Another good reason not to shop at Target
Jul 3, 2014 09:37:38 #
Samuraiz wrote:
Some just park theirs outside. :D
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Kinda hard to drive your Hummer down those narrow aisles!
Jul 3, 2014 09:37:55 #
dljen wrote:
The NRA spoke out about this calling it weird. When these gun owners read this they cut up their NRA membership cards. The NRA panicked releasing a statement rescinding their first press release. This has been going on. Pitiful.
Oh my God those pics are really scary!!! NOT... More lib b/s!
Jul 3, 2014 09:40:58 #
And now we have the stalwart supporters of their particular interpretation of the 2nd Amendment having to deal with the sacred doctrine of property rights! Looks like doctrinaire libertarians have a problem in reconciling this. :lol:
Jul 3, 2014 09:41:47 #
djenrette wrote:
If Florida we can shoot people who carry guns openly. The stand-your-ground law lets you respond with deadly force if you FEEL threatened ---AND you get to decide if you are threatened or not-- if someone walks into a store with an openly displayed weapon, I am sure I might feel threatened. Wouldn't you? Policemen often shoot people who look like they might have a gun. This problem will solve itself.
Yeah!! Let's see how that stands up in court, Stand Your Ground or not.
Jul 3, 2014 09:42:49 #
sirlensalot
Loc: Arizona
djenrette wrote:
If Florida we can shoot people who carry guns openly. The stand-your-ground law lets you respond with deadly force if you FEEL threatened ---AND you get to decide if you are threatened or not-- if someone walks into a store with an openly displayed weapon, I am sure I might feel threatened. Wouldn't you? Policemen often shoot people who look like they might have a gun. This problem will solve itself.
I think your interpretation is a bit extreme and would in most cases award the perp either prison time or a lethal injection. Laws like these are designed to offer protection if there is no alternative or means of extracting yourself from harms way. It sounds like you have a bit of a chip on your shoulder and are looking for excuses to use lethal force. I hope I am wrong.
Jul 3, 2014 09:45:10 #
Budnjax wrote:
not only will they not protect your credit card information....now they don't want you to be able to protect yourself in their stores...
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2014/07/target_bans_guns_in_stores_says_firearms_arent_family-friendly.html
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2014/07/target_bans_guns_in_stores_says_firearms_arent_family-friendly.html
As a gun owner: Thumbs up for Target. Notice that Targets bans smoking in the store also.
Jul 3, 2014 09:45:18 #
It is usually the folks that insist on coloring out of the line that garner the media attention I personally do not know a gun owner/CCW permit holder that supports this type of behavior. In addition, this foolish behavior is only an issue in areas where open carry of a long rifle is considered legal. I am a 2nd amendment supporter, CCW holder and I support Target's position in this matter. The member list of the NRA continues to grow on a daily basis. I would be happier if the NRA spoke out about open carry of rifles.
Jul 3, 2014 09:49:59 #
silver wrote:
You started this by complaining about others making comments about posts here. Can you be that dense to think that others will not respond to what you say. You are not the only hair on the head here. "behave yourself", as shut up it sounds like. You seem to feel superior to other people here.
I forgot that liberals, especially ignorant ones, have "NO" sense of humor! But then I wouldn't either if my "Supreme Leader" and comrade had just been voted worst president in the last seventy years! In all fairness I have to admit to some ignorance on my part as well! For the life of me I can't understandd why these worthless republicans don't have the cahones to impeach the literal and figurative SOB!
Jul 3, 2014 09:54:34 #
Gnslngr wrote:
If you live in a city, state, or country where you feel the need to arm yourself merely to feel safe, you're doing your loved ones a disservice. You need to move, immediately, to a city, state or country where you can put down your weapon occasionally. :thumbup:
I generally feel safe while out but I am prepared for the once in a lifetime possibility where I may encounter someone who wishes to do me harm. If someone kicks in my door in the middle of the night what would you have me do? Having the ability should the need ever arise to defend my family is not a disservice but an honor for me. I would rather be ready than wishing I was....how about you? Thanks for your input. 8-)
Jul 3, 2014 09:57:04 #
dljen wrote:
The NRA spoke out about this calling it weird. When these gun owners read this they cut up their NRA membership cards. The NRA panicked releasing a statement rescinding their first press release. This has been going on. Pitiful.
dljen, what is it with you and the NRA? They are not on this forum and do not see your post. Most of us who do see your post disagree with you and are most likely members themselves. The NRA is citizens just like us who have elected leaders to help us keep the government off our backs. They speak for us. It is like have most of the United States going against you.
You still do not know or understand what the OCT group is about or what it is that they are protesting. The NRA has their backs but do not approve of their methods. Can you understand that?
The Right to Open Carry (hand guns) in Texas...
