Gun law
May 26, 2014 10:29:44 #
patcam wrote:
I think you are missing the point, a gun is made for killing things, people animals etc, knives, scissors etc are tools
You are right about guns. But don't the Brits have guns? Don't they kill things? Don't you have hunting? How do your slaughter houses kill? How does the smaller farms kill the animals they raise and eat?
A gun is a tool too! Just because a person there uses a knife to kill a person; was that the real intent of that knife or baseball bat, or rat poison?
May 26, 2014 10:31:09 #
patcam wrote:
yes but if that nut didn't have a gun, he would not be able to pull the trigger !
Are you really naive enough to believe that another law or banning guns will keep crazy people from getting them? If you have been paying attention, you would know that the nut job in California stabbed three people to death and killed three with guns. The lethal outcome was the same for both. Where is your outrage against knives? He also ran over some people with his car. "If he did not have access to a car...". In case you haven't looked at the data, cars kill three times more people than guns. Let's ban em. Also, the number of deaths from guns has declined by 40% since 1993 while the number of guns in the hands of the public has gone up.
While you are trying to save peoples' lives, let's ban beer and liquor. Alcohol kills 85,000 people per year, almost 8 times as many as guns. Let's throw cigarettes in as well. They kill 480,000 people every year, over forty times as many as guns. While gun deaths are tragic, the anti gun zealots are going after the wrong tools if the true motive is to save lives.
May 26, 2014 10:32:09 #
ole sarg wrote:
Actually not read the comments of the parents.
Your ignorance is showing again!
Besides since Reagan stopped funding mental institutions there are very few places to lock some up and keep them there. But, boy he sure built an army we didn't need.
Your ignorance is showing again!
Besides since Reagan stopped funding mental institutions there are very few places to lock some up and keep them there. But, boy he sure built an army we didn't need.
Let me help you out on your history. The committed people were let loose during Jimmy Carter's too long term and we suddenly had homeless people everywhere. Old "Jimma" was just as effective on that as our present President is on the VA problem. Also, just about every mental hospital and facility is a State supported proposition, so how would Reagan have anything to do with them?
And finally, what I have not seen yet in this discussion (and I apologize if I missed it) it is already against the law to purchase or possess a firearm if you are being treated for a mental disorder. And just where did this guy get his firearms - no one seems to have that answer.
And - It is against the law to commit murder.
May 26, 2014 10:35:18 #
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
This argument has been debunked years ago. Six in... (show quote)
Prove your statements!
May 26, 2014 10:36:50 #
viscountdriver wrote:
Hong on there,mate.If you read my earlier post I agree we should not intefere with your gun laws but you are bringing you armed forces in and that's a different matter.We shared blood in many fields and ours is as red as yours.
You are absolutely correct Viscountdriver. WE need to get past the 1776-1781 hostilities between our nations and remember all of the mutual events that we have shared and suffered through together since 1918.
May 26, 2014 10:38:11 #
Zophman wrote:
I wonder what the result would have been if while the first victim was being brutally stabbed with a "tool" the second victim took his weapon (too bad he didn't have one) and shot the attacker? There would 5 folks still living today.
All the people would be alive today if the perp who was turned in by his parents to the police a month before, because of extreme erratic behavior, had been in a brick and mortar building, where he should have been instead of out on the streets because of political correctness.
May 26, 2014 10:38:34 #
Get over your emotion fools! It ain't GUNS FOOLS! Its YOU and YOUR utopian society, and nothing else! This is what you fools have continually voted for...FOOLS! Enjoy it! You bought it, you paid for it, now enjoy it!
Was this another horrible massacre? YES...! It was, but who, why, how the method of delivery matters not as this idiot also used a knife too! The murders not the method idiot!
Its your sick society that is the exact problem, and not guns, which never has been, nor will be, the problem when its "PEOPLE" that is the problem and NOTHING one else!
This is just another typical rant, and is to be expected, and also very typical of the liberal/socialist/progressive/communist agenda to enslave some to keep them working and keep others on welfare so the pols can stay in power!
Now, aren't you happy to be able to dance in the blood of the victims? Your ilk does it every time!
As per your stance on guns? If you don't like them don't buy them! On the other hand, you do not have any right to tell me "I" don't have a right to own one!
I have the deepest regret, sorrow and pain for these families! However, society needs to face itself on why YOU ARE SO HOSTILE TOWRADS EACH OTHER!
As per gun control? Better to be alive than dead this way! Gun control works for the pols and the useful idiots!
Gun Control? :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:
Was this another horrible massacre? YES...! It was, but who, why, how the method of delivery matters not as this idiot also used a knife too! The murders not the method idiot!
Its your sick society that is the exact problem, and not guns, which never has been, nor will be, the problem when its "PEOPLE" that is the problem and NOTHING one else!
This is just another typical rant, and is to be expected, and also very typical of the liberal/socialist/progressive/communist agenda to enslave some to keep them working and keep others on welfare so the pols can stay in power!
Now, aren't you happy to be able to dance in the blood of the victims? Your ilk does it every time!
As per your stance on guns? If you don't like them don't buy them! On the other hand, you do not have any right to tell me "I" don't have a right to own one!
