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Jun 15, 2014 23:59:03   #
rick Loc: Cape Cod, MA
 
gmcase wrote:
I clearly stated I am not qualified to give detailed answers but it is not up to me. It is up to the purveyors of the story to provide the details that are believable. The free fall speed is specious at best. Try thinking. It may be painful at first but you'll survive.


Bs you phony. You know who it is so tell us. You do not have all the answers you pretend to have and not know who. You are afraid to say it. Come on wimp.

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Jun 16, 2014 00:03:19   #
gmcase Loc: Galt's Gulch
 
rick wrote:
Bs you phony. You know who it is so tell us. You do not have all the answers you pretend to have and not know who. You are afraid to say it. Come on wimp.


I think you are just trying to bait people into engaging you and your silly rants. You may be a master baiter elsewhere but I don't think your baiting will fly here.

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Jun 16, 2014 00:27:43   #
rick Loc: Cape Cod, MA
 
gmcase wrote:
I think you are just trying to bait people into engaging you and your silly rants. You may be a master baiter elsewhere but I don't think your baiting will fly here.


That is a very gracious way of bowing out of answering a direct question you have the answer to. I am really curious to hear who you presume did it, but even more curious why you for some reason refuse to answer, and accuse me of baiting?

I do not know, but it sounds odd to me. I'm just sayin...

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Jun 16, 2014 01:24:13   #
gmcase Loc: Galt's Gulch
 
rick wrote:
That is a very gracious way of bowing out of answering a direct question you have the answer to. I am really curious to hear who you presume did it, but even more curious why you for some reason refuse to answer, and accuse me of baiting?

I do not know, but it sounds odd to me. I'm just sayin...


I should know better than to answer but here it is.

I really don't know how the buildings came down at free fall speeds and the official story of pancaking as the dynamics of collapse bring the possibility of free fall speed of the collapses into even more of an unbelievable explanation. Beyond that I cannot say who, why or how but the free fall speed defies the official story. In order for those buildings to come down at free fall speeds pancaking was not the dynamic force as it would slow the collapse speed at least until enough mass and speed was generated from a large number of upper stories. If you look at the acceleration curves of the collapses it makes the pancake story seem silly.

Now, there may be a perfectly logical and science based explanation that hasn't surfaced and doesn't require conspiracy components but until then all I am saying is that the official story is unbelievable. I am not responsible for the official story nor is the burden on me to provide alternative stories. All I know is the free fall speed of 3 building collapses is highly suspicious when explained by pancaking. Nothing more, nothing less.

If that makes me a pussy in your twisted thinking and world somehow then so be it. I have logical reasons to doubt the official story and feel no responsibility to provide alternative stories. I want the official story to be realistic and convincing not to mention truthful and that is not the case in my opinion.

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Jun 16, 2014 08:47:00   #
larrypayne Loc: Texas Hill Country
 
gmcase wrote:
I should know better than to answer but here it is.

I really don't know how the buildings came down at free fall speeds and the official story of pancaking as the dynamics of collapse bring the possibility of free fall speed of the collapses into even more of an unbelievable explanation. Beyond that I cannot say who, why or how but the free fall speed defies the official story. In order for those buildings to come down at free fall speeds pancaking was not the dynamic force as it would slow the collapse speed at least until enough mass and speed was generated from a large number of upper stories. If you look at the acceleration curves of the collapses it makes the pancake story seem silly.

Now, there may be a perfectly logical and science based explanation that hasn't surfaced and doesn't require conspiracy components but until then all I am saying is that the official story is unbelievable. I am not responsible for the official story nor is the burden on me to provide alternative stories. All I know is the free fall speed of 3 building collapses is highly suspicious when explained by pancaking. Nothing more, nothing less.

If that makes me a pussy in your twisted thinking and world somehow then so be it. I have logical reasons to doubt the official story and feel no responsibility to provide alternative stories. I want the official story to be realistic and convincing not to mention truthful and that is not the case in my opinion.
I should know better than to answer but here it is... (show quote)


The obvious demolition of the towers was only part of the strong evidence revealing 9/11 was an inside job.

General Albert Stubblebine, member of the U.S. Army Intelligence Hall of Fame, says no plane hit the Pentagon: http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-191908-1.html.

There was a complete military stand down on 9/11 for the hour-and-a-half the attacks were taking place.

The Bush administration attempted to avoid an investigation of the worst crime in American history. Only by the dogged persistence of a group of victims wives were they forced into appointing the 9/11 Commission. Bush instructed the Commission not to investigate to determine who was behind the attacks but to determine how this type of attack could be avoided in the future. Bush and Cheney refused to testify under oath to the Commission members they had hand picked themselves. They demanded to testify together behind closed doors with no record of their testimony recorded.

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Jun 16, 2014 08:48:09   #
larrypayne Loc: Texas Hill Country
 
rick wrote:
Pussy.


Traitor.

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Jun 16, 2014 09:22:09   #
TrainNut Loc: Ridin' the rails
 
rick wrote:
Not the question I asked. Are you afraid to answer, or do you not know the answer because ther is no answer?


