Ultra wide angle lens
Aug 18, 2014 16:36:56 #
lighthouse
Loc: No Fixed Abode
lycaean69 wrote:
Please, also try Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art/HSM and see if it meets your purpose. Can't get any wider field of view than that and it blows the competition away! Excellent for landscape, portrait, studio and street photography. Costs between $300 to $400 so you have a lot of spare changes.
It doesn't meet his purpose.
It doesn't even meet the criteria or definition.
You obviously don't know what "field of view" means so on what basis do you make your judgement that it blows the competition away?
Aug 18, 2014 17:56:56 #
rfmaude41
Loc: Lancaster, Texas (DFW area)
bv52gyf wrote:
Hi everyone, I am looking for some advice on an ul... (show quote)
Look at the Sigma 10-20mm, also the equivalent ones from Tamron and Tokina. I have the Sigma, no regrets...
Aug 18, 2014 18:00:54 #
I have about every wide angle lens they made--but the one I reach for is the Sigma 8-16--It does a great job--out of 6,000 pictures I just took in Scotland over half were through the 8-16--it's angle of view is very close to what the human eye sees.
Stan
Stan
Aug 18, 2014 18:31:26 #
bv52gyf wrote:
Hi everyone, I am looking for some advice on an ul... (show quote)
Could depend on what you want from a wider lens. If perspective effects are secondary to simply covering a scene, doing a panorama with your 50mm might do the job. If nothing else the 50 will be sharper than the best wide angle at any price. Panaramas can be done hand held with practice, plus Microsoft make a free stiching application so there is mo cost to testing it out before springing for a new lens. If you already have a tripod that works better still.
Aug 18, 2014 18:58:10 #
Lighthouse: go to youtube.com and search for this lens. You will see a lot of reviews and test pictures! If not field of view then wide angle lens because of its low aperture! Anyways, it's just a suggestion and will not hurt him if he tries, right! Just like every one else's suggestions. There are many conflicting suggestions here about the right lens; one saying one lens is better than the other; while the other is saying this one is better. Best thing to do for him is to try first all the suggested lenses before making the decision either to buy or rent what he believes is right! All the suggested lenses are expensive. We don't want him to get lens that will not serve his purpose. Remember I suggested: "Please, also try ...."! How simple is that?
P.S: If you're not satisfied with my response, please read MW's post above. He also suggested a 50mm. No idea if it was a f/1.4, f/1.2 or f/1.8.
P.S: If you're not satisfied with my response, please read MW's post above. He also suggested a 50mm. No idea if it was a f/1.4, f/1.2 or f/1.8.
Aug 18, 2014 19:07:28 #
http://www.lenstip.com/381.1-Lens_review-Tokina_AT-X_PRO_DX_12-28_mm_f_4-Introduction.html
Like the 11-16, the lens is sharp but has real issues with flare and CA.
Like the 11-16, the lens is sharp but has real issues with flare and CA.
Aug 18, 2014 19:46:04 #
lighthouse
Loc: No Fixed Abode
lycaean69 wrote:
Lighthouse: go to youtube.com and search for this ... (show quote)
Sorry, you are wrong.
Low aperture does not equal wide angle.
The title of the thread is "Ultra wide angle lens".
That means a rectilinear lens of 21mm or less on a full frame and 15mm or less on an APSC camera.
A 50mm lens is not ultrawide angle by any means.
All the suggested lenses are very affordable for what they do.
The "conflicting suggestions" are exactly what the OP is after - peoples experience and opinions of the different ultrawide angle alternatives.
Aug 18, 2014 20:36:29 #
Hi Andy, I have a Nikon D5100 and I bought the cheaper one of the 2 Sigma 10-20mm Lenses. Both the Sigma 10-20mm Lenses have excellent reviews, - the dearer one beating Nikon's 10-24mm for performance and sporting a constant aperture of (I think) f3.5 throughout it's zoom range. Sigma also does a wide angle lens that starts from 8mm, - this would give a 12mm equivalent on our APSC (DX) sized sensors in 35mm (Full Frame) terms; - pretty wide!
I'm really pleased with the performance of my Sigma 10-20mm; - I find it great for landscape photography - and for photographing building interiors.
Regards, Danny.
I'm really pleased with the performance of my Sigma 10-20mm; - I find it great for landscape photography - and for photographing building interiors.
Regards, Danny.
