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Wasserman Schultz Visits Hobby Lobby Store — To Urge A Boycott
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Aug 26, 2014 01:54:34   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
TrainNut wrote:
Just because they pass a law does not mean it is constitutional.


The Supreme Court already ruled on this, its legal.

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Aug 26, 2014 01:58:50   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
There is no "right" to birth control or "right" to anything else to be handed to you by the government, as we understand them, and as they are enshrined into our constitution our rights are natural rights endowed by the creator not by the state.... Now religious freedom has since the inception of our country has been understood as one of those rights, the gift that the state forces an employer to grant to their employees is not one of those rights endowed by the creator.... When the two come into conflict it is only reasonable that the rights enshrined in our constitution out weigh the contemporary political whims of our politicians.

Arguing with you Silver is sometimes more difficult than arguing with a rock....
There is no "right" to birth control or ... (show quote)


Sorry but the constitution guarantees this country certain Inalienable rights. Seems to be government at work to me. The creator has absolutely nothing to do with anything.

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Aug 26, 2014 03:02:22   #
rrforster12 Loc: Leesburg Florida
 
silver wrote:
None of this would be necessary if it weren't for people as the ones that feel that they have the right to impose religious beliefs on their employees and people that own restaurants that have discounts for people that pray. There is no lie here, just religious people forcing their beliefs on others.


Incredibly bad logic! With your rationale, the government, as well as the non-believers are "imposing" their beliefs on the rest of the citizens that do have Religious Beliefs concerning abortion and contraception (which number around 80% of the population) That is certainly tyranny by the minority. Also keep in mind that ever since Lincoln freed the slaves, if an employee really feels oppressed, he/she is perfectly free to leave and go to a more liberal place of employment.

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Aug 26, 2014 03:19:19   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
She needs to be water boarded ;)

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Aug 26, 2014 03:28:52   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
silver wrote:
So you would rather have women have the resulting babies that probably end up on welfare or state aid rather then have birth control available for a couple of dollars? The denial of birth control by businesses that claim to be so religious that any of their female is truly disgusting, its shameful that female employees are not allowed to be covered with birth control. These people are hypocrites and just evil. If you think that any sane person will stop having sex you are a real nut. How about married women that dont want to have any more children or none at all, are they going to be forced to find help from other sources when men have no restrictions whatsoever? This is not an expensive thing to have birth control, oh yeah, you would rather see all those women have babies that they can't care for.
So you would rather have women have the resulting ... (show quote)


See you are listening to the lying liberal media or maybe you just lie on purpose. Hobby Lobby is NOT taking away birth control for their employees, they are denying the payment of ONLY the emergency contraceptives that cause abortions. "What Hobby Lobby will not cover are four contraceptive methods that its owners fear are abortifacients"

Hobby Lobby is still and will continue to provide 16 other birth control options for their employees. Wasserman Schultz just likes spreading propaganda. She is one of the biggest liars of the democratic party.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/381637/hobby-lobby-actually-lavishes-contraception-coverage-its-employees-deroy-murdock

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Aug 26, 2014 11:52:12   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
rrforster12 wrote:
Incredibly bad logic! With your rationale, the government, as well as the non-believers are "imposing" their beliefs on the rest of the citizens that do have Religious Beliefs concerning abortion and contraception (which number around 80% of the population) That is certainly tyranny by the minority. Also keep in mind that ever since Lincoln freed the slaves, if an employee really feels oppressed, he/she is perfectly free to leave and go to a more liberal place of employment.


The cvil rights law prohibits discrimination for everybody. discrimination is discrimination no matter what your so called 80% thinks. No religion has the right to impose their beliefs on others. How about if the muslims with their sharia law when they want to impose that in an american business run by muslims?

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Aug 26, 2014 11:54:45   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
Racmanaz wrote:
See you are listening to the lying liberal media or maybe you just lie on purpose. Hobby Lobby is NOT taking away birth control for their employees, they are denying the payment of ONLY the emergency contraceptives that cause abortions. "What Hobby Lobby will not cover are four contraceptive methods that its owners fear are abortifacients"

Hobby Lobby is still and will continue to provide 16 other birth control options for their employees. Wasserman Schultz just likes spreading propaganda. She is one of the biggest liars of the democratic party.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/381637/hobby-lobby-actually-lavishes-contraception-coverage-its-employees-deroy-murdock
See you are listening to the lying liberal media o... (show quote)


All of the benefits offered by health insurance should be available to all employees. If the hobby lobby people themselves dont want to use it for themselves so be it but they do not have the right to impose their religious beliefs on others.

