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Apr 6, 2014 21:59:47   #
lighthouse Loc: No Fixed Abode
 
buffmaloney wrote:
I lived in the south many years.

I find your comments totally inappropriate and unnecessary to throw into the mix.
I would understand maybe if you have some previous interaction of that poster being racist, but if you don't, then I can't fathom why you would bring race into a discussion of putting Sigma lenses on Canon cameras.

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Apr 6, 2014 22:12:34   #
kurtinnj Loc: Rio Rancho, New Mexico
 
MT Shooter wrote:
God forbid we have multi-racial camera gear in our midst! ;-)


I'm just saying Canon and Nikon build their lenses for their sensors . If any one you should agree with me. You are by far this forums guru on cameras and lenses. OK and bye the way. If you don't agree with me it's OK. You still have added so much to this forum that I can live with you criticism. Thank you from me and all the others that have been helped by you.

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Apr 6, 2014 22:17:04   #
kurtinnj Loc: Rio Rancho, New Mexico
 
buffmaloney wrote:
That sounds just like what a racist would say. Stick with your own kind.


I'm a what? Your are a what? Think about this.

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Apr 6, 2014 23:26:57   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
Brooklyn-Camera wrote:
Need f2.8 or lower.....f 4 is not fast enough for indoor ice hockey games..... I am leaning towards the SIGMA 17-50mm f2.8 I am shooting with a crop sensor by the way. Thanks for the info. and keep it coming.....


Brooklyn, have you considered a 35 or 50 mm prime? They can be VERY fast, but are of course not a zoom. Good luck ;-)
SS

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Apr 7, 2014 00:17:01   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
kurtinnj wrote:
I'm just saying Canon and Nikon build their lenses for their sensors . If any one you should agree with me. You are by far this forums guru on cameras and lenses. OK and bye the way. If you don't agree with me it's OK. You still have added so much to this forum that I can live with you criticism. Thank you from me and all the others that have been helped by you.


And the last thing I would ever tell anyone is to consider only manufacturers products. The after market has, in many ways, caught up with and even exceeded then in both quality and selection. And quite often with better warranties and service also. I am a Nikon shooter yet less than half my lenses are Nikon brand. In most cases because Nikon does not offer a particular lens, and in a couple of cases because the Nikon lens has been equalled at a significantly lower price point. I also find it almost impossible to recommend Canons lenses over aftermarket lenses because of canons refusal to offer more than a piddly one year warranty on their often grossly over priced selection.
Everyone has opinions and you should always stick with your beliefs, but you should do so with an open mind. THAT is why I could never agree with your statement.
Oh, and I have over 5000 posts so I guess that means I should just go away according to other posts you have made tonight?
I hope you can now see the fallacy, and danger, of making such blanket statements.

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Apr 7, 2014 01:05:20   #
cntry Loc: Colorado
 
MT Shooter wrote:
And the last thing I would ever tell anyone is to consider only manufacturers products. The after market has, in many ways, caught up with and even exceeded then in both quality and selection. And quite often with better warranties and service also. I am a Nikon shooter yet less than half my lenses are Nikon brand. In most cases because Nikon does not offer a particular lens, and in a couple of cases because the Nikon lens has been equalled at a significantly lower price point. I also find it almost impossible to recommend Canons lenses over aftermarket lenses because of canons refusal to offer more than a piddly one year warranty on their often grossly over priced selection.
Everyone has opinions and you should always stick with your beliefs, but you should do so with an open mind. THAT is why I could never agree with your statement.
Oh, and I have over 5000 posts so I guess that means I should just go away according to other posts you have made tonight?
I hope you can now see the fallacy, and danger, of making such blanket statements.
And the last thing I would ever tell anyone is to ... (show quote)


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Apr 7, 2014 04:23:22   #
buffmaloney Loc: Indiana
 