I do not know who did it but the "official" story does not hold up.

Do you believe that our defenses were really that bad?
After the first tower was hit everyone would know this was not a drill.

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Jun 16, 2014 09:57:36   #
amadjuster Loc: Amarillo, TX
 
larrypayne wrote:
The obvious demolition of the towers was only part of the strong evidence revealing 9/11 was an inside job.

General Albert Stubblebine, member of the U.S. Army Intelligence Hall of Fame, says no plane hit the Pentagon: http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-191908-1.html.

There was a complete military stand down on 9/11 for the hour-and-a-half the attacks were taking place.

The Bush administration attempted to avoid an investigation of the worst crime in American history. Only by the dogged persistence of a group of pvictims wives were they forced into appointing the 9/11 Commission. Bush instructed the Commission not to investigate to determine who was behind the attacks but to determine how this type of attack could be avoided in the future. Bush and Cheney refused to testify under oath to the Commission members they had hand picked themselves. They demanded to testify together behind closed doors with no record of their testimony recorded.
The obvious demolition of the towers was only part... (show quote)


You use the term obvious as if this was a proven fact. It was obvious, in your opinion. Your link on Gen. Stubblebine doesn't work. Also, there were eyewitnesses who saw the plane and Stubblebine didn't.

You will never be satisfied.

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Jun 16, 2014 10:10:38   #
larrypayne Loc: Texas Hill Country
 
amadjuster wrote:
You use the term obvious as if this was a proven fact. It was obvious, in your opinion. Your link on Gen. Stubblebine doesn't work. Also, there were eyewitnesses who saw the plane and Stubblebine didn't.

You will never be satisfied.


Try this link to the Stubblebine interview:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=71c_1311362426

I'll be satisfied when the world knows the truth about 9/11 and the perpetrators receive the punishment they deserve.

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Jun 16, 2014 10:24:43   #
Penny MG Loc: Fresno, Texas
 
larrypayne wrote:
Only one thumbs-up, emoticon-speaking mouseketeer?

Maybe you could have said it better, if only you could speak.


Oh Larry, I know you've been on the site long enough to know that gunslinger can speak quite well for himself. Though we don't agree on everything, He is not lacking in education and the ability to bring forth a good conversation.

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Jun 16, 2014 10:25:25   #
Penny MG Loc: Fresno, Texas
 
TrainNut wrote:
"You might go a little farther in showing the common sense which informs intelligent people that normal fires can't melt steel."

Having worked in the tool and die business for over 40 years I am very aware as to what it takes to melt and weaken steel.
The towers were hit off center so the side that they were hit on would have gone down first.
Anyone who has watched building demolitions knows that it takes very precise timing to bring a building straight down.

It helps to educate yourself rather that just believe what you are told.
"You might go a little farther in showing the... (show quote)


good reply!
:thumbup: :thumbup:

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Jun 16, 2014 10:25:34   #
Croce Loc: Earth
 
rick wrote:
I agree with all of that. You are not qualified, you are intelligent enough to draw some sort of half assed conclusion (just barely), you are at a loss, and your opinion is just that, bullshit subject to nothing. Croce, I think for the first time you and I are on the same page. Thanks for the update.


Troll by his own definition. Post is non substantive, therefore unworthy of reply. Poster dismissed as irrelevant being.

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Jun 16, 2014 10:28:55   #
Penny MG Loc: Fresno, Texas
 
Croce wrote:
He is just a troll. Has no real position, calls everyone leftists and rightists alike, ignorant, uninformed, bigoted, racist, etc etc. Do you think he is really old sarg in disguise. In his menial mind only he is correct and fair handed. Take it easy Phil.


don't think he is ole sarg in disguise as ole sarg has yet to post anything intelligent....he just attacks the poster and moves on.
:thumbdown:

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Jun 16, 2014 10:32:47   #
Penny MG Loc: Fresno, Texas
 
gmcase wrote:
Why do you hang around cesspools fishing?

I do discriminate against certain things and I admit it freely. For example, I am a culturist, one who discriminates against certain cultures. My discrimination is based on whether a culture is beneficial, moral and improves the subscriber's lives therefore on facts not blind discrimination. Two shining examples of cultures gone bad, and for the most part destructive to those who imbibe, are the cannibal culture and modern black culture in America. Another is some of the cultures associated with towels on their heads. Obviously not all within those cultures are violent and evil but many are and their culture breeds destruction. The evidence is indisputable. If you want to criticize me do so for what I clearly state and not your misguided accusations.
Why do you hang around cesspools fishing? br br I... (show quote)


Well stated. :thumbup:

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Jun 16, 2014 10:32:47   #
Croce Loc: Earth
 
rick wrote:
Btw Croce, lest it seem like I am singling you out, it is just that the rest are so bat shit crazy you seem to be the only one with a chance of saving. I mean to be honest the chances are slim to none but you are still our best option. Keep looking deep within, you might surprise yourself (and me).


Troll by his own definition. Post is non substantive, therefore unworthy of reply. Poster dismissed as irrelevant being.

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