Aug 18, 2014 20:52:31 #
Lighthouse: Exactly, that's what I meant when I said "conflicting suggestions". For him to truly find what he wants, he needs to try each and every one of those lenses then decide which one to get. So far, I counted there are 12 suggested lenses and more are coming. I am confused which is better, and believe, he is too! Agree with you all the suggested lenses are good. We don't expect him to get them all. One lens is better than the other for his purpose and that's the one he will he get.
Aug 18, 2014 21:03:21 #
kymarto wrote:
http://www.lenstip.com/381.1-Lens_review-Tokina_AT-X_PRO_DX_12-28_mm_f_4-Introduction.html
Like the 11-16, the lens is sharp but has real issues with flare and CA.
Like the 11-16, the lens is sharp but has real issues with flare and CA.
I am a little suspect of reviews that do not include names of the reviewers ! Seemingly, a thorough review - but Rockwell's differs greatly ! Reality? maybe somewhere in between? - Unless you speak from using this lens ? One thing is clear to me - it is a very good lens with very good range for the money.....and has the latest technologies.
Aug 18, 2014 21:09:44 #
lighthouse
Loc: No Fixed Abode
lycaean69 wrote:
Lighthouse: Exactly, that's what I meant when I sa... (show quote)
I am surprised that you count 12 lenses listed in this thread but won't double check.
Thats largely irrelevant anyway.
Very easy to trim the list to 3 whatever his criteria, and to be honest, it won't really matter which of those three are singled out for final purchase. They will all be good options.
Aug 18, 2014 21:29:40 #
Lighthouse: Okay, let's put a end to this discussion. He read my post as well as yours. At the end, it's all up to him if wants to try them all or not! Relevant or not, doesn't matter! What matter is he will only buy one lens and we won't know which one!
Aug 18, 2014 22:27:32 #
Szymon does all the lenstip reviews, and he does them scientifically and in a controlled manner. My beef with Ken Rockwell is that he relies on his impressions. Makes for fun reading but little else. The problems of CA and flare are clearly demonstrable if one tests for them. Other than that it seems like a decent lens. FWIW I have always found lenstip reviews quite accurate for the lenses I own and use, so the 12-28 review would definitely throw up a red flag for me. OTOH if you are not shooting against the light and correct the CA it might not be an issue at all.
One other thing to be aware of is the rather horrible MF/AF clutch on the Tokina--you have to manually move a ring to switch focus modes. No way to AF and then do minor corrections manually. This is very old technology. I had the 11-16 and could not live with those same CA and flare problems. I have been very happy since with the Sigma 8-16. A shame, because basically the 11-16 is a nice lens.
One other thing to be aware of is the rather horrible MF/AF clutch on the Tokina--you have to manually move a ring to switch focus modes. No way to AF and then do minor corrections manually. This is very old technology. I had the 11-16 and could not live with those same CA and flare problems. I have been very happy since with the Sigma 8-16. A shame, because basically the 11-16 is a nice lens.
Aug 18, 2014 23:21:51 #
Barry G.
Loc: Central Valley, Ca.
bv52gyf wrote:
Hi everyone, I am looking for some advice on an ul... (show quote)
look up the lens you want on the Ken Rockwell site on the net he has an extensive review on wide angle lenses.
you may be surprised to find out you should shoot ultra wide within inches of your subject not miles.
happy shooting. barry
Aug 19, 2014 00:08:50 #
It would seem important to mentioned the big difference in angle of view a few mm can make in ultra wide angle lenses.
On a camera with a 1.5 crop factor, an 8mm lens takes a shot 12 degrees wider than a 10mm lens. That is significant! A difference of 2mm just doesn't sound like much, but with an ultra wide angle it is a very big and important difference.
8mm = 114.5 degrees
10mm = 102.4 degrees
12mm = 99 degrees
14mm = 90 degrees
16mm = 83 degrees
18mm = 76 degrees
I use and really enjoy my Sigma 8-16. If your not careful you could get your own feet into the picture when shooting that wide.
On a camera with a 1.5 crop factor, an 8mm lens takes a shot 12 degrees wider than a 10mm lens. That is significant! A difference of 2mm just doesn't sound like much, but with an ultra wide angle it is a very big and important difference.
8mm = 114.5 degrees
10mm = 102.4 degrees
12mm = 99 degrees
14mm = 90 degrees
16mm = 83 degrees
18mm = 76 degrees
I use and really enjoy my Sigma 8-16. If your not careful you could get your own feet into the picture when shooting that wide.
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