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Aug 5, 2014 10:54:57   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
Bazbo wrote:
Blurry--you might try breaking up your narratives into more digestible paragraphs. I do try to read seriously read what you post--long unbroken paragraphs makes the reading a little tougher tun it needs to be.

That out of the way, much of what you say about Lincoln is true, but without the benefit of full context. For example, Lincoln was against extending slavery to the territories--the issues that eventually lend to armed conflict. Or in the case of Kansas, not so eventual.

While true that Lincoln was not a civil rights activist, he must be fairly considered in the context of his time. Just like the Founders, in the context of their time, they were all liberals.
Blurry--you might try breaking up your narratives ... (show quote)

Do you always talk down to people? Just curious.

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Aug 5, 2014 10:56:15   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
PNagy wrote:
After 1972 the Dixiecrats defected en mass to the Republican Party where even today their descendants and political heirs form the far right core of the modern Republicans.


Again, more brainwashed democrat lies.... You should know better Nagy, and if you don't you are foolish, something that I would have never characterized you as before having read this.

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Aug 5, 2014 10:56:16   #
Jim Bob
 
Cykdelic wrote:
JimBob,

Mongia moi, my liberal idiot friend.

You are quick to attack and be an ass and make assumptions......it is you who are dumbing things down by being a dismissive moron. IF you actually can read and follow those blogs you know I take both sides to task, but I will, like you did, assume your dogma is so strong you cannot read or accept things you disagree with.

Liberal, huh? First response of an idiot is to label someone without any factual evidence. Second response is typically to accuse someone else of your own shortcomings. You win on both counts. Congratulations.

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Aug 5, 2014 10:57:41   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
idaholover wrote:
Do you always talk down to people? Just curious.


I did not find his statement offensive, he is right, the run on paragraph is hard to read, and he is affirming what I said about Lincoln.

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Aug 5, 2014 10:58:34   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Agreed, slavery was an issue that Lincoln did not really want to be forced to deal with it. I think that we can all agree that slavery is a blight and unfortunate aspect of American history, it is an unthinkable reality of American heritage, the point is that Lincoln is not the civil rights hero that many claim him to be.


Well, American, and European, and African, heritage. Let's make sure all involved shoulder the responsibility!

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Aug 5, 2014 11:01:01   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
I did not find his statement offensive, he is right, the run on paragraph is hard to read, and he is affirming what I said about Lincoln.


I find his tone offensive. But that's just me.

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Aug 5, 2014 11:06:34   #
Charlie44
 
idaholover wrote:
1- and they don't like what they got!
2- everybody I talk to including myself, it went up, a lot!
3-26 is not a child, if they are still at home they're lazy or a victim of the Obama economy!
4- As one who has to obtain individual coverage we have less choices and why should you be able to buy after you get sick when the rest of us were trying to do what was responsible all along? You can't buy home owners insurance after you house catches fire!
5-I'd like to see someone tell you you are only allowed to make a certain amount of money per year! That's communism.

The only thing you got right is it IS a nightmare!
1- and they don't like what they got! br 2- everyb... (show quote)


Actually, in states like Minnesota, New York and California, that fully implemented the Affordable Care Act, and set up their own exchanges, insurance rates have declined significantly, as much as 20% after decades of double-digit increases. Should a family with a child who is born with a congenital birth defect be forever precluded from health insurance because of a per-existing condition. That would make as much sense as saying if someone back-ends your car you shouldn't be able to by auto insurance.

Under the ACA, health insurance is, in-fact, more portable and provides more options for coverage than insurance through an employer that is limited to a particular provider or network. As for your suggestion that limiting the amount of profit insurance companies can make to 20% doesn't seem all that outrageous. Most companies are delighted with a 5% profit on their investment, there are limits on how much credit card companies can charge and electricity rates are subject to regulation by public service commissions, is that communism? The SEC regulates the sale of stock, our highways have speed limits and states require that you have a license and insurance if you drive a car. Communism? I don't think so.

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Aug 5, 2014 11:09:17   #
Jim Bob
 
Cykdelic wrote:
Well, American, and European, and African, heritage. Let's make sure all involved shoulder the responsibility!

Yeah. And make sure it is "shouldered" based on the each groups level of involvement. For American slavery, that would be Americans. Can't legitimately blame Europe or Africa, for although they fostered the institution, the choice to utilize slave labor and the resultant racism are inherently American choices.

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Aug 5, 2014 11:10:19   #
marblclear Loc: Sacramento CA
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Just as a starter it seems to me that the Emancipation Proclamation was signed by none other than Abraham Lincoln, a Republican POTUS. Now how you can claim that as a Liberal accomplishment is beyond me.

Dennis

Do you believe for one second that if Lincoln were alive today he would be a Republican, not on your life.

