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Aug 17, 2014 18:16:52   #
lighthouse Loc: No Fixed Abode
 
bv52gyf wrote:
Hi everyone, I am looking for some advice on an ultra wide angle lens. I am very keen on landscape photography and would appreciate any recommendations.

I currently have a nifty fifty for my Nikon D3100 and love the sharpness of the prime lens.
I also use a Tamron 18-270 for everyday use and also have the kit lens 18-55 & 55-200.

I probably have a budget of around £400 but happy to save for the right lens if needed.

I have attached a couple of images taken with the Tamron just last week in the north west of Scotland which I feel are lacking something.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Andy
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I think you are being quite hard on yourself.
For 18mm these are very acceptable, quite good images.
But you are right, an ultrawide does make these sort of scenes "sing" a little better.
It is the ability to have near foreground and horizon in focus that gives them this.
Ignore the long end performance of these lenses.
You buy these purely for their performance at the wide end.
And they are not purely for "getting it all in" although they do that very well.
Where they really shine is when getting up close and personal and still having that mountain framing the view.
Turn it portrait and you have leading lines everywhere.
Looking at the shots you took at 18mm, you will take to these lenses like a duck takes to water.

Gene51 wrote:
The older Sigma 10-20 F4-5.6 is an excellent choice that you can get used within your budget. But you are not specific as to what is missing in the images you posted. What is it exactly that you are looking for?


And this is the one I also recommend as well.
I used to shoot it on a D90 and it did magic work.
And aside from what kymarto says below, I found its flare resistance to be very good, even with the full sun in the image.

kymarto wrote:
I have tried or owned most of them and my favorite by a wide margin (haha) is the Sigma 8-16. It is the sharpest of the lot--right to the edges, and has well controlled flare and CA. In addition it is significantly wider than any other UWA. The only real disadvantage is the inability to mount filters, so if you regularly use ND or CPL filters you may have to give up this lovely option.

Second on my list would be the Nikon 10-24. It has even better flare resistance than the Sigma, but at 10mm the corners are quite soft--though to be fair it is only the extreme corners.

The Tokina 11-16 is very sharp in the center and only slightly worse in the corners than the Sigma, but it has pretty atrocious CA and very poor flare resistance, so I have up using mine.

The Sigma 10-20 4-5.6 is pretty good, but the corners are a bit soft and flare resistance is not great. The f3.5 version has rather atrocious corners, but the get better around f8.

Forget the Tamron 10-24....

The Nikon 12-24 does not have good corner sharpness, and 12mm is a bit too long at the wide end for my tastes.
I have tried or owned most of them and my favorite... (show quote)


kymarto has tried them all so he has the benefit of direct comparison and experience.
If he says the 8-16mm is better than the rest, then I would believe him.
I know of no other poster on UHH who has tried them all.
Having said that - if night skies and Milky Way shots are something you wish to do, then the aspherical element and F/2.8 of the Tokina 11-16mm is probably your better option.
Version 2 has an internal focus motor so should autofocus with your camera.

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Aug 17, 2014 21:30:58   #
kymarto Loc: Portland OR and Milan Italy
 
I have both the Sigma 8-16 for DX and the 14-24 for FX. The 14-24 is a fabulous lens, with sharpness second to none and an amazing clarity. That being said, it has some drawbacks--it tends to flare easily and 14 is just not that wide on DX. I have shot comparisons between the 14-24 and the 8-16 on DX and FX respectively, and until rather large sizes there is not a big difference. Also the Sigma is wider, going to the equivalent of 12mm on FX.

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Aug 18, 2014 07:01:57   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
bv52gyf wrote:
Hi everyone, I am looking for some advice on an ultra wide angle lens. I am very keen on landscape photography and would appreciate any recommendations.

I currently have a nifty fifty for my Nikon D3100 and love the sharpness of the prime lens.
I also use a Tamron 18-270 for everyday use and also have the kit lens 18-55 & 55-200.

I probably have a budget of around £400 but happy to save for the right lens if needed.

I have attached a couple of images taken with the Tamron just last week in the north west of Scotland which I feel are lacking something.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Andy
Hi everyone, I am looking for some advice on an ul... (show quote)


I have the Tamron 10-24 for my D7100 and it is pretty good. You just have to remember that at 10mm it will give a little curve or fisheye but Lightroom takes it out (or most of it) if you put the lens type in when developing. The lens was about half the price of the Nikon 10-24 but the Nikon does NOT fisheye. (NOTE: both Nikon and Tamron lenses are for DX cameras). The Tamron also will close focus to .3 meters (about 1 ft.) so is nice for flowers etc.

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Aug 18, 2014 07:23:37   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
bv52gyf wrote:
Hi everyone, I am looking for some advice on an ultra wide angle lens. I am very keen on landscape photography and would appreciate any recommendations.

I currently have a nifty fifty for my Nikon D3100 and love the sharpness of the prime lens.
I also use a Tamron 18-270 for everyday use and also have the kit lens 18-55 & 55-200.

I probably have a budget of around £400 but happy to save for the right lens if needed.

I have attached a couple of images taken with the Tamron just last week in the north west of Scotland which I feel are lacking something.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Andy
Hi everyone, I am looking for some advice on an ul... (show quote)


I used the Tokina 11-16mm on my D7000. Nice lens, but with a spread of just 5mm, it's a stretch calling it a zoom.

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Aug 18, 2014 08:44:43   #
Op3thian
 
I HIGHLY RECOMMEND the Tokina 11-16mm ultra wide pro!!