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Aug 26, 2014 12:15:31   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
silver wrote:
All of the benefits offered by health insurance should be available to all employees. If the hobby lobby people themselves dont want to use it for themselves so be it but they do not have the right to impose their religious beliefs on others.


Wrong again, constitution protects people and business from others violating their religious liberty. You are changing your tune now that you know you were spreading your Liberal propaganda.

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Aug 26, 2014 12:36:50   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
Gitzo wrote:
Wasserman Schultz Visits Hobby Lobby Store — To Urge A Boycott

August 21, 2014 by McClatchy-Tribune


DAVIE, Fla. (MCT) — Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz of Florida, the chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee, stopped at a Hobby Lobby store in her district on Wednesday — not to pick up some craft supplies for one of her kids’ school projects, but to alert people to the store’s existence and urge people not to shop there.

“I want people to know that this Hobby Lobby is here and they should vote with their purses and their pocketbooks, and women should not shop here. If you didn’t know this Hobby Lobby was here before, know it now and don’t shop here.

They don’t deserve women’s business because they are the ones that all across the country have made it harder for women to get access to birth control,” she said.
Wasserman Schultz said the store shouldn’t be patronized because it was the driving force that led to a Supreme Court decision in June that certain family-owned corporations couldn’t be required to provide contraception coverage through their health insurance plans. The contraception mandate was part of the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare.

The congresswoman and party chairwoman spoke at a news conference adjacent to the parking lot of a Hobby Lobby near the intersection of State Road 84 and University Drive in Davie. The store, which opened in April, is the chain’s first South Florida location.

Wasserman Schultz was joined by a representative of Planned Parenthood of South Florida, a Florida International University medical student, and a woman who requires prescription birth control for medical issues not involving contraception. Supporters stood behind them and at the intersection holding anti-Hobby Lobby signs.

Joseph Ottolenghi, the FIU student and co-president of Medical Students for Choice, said limiting employees’ access to certain forms of prescription birth control would have a perverse effect. The more expensive forms of birth control, which are harder for women to afford if they don’t have it covered by insurance, are the most effective. If women don’t get those types of birth control, he said it would lead to more unintended pregnancies and more abortions.

Wasserman Schultz said it is “particularly important to hold Hobby Lobby accountable, stand in front of their business, make things uncomfortable for them because that is what they have done to their employees. I want to make sure that people understand that there’s a business here that doesn’t support its employees, that wants to be able to get in the personal business of their employees and make health care decisions and replace their own values, replace their employees’ health care decisions, with their values. …

“The Supreme Court’s decision in the Hobby Lobby case was not only disappointing, it was dangerous. No boss should have the right to dictate an employee’s health decisions because (they) don’t belong in the bedrooms, doctor’s offices or pharmacies of their employees. A woman and her doctor know what’s best for their body. Not an insurance company. Not a politician. And certainly not a manager at a Hobby Lobby,” she said.

It isn’t the first time Wasserman Schultz has advocated using the power of the purse in a political context. In 2012, when people who support gay rights boycotted the fast food chicken chain Chick-fil-A because of contributions from its owners and foundation to anti-gay causes, she said she issued an edict to her three kids: No more Chick-fil-A.

“Our family votes with our wallets,” she said. “So when we discover a company doesn’t share our family’s values and makes contributions or spends its profits on causes with which we don’t agree, we don’t patronize those businesses anymore. Hobby Lobby is one of the prime examples.”
Public relations representatives for Hobby Lobby couldn’t be reached for comment Wednesday evening. A page on its website describes the 5-4 Supreme Court decision as “a victory for Americans who seek to live by faith.”

The company owners argued that the birth control requirement imposed under the Obamacare health law violated their religious convictions by forcing them to provide “potentially life-terminating drugs and devices in the company’s health insurance plan.”

Most customers at the store late Wednesday didn’t want to talk or have their names published.
Amanda Wilson of Fort Lauderdale, on her first trip to the store to make a return for a friend, said she agreed with Wasserman Schultz in principle. “We should have birth control covered,” she said. But, she said, she wouldn’t avoid patronizing the store because “I don’t feel like I’d make a difference by not spending money there because I’m just one person.”

Kevin Dougherty of Cooper City is a constituent of Wasserman Schultz’s — but not a fan. “I doubt seriously I would give her recommendations any consideration.”

