topaz overkill
Feb 28, 2012 09:26:40 #
MWAC wrote:
... and he mentioned topaz adjust so many times a group of us turned it into a drinking game in the back of the room.
Sounds like a good club.
Feb 28, 2012 09:30:08 #
BuckeyeTom73 wrote:
A quick study of Ansel Adams' works will tell you that good PP has been around for a long time. It's the application of the tool that counts, not what the tool is.
hahaha! exactly! :)
Feb 28, 2012 09:31:33 #
those that can usually do, those that can't usually tell you why you shouldn't either...
Feb 28, 2012 09:47:13 #
steve_stoneblossom
Loc: Rhode Island, USA
BuckeyeTom73 wrote:
It's the application of the tool that counts, not what the tool is.
Is this what people are talking about when they say I am a tool??
Feb 28, 2012 09:55:58 #
MWAC wrote:
I was turned off Topaz when we had a guest speaker at our photography club meeting and he mentioned topaz adjust so many times a group of us turned it into a drinking game in the back of the room, the first time and only time I had to call my husband to come pick me up from a meeting.
FYI: guest speaker was an old film guy, he was in his late 60's but man he loved Topaz.
FYI: guest speaker was an old film guy, he was in his late 60's but man he loved Topaz.
If you start a drinking game in the back of the room at a camera club meeting your probably at the wrong meeting. Maybe AA would be better. :lol: Just joking! Some of our clubs "photo safaris" would turn into drunken outings. Ran a lot of folks off. We finally split into two groups. I chose the party group. :thumbup:
Feb 28, 2012 11:09:29 #
Judddude
Loc: Missouri
If it's pretty and someone buys a print, it's art no matter what you call it.
Feb 28, 2012 11:22:30 #
The FINAL image is the final answer answer. Topaz, photoshop whatever. Vermeer used a camera obscura to assist him, Ansel Adams praised darkroom techniques. In todays world we have many tools to produce the final image that please us. Others may like the image also, others may dislike it. I sell many more Photos that have been at least tweeked in PP, than most images out of the camera
BuckeyeTom73 wrote:
A quick study of Ansel Adams' works will tell you that good PP has been around for a long time. It's the application of the tool that counts, not what the tool is.
Feb 28, 2012 11:22:39 #
docrob
Loc: Durango, Colorado
Judddude wrote:
If it's pretty and someone buys a print, it's art no matter what you call it.
what if it s not pretty but somebody still buys a print?
Feb 28, 2012 12:21:28 #
docrob wrote:
what if it s not pretty but somebody still buys a print?
Judddude wrote:
If it's pretty and someone buys a print, it's art no matter what you call it.
what if it s not pretty but somebody still buys a print?
"Income"
Feb 28, 2012 12:26:21 #
docrob
Loc: Durango, Colorado
AVarley wrote:
"Income"
docrob wrote:
what if it s not pretty but somebody still buys a print?
Judddude wrote:
If it's pretty and someone buys a print, it's art no matter what you call it.
what if it s not pretty but somebody still buys a print?
"Income"
YAHOO!
Feb 28, 2012 12:38:24 #
Feb 28, 2012 12:54:08 #
naturalite wrote:
Yes, I agree. I think most older film people would. Way too much PP going on these days.
Being in pursuit of a really great photo should be done with your camera in mind & hand, not the computer at home.
Honing one's skills as a photographer first,......then maybe a little PP if it is really necessary.
But this is just my opinion from the peanut gallery.
Being in pursuit of a really great photo should be done with your camera in mind & hand, not the computer at home.
Honing one's skills as a photographer first,......then maybe a little PP if it is really necessary.
But this is just my opinion from the peanut gallery.
We had our versions of PS back in the day. We selected papers and developers to achieve a specific effect; Selectol Soft comes to mind. We had different paper surfaces like surfaces. We used processing by inspection to solve potential problems and we used dodging and burning to fix other issues and problems. We could choose different grades for fixing contrast issues. Not every negative was printed "straight."
I do think that "I can fix it in Photoshop" is an all too common mantra used by many photographers that do not really know how to create a great negative. I mean digital files.
Feb 28, 2012 14:00:26 #
pounder35 wrote:
quote=MWAC I was turned off Topaz when we had a g... (show quote)
Our monthly meetings are held in the back room of a local pub, we are all about having fun while discussing and learning. It's a great group of people who don't take themselves to seriously.
Feb 28, 2012 14:19:39 #
I have seen some really excellent photos that I would consider "art". even though the photographs that I am referring to were heavily manipulated in post processing, they were still a photograph. They were not saturated, or a single color in a B&W. or Topazed or done with any of that HDR crap. All just done with lighting or manipulation of the subject matter. I wish that I had an example of what I was talking about but I can not seem to find one now. Figures. I have never seen what I am talking about posted on this forum. I think English Wolf knows what I am talking about.
Feb 28, 2012 14:54:43 #
MWAC wrote:
quote=pounder35 quote=MWAC I was turned off Topa... (show quote)
"people who don't take themselves too seriously." That's the key. :thumbup: Sounds like a fun club.
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