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Jan 25, 2014 14:05:03   #
skylane5sp Loc: Puyallup, WA
 
BTW, who takes pictures of something like this on the roof of their car out in the street at night?

"Hey, look what I just nabbed. Let's get it online and get it sold quick!"

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Jan 25, 2014 21:38:18   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
Shutter Bugger wrote:
Hmmm, I see. I'm surprised though, that "probable cause"
would not immunise a Police Officer from litigation.

Anyway Mogul, we are talking Cambridge Ontario not LA LA land.

I have a friend in the QLD Police force, the QLD Police are competent professionals.
It is on that, that I base the assessment and action
that could be taken with the lens seller.

And that is: Ring Ian (the honest and competent plain clothes officer) and tell him what I know about the seller and his contradicting stories and suggest we check him out. First the data base of "stolen items" is checked for a "Bigma", Then arrange a meeting with the seller, at the meeting establish his identity and address and question him about the providence of the lens. If positive ID and address of the seller are established, and everything lenswise is Ok and the seller has a plausible reason for the contradicting emails, you've got a bargain, and owe "Ian" a few beers,
and photos of his boat and family.

If the seller/lens credos don't add up, the seller is taken down to the station for further questioning and charges laid if warranted.

That's the way I saw/see it.

Ian and I were based up in Townsville North Queensland.

Townsvilles population is about 200,000. Even though it is
QLDs second largest city, one could be forgiven for calling it a country town, perhaps Mogul, that is why what I have outlined is valid there and possibly Ontario but not where you come from.
Hmmm, I see. I'm surprised though, that "pro... (show quote)

I envy Queensland that they have the funds for enough law enforcement officers to answer such calls, or perhaps it is your friendship and/or knowledge of the law that draws such a response. In my own small community (less than 50,000), we have three patrol units on duty during the day and two at night; I wish we had enough officers to follow such leads, but our taxes are used for other purposes less to the peoples' interests and needs.

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Jan 25, 2014 22:19:22   #
Shutter Bugger
 
Mogul wrote:
I envy Queensland that they have the funds for enough law enforcement officers to answer such calls, or perhaps it is your friendship and/or knowledge of the law that draws such a response. In my own small community (less than 50,000), we have three patrol units on duty during the day and two at night; I wish we had enough officers to follow such leads, but our taxes are used for other purposes less to the peoples' interests and needs.


My knowledge of the law is very average Mogul.
Having said that, if someone is screaming obscenities,
frothing at the mouth and hacking through someones front door with a machete, I'd bet "he's not collecting for the Red Cross."

Queensland is a remarkable state. Perhaps I should not speak of the state as a whole though, as I've not lived in Brisbane.
I spent part of 04 in Townsville N. QLD.
All of 05 in Cairns Far North QLD and back to Townsville for 06 and part of 07.

There's only one bigger city in QLD than those 2 and that's Brisbane, the states capitol. I would not mind betting though, that the Brisbane Police are much like the guys up north.

In Australia; each state and the Northern Territory has only one homogeneous Police force each.
And there is the Australian Federal Police that covers all of Australia. The Australian Capitol Territory (AKA Canberra) has no police force of its own. It is is policed by a resident contingency of the AFP.

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Jan 26, 2014 00:45:28   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
Shutter Bugger wrote:
My knowledge of the law is very average Mogul.
Having said that, if someone is screaming obscenities,
frothing at the mouth and hacking through someones front door with a machete, I'd bet "he's not collecting for the Red Cross."

Queensland is a remarkable state. Perhaps I should not speak of the state as a whole though, as I've not lived in Brisbane.
I spent part of 04 in Townsville N. QLD.
All of 05 in Cairns Far North QLD and back to Townsville for 06 and part of 07.

There's only one bigger city in QLD than those 2 and that's Brisbane, the states capitol. I would not mind betting though, that the Brisbane Police are much like the guys up north.

In Australia; each state and the Northern Territory has only one homogeneous Police force each.
And there is the Australian Federal Police that covers all of Australia. The Australian Capitol Territory (AKA Canberra) has no police force of its own. It is is policed by a resident contingency of the AFP.
My knowledge of the law is very average Mogul. br ... (show quote)

Shutter Bugger, thank you. I appreciate the information about your local law enforcement structure. Over here, every governmental entity seems to have its own agency and territorial/jurisdictional jealousies often hamper law enforcement. In no way do I present the American law enforcement structure as a shining example of organization or inter-agency cooperation. In fact, I think our law enforcement organization is one of our greatest weaknesses. It is certainly not advantageous to the men and women who must every day deal with miscreants AND politically motivated jurisdictional limits. In many areas of local communities, one side of a street may be policed by a city force, but, because the street defines the city limit, the other side of the street is policed by a county sheriff's department. The only exception to this weakness occurs when small municipalities that cannot fund properly trained and equipped police forces are able to contract with the county for local enforcement, thereby putting aside frequent jurisdictional disputes.

