo. HA - I want to include it all. I like that, I like this, oooooh that's cool. ETC. ha I am laughing at myself as I write this. I use the boring rocks picture as an example - the shape and color drew me in. Now how do I show that in an interesting way? HMMM something to ponder.
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You are on the right track! you have a great future in photography. look forward to future posts.

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Mar 11, 2012 11:42:31   #
jackndaback Loc: Florida
 
sygilligan wrote:
So listening to all of you has been invaluable. My first goal was to master the camera. I've never used manual mode before i always used auto. So the past year has been about learning what Fstops and shutter speeds and focal lengths etc to use while also getting good exposed images. While there is always more to learn on this, I no longer feel overwhelmed by those basics. Now I am going to sit back and think about composition. What story do I want to tell? What did I see that drew my eye in and therefore what do I want others to see and feel. Sometimes its texture, sometimes lines, sometimes emotion, sometimes color sometimes a mix of these things. I think the mix is what causes the clutter - what should I leave out to make an interesting photo. HA - I want to include it all. I like that, I like this, oooooh that's cool. ETC. ha I am laughing at myself as I write this. I use the boring rocks picture as an example - the shape and color drew me in. Now how do I show that in an interesting way? HMMM something to ponder.
So listening to all of you has been invaluable. My... (show quote)


You are a prefect example of a dedicated student of photography. I'm impressed with your approach to UHH posts. I think I will model myself after you and hope to see your future posts. It is refreshing to see young people so intent on learning. I wish I had gained these traits 50 years ago and moved forward as you will do.

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Mar 11, 2012 14:14:29   #
sygilligan Loc: Lititz, Pa
 
Thanks for the kind words! I went back up to my rocks today to see what drew me in, what is the reason i love those rocks. So many others do too, families were climbing on them when I was there. I walked all around them, touched them. I didn't lick them so no worries ha. Got on top of the tallest one. Color, texture and shape but need to ponder further. May go back this evening to gander some more.

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Mar 12, 2012 11:47:15   #
jthomas Loc: Lancaster, PA
 
Looking again at your 3rd rock pic - it looks like there might be a large enough cavity there to crawl back into and if so, what would be the scene looking out and including the circular border of the boulders? Pre-set your exposure to the rocks so the outside light doesn't darken them down too much and you don't lose their detail.

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Mar 12, 2012 16:50:28   #
sygilligan Loc: Lititz, Pa
 
ok, will give it a shot...so to speak. Not sure if it is big enough. I kind of think not but will take a look.

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Mar 15, 2012 14:56:03   #
dzs1945 Loc: Lancaster, Pa
 
[quote=sygilligan]Thank you. I spend hours and hours at this location. It's five minutes from my house. I hike there and hang out and sit on rocks frequently.

I would like to know where that is.

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Mar 15, 2012 16:06:02   #
sygilligan Loc: Lititz, Pa
 
Oh that's Pumping Station. Do you recall where the lady died during the flash floods? And several more stranded motorists were rescued due to Hammer Creek overflowing the bridge on 322? Right past that bridge on 322 is Pumping Station Road - turn in to the parking lot. It is also very close to Speedwell Forge if you are familiar with that location.

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