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Jun 3, 2014 10:31:12   #
FPGear
 
f8lee wrote:
Welcome, Mr. Fliger - perhaps you can dispel the worries (that have been mentioned elsewhere as well as in this thread) about using the camera's threaded tripod socket as a mounting point for a strap support.

Is it possible that camera bodies made of plastic are susceptible to the possibility of the tripod mount failing when the camera is hung from it? I've been using BlackRapid and RRS plates for a long time and never had a problem, but it seems some folks are concerned (or convinced) that this is a bad idea.
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To be honest I can not confirm nor deny if there are issues. I have heard stories of people having issues but I personally have not seen much in the way of proof. personally I carry a Canon 7D with a 24-70 as my main rig (and not a very light one coming in at about 5lbs). I have not seen any issues in term of signs of wear.

I think we all have to remember that the gear is durable but repeated abuse or misuse can cause anything to fail. for example I would not recommend just dropping your camera down and letting the strap catch it. I could see if someone were in the habit of doing this, continual jerking on the tripod mount could cause some issues.

I do get asked lots of questions about the strength of our Fusion Plate. We have put a lot of effort into engineering a very strong reliable product. We have done extensive testing during the development of the Fusion Plate to ensure we were bringing to market a product we could be proud of.

I was working remotely for my other post so I thought I would take this opportunity to also post a couple photos of our Fusion Plate.


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Jun 3, 2014 10:39:45   #
abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
 
FPGear wrote:
To be honest I can not confirm nor deny if there are issues. I have heard stories of people having issues but I personally have not seen much in the way of proof. personally I carry a Canon 7D with a 24-70 as my main rig (and not a very light one coming in at about 5lbs). I have not seen any issues in term of signs of wear.

I think we all have to remember that the gear is durable but repeated abuse or misuse can cause anything to fail. for example I would not recommend just dropping your camera down and letting the strap catch it. I could see if someone were in the habit of doing this, continual jerking on the tripod mount could cause some issues.

I do get asked lots of questions about the strength of our Fusion Plate. We have put a lot of effort into engineering a very strong reliable product. We have done extensive testing during the development of the Fusion Plate to ensure we were bringing to market a product we could be proud of.

I was working remotely for my other post so I thought I would take this opportunity to also post a couple photos of our Fusion Plate.
To be honest I can not confirm nor deny if there a... (show quote)


That being the case, will you guarantee the camera against failure in light of the fact that neither Canon nor Nikon advise using the tripod screw for anything other than the tripod?

As you very well know, a chain is as strong as its weakest link.

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Jun 3, 2014 10:45:25   #
peterg Loc: Santa Rosa, CA
 
abc1234 wrote:
That being the case, will you guarantee the camera against failure in light of the fact that neither Canon nor Nikon advise using the tripod screw for anything other than the tripod?
Nikon now has a strap based on the Black Rapid ( http://www.nikon.com/news/2014/0225_strap_03.htm ). Sounds pretty close to an endorsement to me.

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Jun 3, 2014 10:56:26   #
abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
 
peterg wrote:
Nikon now has a strap based on the Black Rapid ( http://www.nikon.com/news/2014/0225_strap_03.htm ). Sounds pretty close to an endorsement to me.


It certainly creates the appearance of one but I would rather have them specifically and directly address the issue. They may be selling that model to boost sales and may not have your best interests in mind. I would not be as cynical as to suggest they are greedy but they are in the business to make money.

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Jun 3, 2014 12:23:39   #
BigD Loc: The LEFT Coast
 
LaurenT wrote:
I'm hoping that someone can help me with information for a device that will allow me to be able attach my cross body Black Rapid Sling, as well as my tripod mount.

I have a Sirui G10-KX ball head on my tripod, with the TY-50x quick release plate. I also have the Women's Black Rapid cross body sling which comes with a ConnectoR-2 and a FastenR-3.

My problem is that I cannot find a way to use both, without having to constantly screw and unscrew one or the other. I have even considered attaching the strap to the ring on the tripod quick release plate, however, the ConnectoR-2 won't fit it. Black Rapid offers a tripod fastener, however, it only fits a Manfrotto head. (I tried it anyway, and it's too thick).

Has anyone else had this problem, and found an answer?
I'm hoping that someone can help me with informati... (show quote)


I was going to recommend the FastenR T but you already tried it.

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Jun 3, 2014 12:34:12   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
Mogul wrote:
The BR will also work with the M-Plate Pro, an almost universal mount:

http://www.blackrapid.com/products/m-plate-pro


A nice plate - but not at that price !

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Jun 3, 2014 14:15:55   #
LaurenT Loc: Northern California
 
imagemeister wrote:
A nice plate - but not at that price !


Thank you everyone for your help. I could never have found all of these recommendations and testimonials on my own. I have ordered two items, and should they not prove satisfactory, I have several others from here to try also.

Thanks Again!

:D

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Jun 3, 2014 15:20:38   #
abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
 
I decided I did not want to have any worries about my Black Rapid strap pulling out the tripod socket so I ordered the BosStrap BOSG315, Generation 3 Sliding Sling Strap, from B&H this morning. It attaches to the lug which is built for hanging the camera. They shipped it in three hours! How about that for service. I did not expect it to go until after the holiday on Friday.

Thank you B&H and have a nice holiday.

