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Nov 25, 2014 23:57:10   #
n3eg Loc: West coast USA
 
Mogul wrote:
I like to maintain a list of cameras, primarily DSLRs that do NOT have video capabilities, but I haven't updated the list since 10/2013. I would appreciate any additions or corrections to this list. Thank you.

Canon 5D
Canon 5D Mark I
Canon 50D

Nikon D3
Nikon D70
Nikon D80
Nikon D200
Nikon D300
Nikon D700
Nikon D3000

Panasonic Lumix G1

Sony through at least A300
Sony A850 & A900


List of cameras that do have video: EVERYTHING ELSE.

I don't understand why someone who uses a large sensor and expensive glass for stills would want to use a 1/3" sensor and a fixed zoom for video.

And yes, I reassigned my red dot button for stills, but it still works in video mode.

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Nov 26, 2014 00:57:25   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Mogul wrote:
I like to maintain a list of cameras, primarily DSLRs that do NOT have video capabilities, but I haven't updated the list since 10/2013. I would appreciate any additions or corrections to this list. Thank you.

Canon 5D
Canon 5D Mark I
Canon 50D

Nikon D3
Nikon D70
Nikon D80
Nikon D200
Nikon D300
Nikon D700
Nikon D3000

Panasonic Lumix G1

Sony through at least A300
Sony A850 & A900


And you are doing this for what reason?

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Nov 26, 2014 01:07:06   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
ballsafire wrote:
If I wanted video I'd get a CAMCORDER - I still don't knpw why video is stuck on a regular camera - just to make things much more complicated to understand. I don't need a swiss knife either - that's just my decision. Soon I suspect there will be a fan to cool you off during hot weather - :roll: :roll:


Your logic about the fan escapes me. Unlike a fan, there is a very close relationship between stills photography and video.l. Taking stills on a dslr is much more complicated than shooting video. Swiss army knives ate incredible tools I've owned many models over the years. I always keep the top of the line Champion model in both my glove box and my attaché.

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Nov 26, 2014 01:10:02   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
mwsilvers wrote:
And you are doing this for what reason?

Like many others, I do not like most multi-purpose tools. I don't like bags that have zippers to make them bigger. I don't use a hatchet as a hammer, and I won't use an adjustable face club for golf. I don't like cameras that do things beside take pictures; if I want videos, I'll get a video recorder. I like to keep my list narrowed down. When I get ready to buy my next camera, I'd like to have a comprehensive list of cameras that do not have the added burden of a video system.

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Nov 26, 2014 06:24:19   #
bull drink water Loc: pontiac mi.
 
I recently picked up a p&s and two bridge ameras with video, I didn't go after that feature, but since it's there, it behoves me to learn how to use it.

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Nov 26, 2014 06:45:42   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
Mogul wrote:
Like many others, I do not like most multi-purpose tools. I don't like bags that have zippers to make them bigger. I don't use a hatchet as a hammer, and I won't use an adjustable face club for golf. I don't like cameras that do things beside take pictures; if I want videos, I'll get a video recorder. I like to keep my list narrowed down. When I get ready to buy my next camera, I'd like to have a comprehensive list of cameras that do not have the added burden of a video system.


Your choice, obviously. To me it's no burden. Just lines of code in the software. Something I will never see and something that makes no difference in the performance of the camera. Five of my last six cameras claimed to be capable of taking video. Couldn't prove it by me. I never used the feature on any of them. It's a pretty safe bet that whatever camera or cameras you have that there are features you don't use and never will use. Why limit yourself in what you buy simply because of another unused feature? Look around at all the products with computer chips in them, which is an ever growing list, and see how many have features you will never use. If things like that bother you then you must have a very short list of things you will buy. I share your dislike of tools that are compromised by a multi-function design, but that is not the case in cameras, or most other electronics.

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Nov 26, 2014 11:39:49   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Mogul wrote:
Like many others, I do not like most multi-purpose tools. I don't like bags that have zippers to make them bigger. I don't use a hatchet as a hammer, and I won't use an adjustable face club for golf. I don't like cameras that do things beside take pictures; if I want videos, I'll get a video recorder. I like to keep my list narrowed down. When I get ready to buy my next camera, I'd like to have a comprehensive list of cameras that do not have the added burden of a video system.

Video is not really a burden. Just don't turn it on and you'll never know it's there. Why don't you have an issue with wifi and gps features as well? They too have nothing directly to do with taking pictures, and if you leave them on they can drain your battery in no time. Now THAT would be a burden. It sounds like you're a purist who doesn't want anything to get in the way of just taking pictures. That's a perfectly understandable point of view. But besides video, (and GPS and Wifi), modern dslrs also have all sorts of extraneous in camera processing features like cropping, HDR, special effects, etc. It turns your camera into a lightweight post processing tool. I suspect the trend will not stop and if none of these newer cameras will be acceptable to you, you will likely find yourself using increasingly aging digital technology. If you really don't like to use multifunction tools, perhaps you should give up on dslrs altogether and get yourself a nice large format view camera.instead.