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Aug 5, 2014 11:10:31   #
dljen Loc: Central PA
 
Cykdelic wrote:
Hey, Donna:

Could you link to all these quotes where elected Republicans have demanded we shoot innocent little children? I'd be interested in that data.


Hey Cy, I didn't say elected officials, you added that. Google the "patriots" that showed up at the border w/ guns.

The only elected official doing something is Rick Perry. He assigned his National Guard at the border and so the refugees can go up to them and surrender just like they do the border patrol. It's only symbolic, they have no power.

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Aug 5, 2014 11:17:01   #
marblclear Loc: Sacramento CA
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Just like the Civil rights bill Johnson turned to the republicans because without them he would have not been able to pass the bill, if you look at the voting tally's, the republicans give stronger support to Johnson's civil rights legislation than did the democrats.


Indeed, you are full of yourself as are most liberals so full of yourself that you think that you are deserving of history that is not your own.... but believe me, we want you to keep your ACA.... we want nothing to do with it.
Just like the Civil rights bill Johnson turned to ... (show quote)


Well blurry you're at it again. If Lincoln were alive today he would be ashamed to be a republican and just ask any history teacher, high school , college and anybody with a brain In their head which you have proved over and over again that you don't. You know you really are an arrogant jack a..! And I suspect your brain is as small as all the pictures of those insects you take. You are completely incapable of having an open minded conversation even if your life depended on it.

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Aug 5, 2014 11:19:15   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
Charlie44 wrote:
Actually, in states like Minnesota, New York and California, that fully implemented the Affordable Care Act, and set up their own exchanges, insurance rates have declined significantly, as much as 20% after decades of double-digit increases. Should a family with a child who is born with a congenital birth defect be forever precluded from health insurance because of a per-existing condition. That would make as much sense as saying if someone back-ends your car you shouldn't be able to by auto insurance.

Under the ACA, health insurance is, in-fact, more portable and provides more options for coverage than insurance through an employer that is limited to a particular provider or network. As for your suggestion that limiting the amount of profit insurance companies can make to 20% doesn't seem all that outrageous. Most companies are delighted with a 5% profit on their investment, there are limits on how much credit card companies can charge and electricity rates are subject to regulation by public service commissions, is that communism? The SEC regulates the sale of stock, our highways have speed limits and states require that you have a license and insurance if you drive a car. Communism? I don't think so.
Actually, in states like Minnesota, New York and C... (show quote)



Nope! No decline at all.

"statewide weighted average came in at 4.2 percent and, according to Covered California,"

Also, you are confused about numbers. The 20% is not profits....it's the amount the carriers can use for all costs AND profits.

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Aug 5, 2014 11:19:25   #
marblclear Loc: Sacramento CA
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Again, more brainwashed democrat lies.... You should know better Nagy, and if you don't you are foolish, something that I would have never characterized you as before having read this.


You're the one who needs to get your facts together, you just constantly spew nothing but venom and crap!

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Aug 5, 2014 11:20:52   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
Charlie44 wrote:
Actually, in states like Minnesota, New York and California, that fully implemented the Affordable Care Act, and set up their own exchanges, insurance rates have declined significantly, as much as 20% after decades of double-digit increases. Should a family with a child who is born with a congenital birth defect be forever precluded from health insurance because of a per-existing condition. That would make as much sense as saying if someone back-ends your car you shouldn't be able to by auto insurance.

Under the ACA, health insurance is, in-fact, more portable and provides more options for coverage than insurance through an employer that is limited to a particular provider or network. As for your suggestion that limiting the amount of profit insurance companies can make to 20% doesn't seem all that outrageous. Most companies are delighted with a 5% profit on their investment, there are limits on how much credit card companies can charge and electricity rates are subject to regulation by public service commissions, is that communism? The SEC regulates the sale of stock, our highways have speed limits and states require that you have a license and insurance if you drive a car. Communism? I don't think so.
Actually, in states like Minnesota, New York and C... (show quote)

Car insurance is to protect the guy you hit, that is known as liability. You are not required to have collision insurance. Home owner insurance is not legally required by the state only the mortgage company to protect their investment. You have the right to be stupid with your own house. The ACA is a takeover of 20% of the economy and it is not beneficial to it.

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Aug 5, 2014 11:20:56   #
rocketride Loc: Upstate NY
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Just like the Civil rights bill Johnson turned to the republicans because without them he would have not been able to pass the bill, if you look at the voting tally's, the republicans give stronger support to Johnson's civil rights legislation than did the democrats.


Indeed, you are full of yourself as are most liberals so full of yourself that you think that you are deserving of history that is not your own.... but believe me, we want you to keep your ACA.... we want nothing to do with it.
Just like the Civil rights bill Johnson turned to ... (show quote)


Go ahead, take all of the "credit" for the "Affordable" "Care" Act. That steaming pile is all yours.

When Pelosi said they would have to pass it before we could see what was in it, I prepared to look for undigested corn.

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