Jesusmakes no sense! (Page 6): Open your minds guys: How many truly gods are in the world? Which one is the real one? Can't you see that god is the creation of our own ignorance and...

crissx09 Loc: FL-USA

Open your minds guys: How many truly gods are in the world? Which one is the real one? Can't you see that god is the creation of our own ignorance and fears? How many of you can't walk with out thanks to your god!! The more scare you are about what you do not know or understand, the more faithful you become. The truth is we are here, so far we do not know how everything we have around us start and we are so clueless about the meaning of our existence that we need something to lean on as to explain what we can not. Here enters your god and the gods for the other percentage of the planet population. Religion? Most of them at least teach moral and ethics to avoid humankind to eat one each other,so... is good.

srron Loc: Courtice,On.

God does not expect us to have a blind faith because scripture says that i existence is so obvious from the the infinite complexity of that universe that we are without excuse for not believing.Jesus invited doubting Thomas to touch the wounds in His hands and side to prove it was him after his ressurection.
Darwin did not have electron microscopes to exam the so-called simple cell to find out that it was about as simple as a 747 jet aircraft with its 50,000 or so parts.

nicelifter Loc: erie,pa

ok so lot of you dont think the bible is true ..you could always do what i did and just ask God into your heart and see what happens ..i did that and now i know its all true ...you have nothing to lose by trying but if your wrong you have alot to lose

LarJgrip Loc: The Fraser Valley

srron wrote:

Obviously no research done on this subject at all and much of what is written here supports what is intended to debunk.Actually it is mostly non believers who use Jesus name in vain,which actually unintentionaly gives a kind of backhanded recognition to Jesus.

Of coarse it's a backhanded recognition, the point I'm trying to make here is that his presence and influence in the 'here and now' is so undeniable yet inconceivable if he was "just some guy" two thousand years ago.

winterrose Loc: Kyneton, Victoria, Australia

Kombiguy wrote:

The answer to your question is simply that the que... (show quote)

My question is not nonsensical, what it does is to demonstrate the absurdity of elevating an entity, which by the very fact that those who subscribe to the belief that the entity exists, must ascribe physical value boundaries to the entity in order to determine its existence. Just as an infinite distance can have no determinable point of departure, unlimited power, if it were to exist, can have no constraint.

LarJgrip Loc: The Fraser Valley

Gnslngr wrote:

Here's something even more telling: In the over t... (show quote)

Here's something even more telling, mister.

What sort of machine, device or theorem do you suppose puny man could come up with that would even begin to comprehend the omnipotent power of a being that could speak billions of galaxies into existence?

But that's not the interesting part, Jesus is that being in human flesh.

LarJgrip Loc: The Fraser Valley

Gnslngr wrote:

Speedy, my truth is that there is no such thing as the god you believe in. So it's my truth. (Ps - it's also just your truth, but you don't realize it yet.)

Have you considered the possibility that it's you who doesn't realize yet?

winterrose Loc: Kyneton, Victoria, Australia

murphy wrote:

Scientist were forced to find missing time in space when starting the space program. That missing time was found in the bible. Isaiah 38-8 and 2 Kings 20: 9-11.http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_nasa_missing_day.htm

The article concludes:- "trying to prove events that are said to have occurred in the Bible, using scientific principles, doesn't work. Most scientists draw a clear distinction between things that are taken on faith, and those that are testable and therefore falsifiable. Science deals with the later, and religion with the former."

LarJgrip Loc: The Fraser Valley

toedoc wrote:

LarJgrip: Because He is who He says He is: God in human flesh, sent to redeem the lost. And He commands everyone, everywhere to repent.

A resounding thank you!!! And straight to the point. Amen.

winterrose Loc: Kyneton, Victoria, Australia

Maybe if all those priests, those deeply religious God's representatives who are blessed by and heavily protected by the Church and who are supposed to be going forth to spread the word of God would practice what they are supposed to be preaching instead having sex with innocent children, some degree of credibility might exist.

Gnslngr

LarJgrip wrote:

Here's something even more telling, mister.

What sort of machine, device or theorem do you suppose puny man could come up with that would even begin to comprehend the omnipotent power of a being that could speak billions of galaxies into existence?

But that's not the interesting part, Jesus is that being in human flesh.

Well, then maybe you can tell me: what sort of being that commands that everyone acknowledge him/her upon pain of eternal damnation provides no irrefutable proof of his/her existence? Seems to me that kind of a deity is kind of a jerk.

Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana

winterrose wrote:

My question is not nonsensical, what it does is to demonstrate the absurdity of elevating an entity, which by the very fact that those who subscribe to the belief that the entity exists, must ascribe physical value boundaries to the entity in order to determine its existence. Just as an infinite distance can have no determinable point of departure, unlimited power, if it were to exist, can have no constraint.

God has no boundaries except for the boundaries he has set for himself. He gave man a free will to accept him or to reject him. You are that object that he can not move. He can not force you to accept him as God nor his son as your savior.

As to your question as quoted the answer is no, there is nothing too heavy that he can not lift because God is not flesh and blood, he is Spirit and must be worshiped in spirit.

Ask yourself this, why would God try to make something so heavy that he could not lift it, just to prove to you that he is God? If you where put out of a bible study class it was not because of your question. You where there to learn about Gods love and saving Grace, not to disrupt the class with silly questions.

"If God is all powerful, can he make something that is so heavy that he can't lift it?"

dthomas Loc: Frostburg Maryland

The initial statement in this section makes me wonder if the writer has taken the time to really understand the life of Jesus and the Bible. John 8:32 " know the truth and the truth will set you free."
Mankind as a whole is a disaster. Without the basic guidelines that are expounded in the Bible and in the life of Jesus, society would be anarchy. The basic precepts are the essential foundation to all the societies on this planet. It would be a very different world if the majority did not follow the basic ideas expressed by the Bible and Jesus.
If you do not wish to believe in Jesus and the theology expressed in the Bible, fine. Remember; that how you live and how you interact with others is all based on a man and theology that was started way before Jesus. Jesus was the point at which all of this came together, at one point in time. You are free to make any decision that you want but what you reap you also so; not only theologically but in life in general.

jackare

It is the biggest scam ever perpetrated! along with all other religions. A way to control people.
Even if he had good intentions, the 'men' who have been in control since have corrupted the entire idea beyond belief!!

creativ simon Loc: Coulsdon, South London

winterrose wrote:

Maybe if all those priests, those deeply religious God's representatives who are blessed by and heavily protected by the Church and who are supposed to be going forth to spread the word of God would practice what they are supposed to be preaching instead having sex with innocent children, some degree of credibility might exist.

Well spoken