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Nov 26, 2014 11:57:18   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
LFingar wrote:
Your choice, obviously. To me it's no burden. Just lines of code in the software. Something I will never see and something that makes no difference in the performance of the camera. Five of my last six cameras claimed to be capable of taking video. Couldn't prove it by me. I never used the feature on any of them. It's a pretty safe bet that whatever camera or cameras you have that there are features you don't use and never will use. Why limit yourself in what you buy simply because of another unused feature? Look around at all the products with computer chips in them, which is an ever growing list, and see how many have features you will never use. If things like that bother you then you must have a very short list of things you will buy. I share your dislike of tools that are compromised by a multi-function design, but that is not the case in cameras, or most other electronics.
Your choice, obviously. To me it's no burden. Just... (show quote)


I primarily bought and use my cameras for stills. However over the last several years I have used their video features extensively to create high quality videos of various concerts and shows in which my professional musician son has performed. For me it was an unexpected and unplanned for benefit. The only addition expense was a RODE Stereo VideoMic Pro. But other than the fact that I use the video feature, and you do not, I am in agreement with everything else you posted.

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Nov 26, 2014 22:27:21   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
To those who have pointed out that video has not been a factor in the purchase and/or use of their cameras, I can only reply that two of the cameras I own today have the video button so close to the shutter button that I have several times, in my clumsiness, accidentally hit the video button instead of the shutter button. But I have learned something. If and when I am able to upgrade my camera to include the features I desire, I know I can look for a camera that has the ability to re-program the video button to another purpose. As a marrer of fact, I would be very interested in enhancing my list of non-video cameras with a separate list of those cameras which have (for lack of a better term) optional video, I.e., those cameras on which the video button can be disabled or re-programmed. I would appreciate anyone who could supply me with the make/model of any such camera. Thank you.

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Nov 27, 2014 08:34:46   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
LFingar wrote:
Your choice, obviously. To me it's no burden. Just lines of code in the software. Something I will never see and something that makes no difference in the performance of the camera. Five of my last six cameras claimed to be capable of taking video. Couldn't prove it by me. I never used the feature on any of them. It's a pretty safe bet that whatever camera or cameras you have that there are features you don't use and never will use. Why limit yourself in what you buy simply because of another unused feature? Look around at all the products with computer chips in them, which is an ever growing list, and see how many have features you will never use. If things like that bother you then you must have a very short list of things you will buy. I share your dislike of tools that are compromised by a multi-function design, but that is not the case in cameras, or most other electronics.
Your choice, obviously. To me it's no burden. Just... (show quote)


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Nov 27, 2014 23:54:20   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
LFingar wrote:
Your choice, obviously. To me it's no burden. Just lines of code in the software. Something I will never see and something that makes no difference in the performance of the camera. Five of my last six cameras claimed to be capable of taking video. Couldn't prove it by me. I never used the feature on any of them. It's a pretty safe bet that whatever camera or cameras you have that there are features you don't use and never will use. Why limit yourself in what you buy simply because of another unused feature? Look around at all the products with computer chips in them, which is an ever growing list, and see how many have features you will never use. If things like that bother you then you must have a very short list of things you will buy. I share your dislike of tools that are compromised by a multi-function design, but that is not the case in cameras, or most other electronics.
Your choice, obviously. To me it's no burden. Just... (show quote)

If you were bothered by my arthritis, slight infrequent palsy and a condition that can only be described as childhood onset clumsiness (klutziness), you might be inclined to better understand my obsession. You remember the kid that tripped over his own feet every time he turned around; well, that's me! The Army thought they could take that out of me by making me a Drill Instructor; they won't be that foolish again! There's still a platoon of recruits lost in the hills around Fort Ord - from 1964......

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Nov 28, 2014 00:23:43   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Mogul wrote:
If you were bothered by my arthritis, slight infrequent palsy and a condition that can only be described as childhood onset clumsiness (klutziness), you might be inclined to better understand my obsession. You remember the kid that tripped over his own feet every time he turned around; well, that's me! The Army thought they could take that out of me by making me a Drill Instructor; they won't be that foolish again! There's still a platoon of recruits lost in the hills around Fort Ord - from 1964......
If you were bothered by my arthritis, slight infre... (show quote)

I still find it hard to believe you can't avoid turning on the video feature. What is your primary camera body?

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Nov 28, 2014 00:34:54   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
mwsilvers wrote:
I still find it hard to believe you can't avoid turning on the video feature. What is your primary camera body?

Nikon D3200

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Nov 28, 2014 07:49:45   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
Mogul wrote:
If you were bothered by my arthritis, slight infrequent palsy and a condition that can only be described as childhood onset clumsiness (klutziness), you might be inclined to better understand my obsession. You remember the kid that tripped over his own feet every time he turned around; well, that's me! The Army thought they could take that out of me by making me a Drill Instructor; they won't be that foolish again! There's still a platoon of recruits lost in the hills around Fort Ord - from 1964......
If you were bothered by my arthritis, slight infre... (show quote)


Oh, I can understand your mindset, but it seems to me that your issue is really more about the layout of your camera controls then it is about an unused feature. On my 6D, for example, the video controls consist of a small rotating switch, just to the right of the viewfinder, with a dedicated on/off button in it's middle. Pretty hard to hit accidentally. Not impossible though. Sitting in my pickup one day I pulled my camera out of my bag to take some shots. Held it in my lap to check my settings and couldn't understand why nothing seemed right. Apparently, I accidentally hit the switch and button while grabbing the camera. In the few seconds that it took me to figure that out I did get some pretty decent video of my feet! So, I guess I can't say I NEVER have taken any video, but.... :-D

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Nov 28, 2014 22:06:18   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
LFingar wrote:
Oh, I can understand your mindset, but it seems to me that your issue is really more about the layout of your camera controls then it is about an unused feature.

actually it's a bit of both. My FM2n doesn't have video and I don't miss it at all. But then, I'm the guy who went car-shopping last year and gave up in exasperation because after visiting almost a dozen car lots, all I could find was automatic transmissions. Nary a stick in all my stops!

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