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Apr 25, 2014 19:36:20   #
wilsondl2 Loc: Lincoln, Nebraska
 
msmith44 wrote:
Well... at least some folks are still getting married.


I still think it strange to shoot a full blown wedding when the couple has "been together" for severel years and have a couple of kids. Many times the kids have been ring barrers or flower girls. Guess I'm old. - Dave

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Apr 25, 2014 19:43:11   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
wilsondl2 wrote:
I still think it strange to shoot a full blown wedding when the couple has "been together" for severel years and have a couple of kids. Many times the kids have been ring barrers or flower girls. Guess I'm old. - Dave

If they decide they want a full blown wedding, then I would have no problem shooting it. :-)

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Apr 25, 2014 20:31:47   #
GrayPlayer Loc: Granby, Ct.
 
Had an opportunity to view wedding photos couple years ago. First photo I was shown the bride and groom were seated in a comfortable garden setting with a pole growing out of the brides head. I, the "gracious" person I am offered to remove the pole. "What's wrong with the pole" was the first comment. 'nough said!

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Apr 25, 2014 21:02:49   #
10MPlayer Loc: California
 
wilsondl2 wrote:
I still think it strange to shoot a full blown wedding when the couple has "been together" for severel years and have a couple of kids. Many times the kids have been ring barrers or flower girls. Guess I'm old. - Dave


I'm an old guy too but I try to understand. I have a 29 year old daughter who I think will be announcing she's getting married soon but that's beside the point. The point is, the world has changed. There are still lots of traditional young people out there who value marriage and commitment, and there's a growing number who have no idea what that's all about. In a way it's nice young people aren't tied down with so many rules about what a correct lifestyle is. But on the other hand all those rules made life a little simpler because everyone knew what was expected. It's hard to figure out what's better. The upside is you can choose the way you want to go and no one outside your circle of friends and family is going to care very much.

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Apr 25, 2014 23:53:03   #
RmcBUDDY Loc: Morris County, NJ
 
marine73 wrote:
I remember up to the late sixties early seventies there were still service stations that would pump the gas and check under the hood for you. But Alas that has gone the way of everything else, and as far as I know Oregon is the only state that does not allow you to pump your own gas or check under the hood.


You can't pump your own gas in NJ either.

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Apr 26, 2014 06:26:45   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
msmith44 wrote:
Well... at least some folks are still getting married.


I'm such a firm believer in marriage that I've done it three times! :D

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May 1, 2014 13:43:52   #
bkyser Loc: Fly over country in Indiana
 
LFingar wrote:
I'm such a firm believer in marriage that I've done it three times! :D


:lol: After 30 years, I think I'm getting the hang of the first marriage. Not sure I have enough time left in me to be trained all over by another one.

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May 1, 2014 13:49:39   #
bkyser Loc: Fly over country in Indiana
 
wilsondl2 wrote:
If the group shots are taken at the Wedding location I like to take the pictures after the Wedding. I get a lot more cooperation. Before it seems at least one important person does not show up on time. After the wedding they are all there. You always have two or three Aunt Millies and Uncle Bobs that show up and interrupt the session. One time I had have the bridal party go out for hamburgers. To do it afterworlds you have to put down the law beforehand that everyone will cooperate. I have an enforcer appointed by each side of the family to make sure this happens. If everyone is there I start with the large group shots and go down to the Bride and Groom and if not start with Bride and Groom and work up. Before the wedding I get candads in the dressing room and the bride and groom alone in more formal shots. I think that one thing that is hurting the wedding business is the so called photojournalism type of photography. Most people think anyone with a camera can do that. - Dave
If the group shots are taken at the Wedding locati... (show quote)


I'm sure some will take offense to that, but seriously, I always get suspicious when I see someone advertise "photojournalistic". I guess I'm old and can be a snob, but I also see ads from time to time, even on Groupon and places like that where they say, I shoot with "natural light." Well I'm sure it isn't always the case, but I usually jump to the conclusion....they probably are afraid of, or don't understand flash. If a natural light photographer is using reflectors, OK, they know what they are doing.

OK jump on me for that..I have thick skin. Some may be the exception, but for the most part, I think I'm pretty right. (well, not pretty....maybe pretty ugly)

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May 1, 2014 14:47:00   #
wilsondl2 Loc: Lincoln, Nebraska
 
LFingar wrote:
I'm such a firm believer in marriage that I've done it three times! :D


I think 53 years is just a good start. My religion (Mormon) believes in marriage for time and all eternity. - Dave

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May 20, 2014 13:48:11   #
bkyser Loc: Fly over country in Indiana
 
wilsondl2 wrote:
I still think it strange to shoot a full blown wedding when the couple has "been together" for severel years and have a couple of kids. Many times the kids have been ring barrers or flower girls. Guess I'm old. - Dave


Hey Wilson, I just shot a wedding this past weekend where the bride and groom were both in their 60's. Both had been married at least once before, and they had been living with each other for a year. She had a beautiful gown. I commented on how pretty it was, and she explained that she had never gotten the chance to wear a beautiful gown, as when she was married the first time, it was a Justice of the Peace wedding. I'm guessing she told that same thing to several people that day, but she was a VERY happy bride.

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Jul 26, 2014 23:38:55   #
skidooman Loc: Minnesota
 
Very nice rant, I agree. I think one of the problems with todays B&Gs is first off, they don't budget for photos. Hiring a photographer comes as one of the last things they think about. Combine that with a "that's good enough" mentality about photography, they start looking for someone that'll do it for practically nothing, with little or no experience (shoot and burn). My response is usually something along the lines of,,,,,start adding up the cost of your dress, tuxes, cake, venue, flowers and decorations, limo etc. Do you really want all that recorded by some amateur?

I'm asked on occasion how many images I will typically shoot. Somewhere between 250-400. Most are carefully thought out. I can't imagine wasting my time culling through 1000s.

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Aug 10, 2014 22:00:59   #
GrayPlayer Loc: Granby, Ct.
 
Saw wedding photos recently and lighting was poor, photo of seated couple featured a light pole growing out of the brides head. Quality was average to poor. Artistic photography has gone the way of the "57' Chevy!"

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Aug 10, 2014 22:02:26   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
GrayPlayer wrote:
Saw wedding photos recently and lighting was poor, photo of seated couple featured a light pole growing out of the brides head. Quality was average to poor. Artistic photography has gone the way of the "57' Chevy!"

I don't think it's "journalistic" photography or "non-artistic" photography, but "I don't give a crap" photography.

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Aug 21, 2014 16:34:02   #
bkyser Loc: Fly over country in Indiana
 
amehta wrote:
I don't think it's "journalistic" photography or "non-artistic" photography, but "I don't give a crap" photography.


Amen

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Aug 21, 2014 16:48:19   #
TheDman Loc: USA
 
bkyser wrote:
I'm sure some will take offense to that, but seriously, I always get suspicious when I see someone advertise "photojournalistic". I guess I'm old and can be a snob, but I also see ads from time to time, even on Groupon and places like that where they say, I shoot with "natural light." Well I'm sure it isn't always the case, but I usually jump to the conclusion....they probably are afraid of, or don't understand flash.


That's exactly the impression I get and, 99% of the time, exactly what that means.

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