MT Shooter wrote:
And the last thing I would ever tell anyone is to consider only manufacturers products. The after market has, in many ways, caught up with and even exceeded then in both quality and selection. And quite often with better warranties and service also. I am a Nikon shooter yet less than half my lenses are Nikon brand. In most cases because Nikon does not offer a particular lens, and in a couple of cases because the Nikon lens has been equalled at a significantly lower price point. I also find it almost impossible to recommend Canons lenses over aftermarket lenses because of canons refusal to offer more than a piddly one year warranty on their often grossly over priced selection.
Everyone has opinions and you should always stick with your beliefs, but you should do so with an open mind. THAT is why I could never agree with your statement.
Oh, and I have over 5000 posts so I guess that means I should just go away according to other posts you have made tonight?
I hope you can now see the fallacy, and danger, of making such blanket statements.
And the last thing I would ever tell anyone is to ... (show quote)


:thumbup:



And lighthouse doesn't get it.

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Apr 7, 2014 06:12:21   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
buffmaloney wrote:
That sounds just like what a racist would say. Stick with your own kind.



too funny. If image quality along with budget are important considerations, It's best to buy the best lens you can afford, regardless of brand. Some of the best lenses for Nikon are not made by Nikon - they are made by Zeiss. The best 35mm F1.4 is made by Sigma. Of the 3 24-70mm lenses choices out there, the Tamron equals the image quality of the Canon and Nikon, but at 60% of the price of the OEM.

Getting third party lenses does not come without caveats, though. Weather and dust sealing, build quality, resale value are all better with most of the professional OEM lenses. If price is important, the trick is to buy third party lenses in the used market, maybe from a brand-bigot that is ashamed of associating him/herself with "the other" lenses.

When it comes to spending money on camera lenses, only the brand-bigots are silly enough spend all that money. :)

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Apr 7, 2014 07:05:36   #
lighthouse Loc: No Fixed Abode
 
buffmaloney wrote:




And lighthouse doesn't get it.


Actually I do get it.
I just think your comments were A grade stupid.

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Apr 7, 2014 07:42:09   #
Shutterbugsailer Loc: Staten Island NY (AKA Cincinnati by the Sea)
 
Brooklyn-Camera wrote:
I enjoy shooting ice hockey games. I already have a SIGMA 70-200mm f2.8 and very happry with it. Want to get a lens for shooting when the action gets close to the glass and the net. I am looking at the SIGMA 17-50mm f2.8 EX DC OS HSM. Seen good reviews on YouTube for this lens. Checking what you guys think if you have this lens in your collection? Going price is $569.00 at B&H and/or ADORAMA..... Don't want to go grey at all. The lens has a 4 year warranty.


Heard its a nice lens, but I would not want to be swapping glass in the cold damp environment or an indoor hockey arena. If I were you I would consider an all in one like the Tamron 18-270. Just up the ISO to 800 and put up with a little noise. Not a bad trade off to be able to cover all of the action.

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Apr 7, 2014 07:44:22   #
Shutterbugsailer Loc: Staten Island NY (AKA Cincinnati by the Sea)
 
buffmaloney wrote:
That sounds just like what a racist would say. Stick with your own kind.


If one would believe Disney, racism came long before the human race. In the animated dinosaur film, The Land Before Time, Longnecks would not play with Spiketails

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Apr 7, 2014 07:59:30   #
Pete K Loc: Webster Township, Michigan
 
Good morning MT...
As my Dad used to say...
Never lower yourself to the level of the piss ants...all they do is nibble at your ankles !

While the name is "Lighthouse"... yet does not seem too bright !

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Apr 7, 2014 08:04:44   #
Peekayoh Loc: UK
 
SharpShooter wrote:
Brooklyn, have you considered a 35 or 50 mm prime? They can be VERY fast, but are of course not a zoom. Good luck ;-)
SS
In my book, this is the way to go. I would use my 35/1.8, 50/1.4 or my 58/1.2 probably on a second body to avoid the time penalty of a lens swap.

I realise not everyone is as fortunate but I have been collecting gear for many years.

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Apr 7, 2014 08:06:25   #
antlertwo Loc: Ballston Spa, New York
 
Boy did this post get off topic. As usual

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Apr 7, 2014 08:09:10   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
MT Shooter wrote:
God forbid we have multi-racial camera gear in our midst! ;-)


Bi-racial pictures can be beautiful!

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