Jul 3, 2014 10:02:41 #
bleary
Loc: MA
Protect yourself from what? A shootout in the toilet paper section? If you people who want to walk around with guns all the time actually think you have any reasonable probability of being shot in ordinary retail establishments, then I feel sorry for you. Maybe in a high crime area you might be justified, but certainly not in ordinary places. I think it's more likely you just want to act tough and show off. However, there are some people who just have short fuses and giving them a gun is just asking for trouble. I don't feel like being threatened if I accidentally cut in front of someone or do something else to piss them off, so if I walked into a place and saw a customer with a rifle over his shoulder I would leave. Target is 100% right in not wanting their customers to feel uncomfortable shopping there. If you NEED a gun to go to a department store then that is truly pathetic. There are loads of things you can do legally but that doesn't mean you should do them.
Jul 3, 2014 10:04:05 #
dljen wrote:
Are you allowed to carry even if a business says no?
Yes in our state (Missouri) they cannot stop you however they can ask you to leave their place of business which I would do. One of the main points of CCW is not to show in any form that you are in possession of a firearm. Missouri mandates that if you lifted up your shirt to show someone that you were armed that constitutes a class 4 felony. 8-)
Jul 3, 2014 10:05:23 #
I'm offering no opinion whatsoever on US gun laws, it's not my business but I did have a chuckle when I saw that picture and wondered what would happen if a couple of girls arrived like that in one of our big stores. In about five minutes armed police would arrive and the ladies would be explaining to a judge who would be deciding how long to jail them for.
As I say I'm not offering an opinion so don't shout at me.
As I say I'm not offering an opinion so don't shout at me.
Jul 3, 2014 10:09:44 #
bleary wrote:
Protect yourself from what? A shootout in the toil... (show quote)
Tell that to those people who were only enjoying a meal:
On October 16, 1991, 35-year-old George Pierre "Jo Jo" Hennard, an unemployed merchant mariner or able seaman who was described by others as angry and withdrawn, with a dislike of women, drove his blue 1987 Ford Ranger pickup truck through the front window of a Luby's Cafeteria at 1705 East Central Texas Expressway in Killeen. Yelling "This is what Bell County did to me! This is payback day!", Hennard then opened fire on its patrons and staff with a Glock 17 pistol and, later, a Ruger P89. He stalked, shot, and killed 23 people, ten of them with a single shot to the head,[3] and wounded another 20 before committing suicide. Approximately 140 people were in the restaurant at the time.
The first victim was local veterinarian Michael Griffith, 48, who ran to the driver's side of the pickup truck to offer assistance to the driver after the truck crashed through the window. Hennard also approached 32-year-old Suzanna Hupp and her parents. Hupp reached for her .38 revolver in her purse, only to remember she had left it in her vehicle to comply with the law. Texas law at the time required that concealed carry was not allowed in "public places". Her father Al, 71, rushed at Hennard in an attempt to subdue him but was fatally shot in the chest. A short time later, as Hupp was escaping, her mother Ursula, 67, was shot in the head and killed as she cradled her wounded husband.
During the incident, Hennard allowed a woman and her four-year-old child to leave. Another patron, Tommy Vaughn, threw himself through a plate-glass window, sustaining injuries, but by doing so he created an escape route for himself and other customers.
Hennard reloaded several times and still had ammunition remaining, trading fire with and being wounded by a responding police officer. The incident ended when he committed suicide by shooting himself in the head.
You never know when or where. If you don't care to defend yourself that is your right and I respect that. On the other hand I will defend myself & the lives of my family as that is my right also. Your statement about people like myself wanting to "act tough or show off" is one of the most stupid statements made on this forum I've ever seen and I resent you implying that...you don't know me therefore don't apply your generalizations to someone you know nothing about! :hunf:
Jul 3, 2014 10:09:51 #
It seems to me that these people, who think that open carry is the way to go, haven't got their money's worth from their training.
First, in any confrontation the element of surprise is extremely valuble. So much so that it will affect the outcome to the benefit of the person employing it.
Second, most of these people displaying their weapon(s) for all to see will be the first targets of any shooter in the store.
Third, given that they are displaying their lack of tactical knowlege, they probably have never been shot at... when it all goes down you will see them puking and peeing themselves before taking a round or two.
I have no faith in these "show offs" with regard to my own safety. They'll most likely be throwing rounds in every direction!
First, in any confrontation the element of surprise is extremely valuble. So much so that it will affect the outcome to the benefit of the person employing it.
Second, most of these people displaying their weapon(s) for all to see will be the first targets of any shooter in the store.
Third, given that they are displaying their lack of tactical knowlege, they probably have never been shot at... when it all goes down you will see them puking and peeing themselves before taking a round or two.
I have no faith in these "show offs" with regard to my own safety. They'll most likely be throwing rounds in every direction!
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