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Jun 3, 2014 15:32:20   #
DavidInTX Loc: Dallas, TX
 
From Page 23 of the manual that came with my AF-S NIKKOR 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR II Lens:

Be careful not to hold the camera body when the lens is attached, as this may cause damage to the camera (lens mount). Be sure to hold both the lens and camera when carrying.

This is what prompted me to remove the neck strap supplied with the camera and get the Black Rapid strap - then I attached the strap to the lens so the lens supports weight of the camera (and I'm making a big assumption that doing so is OK).. The neck strap is too difficult to install remove so I just use the Black Rapid Strap all the time - when 70-200 lens is on camera (D800) I attach Black Rapid to the lens - when 24-70 is on camera I attach Black Rapid to camera. Have since seen/noticed numerous other's with 70-200 f2.8 lens on camera and carrying camera around with neck strap so not sure what to make of all this?

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Jun 3, 2014 15:47:23   #
f8lee Loc: New Mexico
 
DavidInTX wrote:
From Page 23 of the manual that came with my AF-S NIKKOR 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR II Lens:

Be careful not to hold the camera body when the lens is attached, as this may cause damage to the camera (lens mount). Be sure to hold both the lens and camera when carrying.

This is what prompted me to remove the neck strap supplied with the camera and get the Black Rapid strap - then I attached the strap to the lens so the lens supports weight of the camera (and I'm making a big assumption that doing so is OK).. The neck strap is too difficult to install remove so I just use the Black Rapid Strap all the time - when 70-200 lens is on camera (D800) I attach Black Rapid to the lens - when 24-70 is on camera I attach Black Rapid to camera. Have since seen/noticed numerous other's with 70-200 f2.8 lens on camera and carrying camera around with neck strap so not sure what to make of all this?
From Page 23 of the manual that came with my AF-S ... (show quote)


Exactly what I do - the larger heavier lenses (virtually all of which have their own tripod mounts) should not be left dangling from the camera body, regardless. In addition, by hanging the 70-200 (or whichever) lens upside down from its tripod foot the camera/lens combination is better balanced and easier to grab at your hip - particularly useful if you have a BR Double or similar type harness with a camera on both sides (usually one with the 24-70, the other with the 70-200).

I've had (and heard of) zero issues with bottom mounts type harnesses, but I could imagine that the plastic-bodied models could suffer if the large and heavy 24-70, for instance, were attached to the D3100 or such.

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Jun 3, 2014 15:51:47   #
abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
 
DavidInTX wrote:
From Page 23 of the manual that came with my AF-S NIKKOR 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR II Lens:

Be careful not to hold the camera body when the lens is attached, as this may cause damage to the camera (lens mount). Be sure to hold both the lens and camera when carrying.

This is what prompted me to remove the neck strap supplied with the camera and get the Black Rapid strap - then I attached the strap to the lens so the lens supports weight of the camera (and I'm making a big assumption that doing so is OK).. The neck strap is too difficult to install remove so I just use the Black Rapid Strap all the time - when 70-200 lens is on camera (D800) I attach Black Rapid to the lens - when 24-70 is on camera I attach Black Rapid to camera. Have since seen/noticed numerous other's with 70-200 f2.8 lens on camera and carrying camera around with neck strap so not sure what to make of all this?
From Page 23 of the manual that came with my AF-S ... (show quote)


I hold whichever is heavier, the lens or the body. But in any event, I would not use any strap that attaches to the tripod socket. You can read my earlier posts here as to why. Both Canon and Nikon state the tripod socket is only for that purpose while the lugs and posts on the bodies are meant for hanging. I would rather not worry.

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Jun 3, 2014 16:43:30   #
jwalker
 
My acra swift clamp came today and it doesn't work
with my tripod plate so I'll be back reading the
Posts for another solution. I didn't mind spending
The money because it was supposed to be
Very secure.

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Jun 3, 2014 16:56:47   #
abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
 
jwalker wrote:
My acra swift clamp came today and it doesn't work
with my tripod plate so I'll be back reading the
Posts for another solution. I didn't mind spending
The money because it was supposed to be
Very secure.


The problem is not with the plate. It is strong and secure enough. Do you know the old saying, "a chain is as weak as its weakest link"? Guess where the weakest link is. You might want to read my previous posts here.

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Jun 3, 2014 19:14:10   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
If you have a heavy lens with tripod collar you should be useing this - http://www.cameraclean.co.uk/product-detail.php?cat=59&product=415&desc=DeluxGear%99+Lens+Cradle - or this - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Velbon-Aluminum-Telephoto-Lens-Support-Splint-Plate-SPT-1-For-DSLR-Camera-340g-/140971397996?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20d28cd36c#ht_2620wt_1231 .........

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Jun 3, 2014 19:46:55   #
f8lee Loc: New Mexico
 


I must say, those are some weird looking rigs.

For the former (the DeluxeGear Lens Cradle), it looks like a spiderweb of easily tangled straps, and I hesitate to guess what happens if you need to swap the 70-200 or larger lens for the 24-70 or whatever...

And the latter is not meant for carrying purposes (the OPs question in the first place), though I see you don't have one set up in your own shot... you're just using the lens foot. I'd guess the Velbon unit would be useful if the camera body were really large (like a medium format or maybe even Nikon D4 size) but for regular size/weight cameras it seems a bit of overkill.

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