I have the deepest regret, sorrow and pain for these families! However, society needs to face itself on why YOU ARE SO HOSTILE TOWRADS EACH OTHER!
As per gun control? Better to be alive than dead this way! Gun control works for the pols and the useful idiots!
Gun Control? :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:
May 26, 2014 10:43:53 #
Ares23 wrote:
Lor' luv a duck! Today we celebrate Memorial Day a tribute to aaahr fallen. I know your Country fought in many of the same wars. But today is a "Oliday to honor our Men and Women. Know what I mean? Lawd above' don't know if yew "ave a 'oliday like it., innit. Blimey but fnk yew would like someone shhotin'their mowf abaaat gun laws on a day like it. Nuff said, yeah?
Whilst I nearly appreciate your humour may I respectfully point only a tiny majority of the UK is cockney (I assume that's what you thought you were writing)and that won't last as London is being taken over by immigrants from the sub-continent.
May 26, 2014 10:49:59 #
What makes you think that ANY of the crazies or the criminal element would even consider obeying that law if there was one like that. The good guys are keeping there guns handy to defend themselves against those who would violate their person or that of their loved ones and their neighbors. "Those who beat their guns into plow shears will plow for those that don't." A true statement. Dave
May 26, 2014 10:52:22 #
viscountdriver wrote:
Whilst I nearly appreciate your humour may I respectfully point only a tiny majority of the UK is cockney (I assume that's what you thought you were writing)and that won't last as London is being taken over by immigrants from the sub-continent.
You once had them to do as you please. Miss the good old days?
May 26, 2014 10:53:09 #
Skellum0 wrote:
Disingenuous at best. 30,000 Americans are shot de... (show quote)
Where do your stats come from?
May 26, 2014 10:53:58 #
Apparently you did not read the rest of the story?
It was a demo congress that decided the fate of the mentally ill. They were the ones that put out the mentally ill on to the streets to fend for themselves! Fact! Demos were the ones that de-funded the mental institutions! Not you favorite squeeze...Regan! He just signed the bill that you demos wanted to begin with. See how it works?
Gun control is not the issue! Its people control and the very serious lack of it! Remember, you progressive/socialist/communists, just want to do what feels good to you and only and simply just because it feels good...just do it!
This society is about as sick of a society as there ever has been! And, it was you guys that put us in this predicament! Can't deny it, and can't even get out of it as this is what you have voted for for so many years. YES the Socialist Utopia! It here and its now so enjoy what you have created and at the expense of the innocent too!
Gun control?
Don't worry about nothing, let then pay...you just party! And, dance in the blood of the victim's! :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:
Society control...needs to be re-thought!
It was a demo congress that decided the fate of the mentally ill. They were the ones that put out the mentally ill on to the streets to fend for themselves! Fact! Demos were the ones that de-funded the mental institutions! Not you favorite squeeze...Regan! He just signed the bill that you demos wanted to begin with. See how it works?
Gun control is not the issue! Its people control and the very serious lack of it! Remember, you progressive/socialist/communists, just want to do what feels good to you and only and simply just because it feels good...just do it!
This society is about as sick of a society as there ever has been! And, it was you guys that put us in this predicament! Can't deny it, and can't even get out of it as this is what you have voted for for so many years. YES the Socialist Utopia! It here and its now so enjoy what you have created and at the expense of the innocent too!
Gun control?
Don't worry about nothing, let then pay...you just party! And, dance in the blood of the victim's! :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:
Society control...needs to be re-thought!
May 26, 2014 10:54:00 #
Most all of the recent mass shootings in the USA have been in "gun free zones." This shows how well laws/rules work to stop these horrible events. Now several restaurant chains (starbucks, Jack in the Box, Chipolte, etc) have declared their places of business "gun free zones." So they will not see me or most of friends buying their food.
May 26, 2014 10:58:56 #
stbg1951
Loc: Lewes, DE
ted45 wrote:
Funny, I run into visitors from England, Canada, and France all the time. They start our wary and then are pleasantly surprised to find that the U.S. isn't the wild west shoot em up depicted in the press and supported by people like you.
Also funny, I work at a public shooting range teaching beginners and experienced shooters and about 20 percent of the people I work with are from Europe. They love shooting and most wish they had ranges to shoot at home. And it's interesting most of the shootings we read about are in the states with the most stringent laws. When you have lawyers in office they do what they were trained to do, pass laws to solve everything. Laws are not the answer to this or car deaths, etc. It's teaching respect for other people. Period. People in the US today grow up learning nothing they do is their fault/responsibility. A lawyer blames someone else for letting them get into the position to speed, do drugs, or shoot. We have to start teaching personal responsibility. IMHO.
May 26, 2014 11:01:19 #
MARTYIV
Loc: On the Wabash
chapjohn wrote:
Most all of the recent mass shootings in the USA have been in "gun free zones." This shows how well laws/rules work to stop these horrible events. Now several restaurant chains (starbucks, Jack in the Box, Chipolte, etc) have declared their places of business "gun free zones." So they will not see me or most of friends buying their food.
I will continue doing business in these places. With my concealed carry permit they will never know I have a weapon.
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