Mirrorless Camera Question
Jul 31, 2014 09:48:17 #
Gregger wrote:
With the mirrorless cameras are they top heavy and difficult to use with anything a lets say 50mm lens? I noticed on eBay a seller is selling his for this very reason. It the cameras are to be light doesn't placing a lens that is over 6cm
defeat the purpose of having a small, lighter camera?
defeat the purpose of having a small, lighter camera?
Though I have limited experience, I have the Sony a6000 w/ the 55 m lense. I do not find it top heavy at all, nor does my wife.
Jul 31, 2014 09:57:35 #
MT Shooter wrote:
The only 12-40mm I know off the top of my head is the Olympus M4/3's F2.8, a very nice lens. It would be a little bit large on the Pen bodies, but not so much so on the OM-D series of bodies.
This is the very combination I used this month on our holidays: the body the OM-D E-M1.
Absolutely no problem carrying the camera (even with the Olympus strap, although that will be replaced soon), or taking photos.
I had taken my 4/3 50-200 and 4/3-M4/3 adapter as well, which would have been very heavy and awkward, but ended up not using that one at all.
The photos I took, where I would have liked to zoom in a bit more than the 12-40mm is capable of, I have now cropped to what I wanted, with no loss of quality for the print size I wanted.
As far as "jitters" go: age, arthritis in my knees and being somewhat unsteady on my feet don't help, but the photos still came out tack-sharp.
Jul 31, 2014 10:06:15 #
Hi Gregger,
I have had two Olympus M43, an EPL-1 and now an EPL-5. I used to have a 12-50mm zoom but the image quality was disappointing so I sold it and now have a Pansonic 14-45mm zoom and two primes, a Sigma 17mm and Sigma 30mm.
I use the 17mm mostly and the 1445 zoom as required, the 45mm zoom is ample for me as I don't use a tripod, so shake is not a problem for at 45mm.
Cheers,
John.
I have had two Olympus M43, an EPL-1 and now an EPL-5. I used to have a 12-50mm zoom but the image quality was disappointing so I sold it and now have a Pansonic 14-45mm zoom and two primes, a Sigma 17mm and Sigma 30mm.
I use the 17mm mostly and the 1445 zoom as required, the 45mm zoom is ample for me as I don't use a tripod, so shake is not a problem for at 45mm.
Cheers,
John.
Jul 31, 2014 10:19:15 #
I have been "dreaming" about that combination ... :)
joer wrote:
Everyone has preferences.
I use several cameras and a variety of lenses including a D800E mounted with a 300mm f/2.8 and 14E TC. Talk about top heavy if you try to hold the camera.
When lenses go beyond a certain size you hold the lens not the camera much like on a tripod with lens collar.
Its just a matter of common sense.
I use a Olympus EM 1 and the 12-40mm f/2.8. What a dream combination.
Edit: Perhaps this is the smart phone mentality.
I use several cameras and a variety of lenses including a D800E mounted with a 300mm f/2.8 and 14E TC. Talk about top heavy if you try to hold the camera.
When lenses go beyond a certain size you hold the lens not the camera much like on a tripod with lens collar.
Its just a matter of common sense.
I use a Olympus EM 1 and the 12-40mm f/2.8. What a dream combination.
Edit: Perhaps this is the smart phone mentality.
Jul 31, 2014 10:27:11 #
Gregger wrote:
If I were younger and had stout arms and hands maybe I wouldn't be so concerned about it. I may give it a try. After all it's only money. I was going to get the em5 after ruling out the E-P5. I have read the Jpegs are fantastic on a OMD1.
Then I decided on the em5 after reading a comparison between the em5 and the em1.
Then I decided on the em5 after reading a comparison between the em5 and the em1.
A great deal depends on how you hold the camera. Way too many people today hold the camera way out in front of them; in that position, your arm muscles are supporting the weight of the camera, and your wrists are resisting the torque from the lens wanting to follow gravity downward. In other words, physics is against you, and you will feel a need for stouter, more muscular arms and wrists.
The more traditional pose is more effective in dealing with gravity. If you hold the viewfinder (optical or EVF) up to your eye, the camera will be touching your head, which will provide a little extra stability. Your arms are in a vertical position, so the weight is borne by your arm bones (not muscles). If you hold the lens with your left hand (as suggested by Frank W), your arm bone is also resisting the torque created by the lens, relieving your wrists of that pull [of course, in the olde days, we had to hold the lens in case we needed to adjust the focus, but now you can do it just because it works well]. I create additional stability by planting my elbows against my body.