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Jan 26, 2014 01:02:55   #
wlgoode Loc: Globe, AZ
 
Shutter Bugger wrote:
Mogul, it's high time you stopped sniffing glue!

Inane... Not Insane! Two different words; two different meanings... good grief!

English comprehension is pretty poor around here. Some of you make Forrest Gump seem like an astro physysist.

I appreciate your response Mogul, but what in the hell has your post got to do with the subject of this thread:
A Sigma lens for sale that is probably stolen property?

Sorry if some of my responses seem "rude", but I have had
"tools of trade" stolen more than once and have suffered the consequences. The inane posts are not bringing the scumbags involved down.

If this is a stolen lens, I want the seller to feel the full force
of the judicial system. I wish I could be there so he could feel the full force of my Alpinestars motorcycle boots as well!
Mogul, it's high time you stopped sniffing glue! b... (show quote)


But on Chit-Chat Inane = Insane, without meaning and without sanity.

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Jan 26, 2014 14:41:49   #
Shutter Bugger
 
wlgoode wrote:
But on Chit-Chat Inane = Insane, without meaning and without sanity.


2 things Wood Glue.

1. With a slight stretch of the imagination I can see how
inane could be construed as a subset of insane.

But insane exceeds the boundaries of inane no matter how
you look at it... Unless the Chit Chat forum formally disposes of the constraints of the English language of course.

Then one could say to another; "perform an anatomically impossible act upon yourself", then respond to accusations of rudeness with; "But on Chit-Chat" "perform an anatomically impossible act upon yourself" is complimentary. After all, sex is a wonderful and pleasing experience.

2. It seems you have not noticed that this is "Main Photography Discussion" not "Chit-Chat, so, inane = you.

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Jan 26, 2014 18:55:35   #
wlgoode Loc: Globe, AZ
 
Shutter Bugger wrote:
2 things Wood Glue.

1. With a slight stretch of the imagination I can see how
inane could be construed as a subset of insane.

But insane exceeds the boundaries of inane no matter how
you look at it... Unless the Chit Chat forum formally disposes of the constraints of the English language of course.

Then one could say to another; "perform an anatomically impossible act upon yourself", then respond to accusations of rudeness with; "But on Chit-Chat" "perform an anatomically impossible act upon yourself" is complimentary. After all, sex is a wonderful and pleasing experience.

2. It seems you have not noticed that this is "Main Photography Discussion" not "Chit-Chat, so, inane = you.
2 things Wood Glue. br br 1. With a slight stretc... (show quote)


If you look at Chit-Chat you'll see very many posters are both inane and insane. Couldn't resist, I find Chit-Chat in sort of an alternate universe.

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Jan 26, 2014 19:26:14   #
Shutter Bugger
 
wlgoode wrote:
If you look at Chit-Chat you'll see very many posters are both inane and insane. Couldn't resist, I find Chit-Chat in sort of an alternate universe.


Ok woodglue,

I'm sure we are both
inane and insane from time to time.

good on you.

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Jan 28, 2014 11:39:47   #
ScottRyckeghem Loc: Illinois
 
I wouldn't want to give anyone i didn't know my home address either. It's a lot easier for someone to come in your house and rip you off. He might have just got tired of all your questions, I've done a lot of sales off of local auction sites in parking lots,middle of the day with a lot of people around and never had an issue. Hard to tell,you just have to go with your gut. Maybe set up the meet, see how the surroundings look when you get there (probably my Law Enforcement background coming out) and go from there. If it seems hinky get away from the deal and move on.

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Jan 29, 2014 13:51:09   #
SlimDude Loc: Cambridge, Ontario
 
skylane5sp wrote:
BTW, who takes pictures of something like this on the roof of their car out in the street at night?

"Hey, look what I just nabbed. Let's get it online and get it sold quick!"


I had this thought also. In any event, I have decided not to pursue a purchase. I will check with Crimestoppers periodically to see if he got nabbed. Thanks to all for your creative thoughts.

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