I purchased one about 8 months ago for a Noel Kerns Workshop I attended and it RARELY COMES OFF OF MY CAMER!!! Can't say enough about it!! It is a fantastic lens!!!

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Aug 18, 2014 09:23:24   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
bv52gyf wrote:
Hi everyone, I am looking for some advice on an ultra wide angle lens. I am very keen on landscape photography and would appreciate any recommendations.

I currently have a nifty fifty for my Nikon D3100 and love the sharpness of the prime lens.
I also use a Tamron 18-270 for everyday use and also have the kit lens 18-55 & 55-200.

I probably have a budget of around £400 but happy to save for the right lens if needed.

I have attached a couple of images taken with the Tamron just last week in the north west of Scotland which I feel are lacking something.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Andy
Hi everyone, I am looking for some advice on an ul... (show quote)


For what you are suggesting, I would recommend the latest Tokina 12-28mm f4 . Go to Ken Rockwell's site to see his glowing review of this lens. Cost? about $600

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Aug 18, 2014 09:50:24   #
WereWolf1967 Loc: Knoxville, TN
 
TJer wrote:
Interesting question BV. I went through the same kind of review of the various UWA lenses and found that I enjoyed the Nikon 14-24mm and the 24mm prime the most. There is just something very, very special about the images these two lenses produce which is very different from all the others in the same category which I've also tried. I know they are beyond your budget but ask you to consider them from a rental perspective because there are very few of us that use these lenses enough to warrant the investment they command. You may want to enjoy using them as rentals which a lot of photographers do who only have need for them infrequently. Give them a look see. You may find them as interesting as I did!
Interesting question BV. I went through the same k... (show quote)


Well, to put my two cents into this thread, I'll just draw on a 70's saying, "different strokes for different folks". Basically it's whatever works for you.

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Aug 18, 2014 10:56:00   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
bv52gyf wrote:
Hi everyone, I am looking for some advice on an ultra wide angle lens. I am very keen on landscape photography and would appreciate any recommendations.

I currently have a nifty fifty for my Nikon D3100 and love the sharpness of the prime lens.
I also use a Tamron 18-270 for everyday use and also have the kit lens 18-55 & 55-200.

I probably have a budget of around £400 but happy to save for the right lens if needed.

I have attached a couple of images taken with the Tamron just last week in the north west of Scotland which I feel are lacking something.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Andy
Hi everyone, I am looking for some advice on an ul... (show quote)


The Nikon 10-24 is the ticket for your camera. You might find a used one within your budget.

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Aug 18, 2014 10:58:30   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
dcampbell52 wrote:
I have the Tamron 10-24 for my D7100 and it is pretty good. You just have to remember that at 10mm it will give a little curve or fisheye but Lightroom takes it out (or most of it) if you put the lens type in when developing. The lens was about half the price of the Nikon 10-24 but the Nikon does NOT fisheye. (NOTE: both Nikon and Tamron lenses are for DX cameras). The Tamron also will close focus to .3 meters (about 1 ft.) so is nice for flowers etc.


The Nikon distorts also at the wide end. If you shoot in RAW, as I do, the camera correction isn't applied. (Or if I use it on my Sony NE-7, which I am now able to do with an adapter.)

So I too use the Lightroom lens correction with the Nikon 10-24.

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Aug 18, 2014 11:01:14   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
bv52gyf wrote:
Hi everyone, I am looking for some advice on an ultra wide angle lens. I am very keen on landscape photography and would appreciate any recommendations.

I currently have a nifty fifty for my Nikon D3100 and love the sharpness of the prime lens.
I also use a Tamron 18-270 for everyday use and also have the kit lens 18-55 & 55-200.

I probably have a budget of around £400 but happy to save for the right lens if needed.

I have attached a couple of images taken with the Tamron just last week in the north west of Scotland which I feel are lacking something.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Andy
Hi everyone, I am looking for some advice on an ul... (show quote)


PS: If you like the nifty fifty you'll love the f1.8 35mm, which is the more appropriate "normal" prime for your sensor size.

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Aug 18, 2014 11:49:30   #
GeorgeH Loc: Jonesboro, GA
 
I've been really pleased with my K mount Sigma 10-20 f4. Really sharp, and with the Lightroom lens profiles such distortion as it has is pretty well removed.

While a fisheye would be fun, I can't imagine using it very much, certainly not enough to justify typical prices.

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Aug 18, 2014 13:20:23   #
kymarto Loc: Portland OR and Milan Italy
 
For more objective comparisons of all these lenses go to lenstip.com and photozone.de. On the latter site check crop lenses for both Nikon and Canon.

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Aug 18, 2014 14:45:39   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
kymarto wrote:
For more objective comparisons of all these lenses go to lenstip.com and photozone.de. On the latter site check crop lenses for both Nikon and Canon.


No Photozone test for the Tokina 12-28 ......maybe - too new

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Aug 18, 2014 15:37:01   #
lycaean69
 
Please, also try Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art/HSM and see if it meets your purpose. Can't get any wider field of view than that and it blows the competition away! Excellent for landscape, portrait, studio and street photography. Costs between $300 to $400 so you have a lot of spare changes.

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Aug 18, 2014 16:18:44   #
photoninja1 Loc: Tampa Florida
 
You didn't make your pix downloadable so it's harder to analyse, but pic 1 is just blocked up in the shadows. That's an exposure/processing issue, not a lens problem. Number two could have a little more DOF and more contrast. Again probably not a lens issue.

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