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Aug 11, 2014 04:47:58   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
MT Shooter wrote:
I, for one, always want a camera that exceeds my capabilities, otherwise I would have nothing to grow into or look forward to discovering.


Did anyone ever exceed the capabilities of their film camera?

I doubt it.

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Aug 11, 2014 05:39:35   #
Shutter Bugger
 
MT Shooter wrote:
I, for one, always want a camera that exceeds my capabilities, otherwise I would have nothing to grow into or look forward to discovering.


Interesting point of view, however photography
as a hobby or profession offers infinite possibilities; a Nikon FM for example, was a manual camera that you could become familiar with every function within an hour; as such
you could be searching the infinite possibilities of photography within an hour rather than searching a camera or its operating manual for however long.

Having said that, the addition of "program" mode, can be useful when those opportunities that are gone in a heart beat are presented.

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Aug 11, 2014 05:52:42   #
Shutter Bugger
 
joer wrote:
Did anyone ever exceed the capabilities of their film camera?

I doubt it.


Some of those disposable film cameras were "easy beat".

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Aug 11, 2014 06:46:47   #
Jackinthebox Loc: travel the world
 
joer wrote:
Did anyone ever exceed the capabilities of their film camera?

I doubt it.


Yes I did when I could not put an SD card in to it.

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Aug 11, 2014 07:50:16   #
Mike Adams Loc: Connecticut
 
This is true of so many things: how many of use use even a fraction of Excel or Word's capabilities. A friend described them as buying a 747 to roll down the runway and crack walnuts: there is no no doubt it will do the job, but there may be much simpler (and cheaper) solutions.

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Aug 11, 2014 09:50:27   #
tradergeorge Loc: Newport, Kentucky
 
joer wrote:
I think some people have missed the point of the original post.


Most times, when communication fails, it is because the sender either did not provide enough detail or was not clear. Since your statement was very simple, but did not seem to convey your meaning, you may want to re-state in different terms. You can seldom blame a receiver for a garbled message.

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Aug 11, 2014 10:02:47   #
SonnyE Loc: Communist California, USA
 
MT Shooter wrote:
I, for one, always want a camera that exceeds my capabilities, otherwise I would have nothing to grow into or look forward to discovering.


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Aug 11, 2014 10:06:59   #
SonnyE Loc: Communist California, USA
 
Mike Adams wrote:
This is true of so many things: how many of use use even a fraction of Excel or Word's capabilities. A friend described them as buying a 747 to roll down the runway and crack walnuts: there is no no doubt it will do the job, but there may be much simpler (and cheaper) solutions.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :thumbup:

(I think you might wind up with walnut butter. And I'd pass on the fudge made with those walnuts.)

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Aug 11, 2014 12:11:02   #
Jackinthebox Loc: travel the world
 
Mike Adams wrote:
This is true of so many things: how many of use use even a fraction of Excel or Word's capabilities. A friend described them as buying a 747 to roll down the runway and crack walnuts: there is no no doubt it will do the job, but there may be much simpler (and cheaper) solutions.



Excel and Word are not made for dummies.
If you are incapable and like to stay that way, do so.
But showing yourself to be a backwards idiot just shows you to be a backwards idiot.

How many of US use a fraction of those application? Only an idiot would stick his/her neck out like this.

Mike, you must have heard this: it is better to keep your mouth shut and have people think you're an idiot than open your mouth and take all doubt away.
Damn, you made me say it.

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Aug 11, 2014 13:08:42   #
djenrette Loc: Philadelphia
 
When you complain about a camera having too many features is that the problem of the camera or the photographer? Just asking.

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Aug 11, 2014 13:15:36   #
mikegreenwald Loc: Illinois
 
I find I initially use few of the available options on new cameras, but as new situations arise, I add to my knowledge of the camera to produce a better photo. Not every photographer has the same needs, and there will always be options that are of no use to you or me, but essential to someone else. Further, when I buy a new camera, I don't always know what functions I will need down the road.

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Aug 11, 2014 13:23:11   #
Ranjan Loc: Currently Cyber-Nation!
 
joer wrote:
Did anyone ever exceed the capabilities of their film camera?

I doubt it.


I think what happened (some say, *occurred*!) was that the digital medium exceeded the capabilities of the film medium! Capabilities not in terms of quality, at least not in the first 10-20 years of digital evolution, but in terms of the time required to process and actually view the results, the costs (film stock, processing, display, archival space), etc. Digital medium provided the 'instant gratification' that consumers were getting used to generally and the electronic revolution and computers etc were assisting the marketplace coupe!

I love my waterman fountain pen and the feeling of how it gracefully glides on paper, but other than keeping it in front of my eyes on my monitor pedestal, and not really having overgrown or surpassed it, sometimes one has to flow with the times and digital is not that bad or less capable for most other than a few die-hards that still are fond of the waterman fountain pen (metaphorically-speaking)... <SIGH!>

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Aug 11, 2014 15:14:46   #
RichardQ Loc: Colorado
 
joer wrote:
Did anyone ever exceed the capabilities of their film camera?

I doubt it.


When I traveled the country as an industrial advertising photographer about 55-60 years ago, I often alternated between a 4x5 sheet-film view camera and an Automatic Rolleiflex medium-format roll-film camera. Neither one alone had all the capabilities I needed. The view camera provided interchangeable lenses, swings, shifts and tilts, and easily alternated between b/w and color film holders for the same subject, but it was slow and cumbersome to set up, requiring a tripod. The Rollei was quick and easy to use, versatile in many ways, but limited to one focal length lens and unable to quickly change from b/w to color film when necessary. I loved them both. Perhaps there was some feature I never used, but I don't think so. However, I'm convinced that if I were using a modern digital camera there's no way that I could begin to use all the built-in capabilities. It's a combined camera, darkroom and printing press prep desk, all in one. Of course, the price of a medium-format digital camera reflects the expense of including all those capabilities in one package. Somebody must be buying them, but it sure isn't me.

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Aug 11, 2014 15:25:24   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
joer wrote:
Did anyone ever exceed the capabilities of their film camera?

I doubt it.


I have. Which is why I purchased a 4x5 and subsequent to that, a Hasselblad.

The capability I exceeded was the need to produce good quality large prints. The 35mm was just not capable of really good prints larger than 11x14. The 4x5 was just warming up with 16x20 prints.

Oh, I could do larger with the 35mm, but I had to plan for that with choice of film and having a sturdy tripod with me.
--Bob

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Aug 11, 2014 16:44:35   #
DJ Mills Loc: Idaho
 
:thumbup: WAY too complicated. Also cars, TV sets, computers, people.

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