–Anthony Man
Sun Sentinel

My Comments;

Another typical liberal! She could care less about what the SCOTUS ruled on this case.......with libs, it's "my way or the highway"!

I think what Debbie Wasserman Schultz should really do, is have a big fundraiser and go get herself a nice new wig and a face transplant! With the exception of Sheila Jackson-Lee, DWS is the ugliest female member of the House of Representatives. (I heard that when she was still going to college she had to wear a bag over her head just to get a date, and all of the guys she dated made her keep the bag on till they got rid of her. )
Wasserman Schultz Visits Hobby Lobby Store — To Ur... (show quote)



It is very interesting that when you comment about something that has to do with women's rights you call the women involved "ugly" and "wear a bag over her head". These comments clearly show your disdain for women. These are sexist and disgusting remarks. You above all with your old lady followers should be much more aware as to the sexist comments that you are making. After all your old lady followers should know how you actually feel about them. You are a sad and vile man.

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Aug 26, 2014 12:37:58   #
TrainNut Loc: Ridin' the rails
 
silver wrote:
The Supreme Court already ruled on this, its legal.


Not true. Read the ruling.

Educate yourself and you will not be so ignorant.

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Aug 26, 2014 12:42:21   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
TrainNut wrote:
Not true. Read the ruling.

Educate yourself and you will not be so ignorant.


The supreme court sided with hobby lobby and said that they could indeed not offer certain contraception coverage to employees. So How am I ignorant about this?

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Aug 26, 2014 12:44:17   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
silver wrote:
The supreme court sided with hobby lobby and said that they could indeed not offer certain contraception coverage to employees. So How am I ignorant about this?


So why are you still making noise about it, clearly the SCOTUS has already sent the clear message that you are wrong.

Do you enjoy pounding your head repeatedly into a brick wall?

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Aug 26, 2014 12:52:03   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
So why are you still making noise about it, clearly the SCOTUS has already sent the clear message that you are wrong.

Do you enjoy pounding your head repeatedly into a brick wall?


Sorry, but I was responding to train nut and his comment. why dont you investigate before making an idiotic comment. Also I am not wrong, the supreme court sided with hobby lobby so what is wrong with that? Who exactly who is the one clearly making noise now?

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Aug 26, 2014 13:50:14   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
silver wrote:
Sorry, but I was responding to train nut and his comment. why dont you investigate before making an idiotic comment. Also I am not wrong, the supreme court sided with hobby lobby so what is wrong with that? Who exactly who is the one clearly making noise now?


Really..... Let's have a look see.....


silver wrote:

"So you would rather have women have the resulting babies that probably end up on welfare or state aid rather then have birth control available for a couple of dollars? The denial of birth control by businesses that claim to be so religious that any of their female is truly disgusting, its shameful that female employees are not allowed to be covered with birth control. These people are hypocrites and just evil. If you think that any sane person will stop having sex you are a real nut. How about married women that dont want to have any more children or none at all, are they going to be forced to find help from other sources when men have no restrictions whatsoever? This is not an expensive thing to have birth control, oh yeah, you would rather see all those women have babies that they can't care for."

silver wrote:

"First amendment rights forcing religion on employees? HA"


silver wrote:

None of this would be necessary if it weren't for people as the ones that feel that they have the right to impose religious beliefs on their employees and people that own restaurants that have discounts for people that pray. There is no lie here, just religious people forcing their beliefs on others.

silver wrote:

If birth control is a part of health care universally then why does a religious entity have the right to deny female employees birth control? How about the freedom of those women to use their health coverage as they see fit.


silver wrote:

So you dont think that women should be in control of their bodies?


silver wrote:

So, what lies are you talking about? Controlling women's bodies is what its all about, its the ultra christian nut cases that want to control woman's bodies.


silver wrote:

You are a hater of women. You dont want them to have the same rights when it comes to having control of their bodies. You make women second class citizens by calling these two people "ugly". In reality you are the ugly one here. Trying to degrade these two woman by calling them ugly is disgusting and base. You really have no compassion for women's rights. Neither does hobby lobby.

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Aug 26, 2014 19:46:40   #
TrainNut Loc: Ridin' the rails
 
TrainNut wrote:
Just because they pass a law does not mean it is constitutional.

[quote=silver]
The Supreme Court already ruled on this, its legal.

silver wrote:
The supreme court sided with hobby lobby and said that they could indeed not offer certain contraception coverage to employees. So How am I ignorant about this?


Sorry I misunderstood. My mistake. I thought you were talking about something else. You did not make yourself clear.

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