Jul 31, 2014 10:27:41 #
For a really great mirror less-pick up a Sony new 3 used with the midrange zoom-or the 16mm prime-which makes it more portable. It is very sharp, but no viewfinder-which keeps it small. I have an epl1 Oly 14 42 and love the pics outside-it's a bit weaker inside in low light etc. Check the pics on flkr on both of these-they are sharp!
Jul 31, 2014 10:37:26 #
rehess wrote:
A great deal depends on how you hold the camera. ... (show quote)
I didn't even think about that: I will not buy a camera without a viewfinder that I can bring up to my eye.
The only time I use the monitor screen as a viewfinder, is with the camera on a tripod, table or some such support, then have the screen tilted to I can still see it properly, and with the button-end of a remote cable in my hand. All that in an effort to not have the grandkids notice I am taking photos of them ;-)
PS - I don't know what went wrong here: I DID click the Quote Reply button, but as you can see, it did not quote properly.
Jul 31, 2014 10:50:37 #
amehta
Loc: Boston
Morning Star wrote:
PS - I don't know what went wrong here: I DID click the Quote Reply button, but as you can see, it did not quote properly.
When people use a square bracket inside their post, it messes things up for the next person quoting them. It looks weird sometimes, but I use {} or <> now if I need something other than ().
Jul 31, 2014 11:00:18 #
I am late in years myself, and I don't find using my Sony NEX is a problem. Check out the Sony lenses and others with an e-mount; they are reduced in size(not quality) to balance the overall feel and reduce size overall. On the plus side, I love the reduced size, and the quality of photos is stunning.Lots of advanced features in-camera, most will go through a learning curve to use them effectively. Remember, you are learning the most advanced technology out there- worth the time and effort. Only drawback is using the LED screen on sunny days- pitiful! there are products to clip over the LED, probably need to get one. I heartily recommend visiting a good camera outlet and playing with mirrorless cameras to see which appeals to you. Good Hunting!
Jul 31, 2014 11:01:47 #
amehta wrote:
When people use a square bracket inside their post, it messes things up for the next person quoting them. It looks weird sometimes, but I use {} or <> now if I need something other than ().
Thanks, amehta! I didn't even notice the square brackets in the text... fixed it!
Rehess - I apologize for "messing" with your text.
Jul 31, 2014 11:52:47 #
I have the OMD - E-M1 and the 12-40 lens is my favorite but I also like the 14-150 zoom and the Panny 20mm. I'm 85 and there is absolutely no problem in hoilding these combinations.
Jul 31, 2014 12:08:18 #
Morning Star wrote:
Thanks, amehta! I didn't even notice the square brackets in the text... fixed it!
Rehess - I apologize for "messing" with your text.
Rehess - I apologize for "messing" with your text.
Don't apologize to me ... as a computer professional I should have realized that I was creating problems ... I just wanted a different look to a different type of parenthetical expression; I'll try to remember to use {} next time.
Jul 31, 2014 12:35:28 #
Thank you for letting me know that the 12-50 is lighter.
Truly appreciated. From your photo I am possibly twenty years older than yourself. My hands get shaky using larger lenses. This is why I purchased the Panasonic F200 bridge camera two years ago. It is a great camera, but I wanted a good mirrorless and the OMD 1 seems to be the best presently. I had read two sellers on eBay selling theirs for the 12-40 made the camera top heavy. Your advice has given me hope in getting this camera once again.
Truly appreciated. From your photo I am possibly twenty years older than yourself. My hands get shaky using larger lenses. This is why I purchased the Panasonic F200 bridge camera two years ago. It is a great camera, but I wanted a good mirrorless and the OMD 1 seems to be the best presently. I had read two sellers on eBay selling theirs for the 12-40 made the camera top heavy. Your advice has given me hope in getting this camera once again.
Jul 31, 2014 13:11:03 #
ottopj wrote:
Go try one yourself rather than basing your decision on one person's comment. You certainly could stand in the store for 20-30 minutes with the camera/lens combination in question and see if it works or does not work for you.
Hard part is finding a store that near you that carries the higher end mirrorless cameras (other than bh video and adorama).
Jul 31, 2014 13:13:41 #
Gregger, if you live near me I'd be more than happy to let you come up and test my em1.
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