that made me mention "Snobs"...and you know who you are that used that term and then deny they are snobbish. I retract my apology, they are photo bigots. They think each time they depress the shuuter, God takes the shot. YOU ARE NOT ANSEL ADAMS, GET OVER YOUR BIG BAD AVERAGE SELF !!!
Pepper
Loc: Planet Earth Country USA
Real photographers couldnt care less what us snapshooters do or dont do but there are some who see what the new technology has allowed the amateur to accomplish and it frustrates them and then they get all defensive and insecure. I have a hunch by the time this tread has run its course youll see what I mean.
Pepper wrote:
Real photographers couldnt care less what us snapshooters do or dont do but there are some who see what the new technology has allowed the amateur to accomplish and it frustrates them and then they get all defensive and insecure. I have a hunch by the time this tread has run its course youll see what I mean.
Pepper, Thank you. I think you have nailed it. Thank goodness for you, I insult and say the wrong thing but I think you have it precisely.Can`t wait to hear from all the "REAL " photographers They have suffered doing all the work and digital brings anyone with an"EYE" up to their speed . How they must hate this.A very good photographer, who only shot 35mm slides, finally admitted he has all new stuff to embrace. He`s not bitter, he`s growing.Dinosaurs die but some evolve into a new species
I don't mind being called a snapshooter ... I've been called worse. I just consider myself a person that enjoys photography. I may never become the next Ansel Adams but the man is my hero. All I can do is my best, and never stop learning.
Mike629 wrote:
that made me mention "Snobs"...and you know who you are that used that term and then deny they are snobbish. I retract my apology, they are photo bigots. They think each time they depress the shuuter, God takes the shot. YOU ARE NOT ANSEL ADAMS, GET OVER YOUR BIG BAD AVERAGE SELF !!!
Let's hear it from the old seasoned pros that DON'T take snap shots, everyone does it when the opportunity presents its self.
When the conditions right and time is an issue snapshots make for some damn good shooting. Just another tool in the kit.
Most old coots my age with decent dslr rigs have point and shoot cameras as well, again just another tool in the kit.
For the record, I'm a hobby shooter , been shooting since 1972, consider myself a decent photographer.
Why is youth wasted on the young?
tramsey wrote:
Why is youth wasted on the young?
Because they are still flexible enough to enjoy it LOL
Pepper
Loc: Planet Earth Country USA
photogrl57 wrote:
tramsey wrote:
Why is youth wasted on the young?
Because they are still flexible enough to enjoy it LOL
And in more ways than one. :-D
MWAC
Loc: Somewhere East Of Crazy
Well I'm a photo snob but I still take snapshots of my kids, I try not to post them because the have issues and I am here to learn, so what I consider my best are posted.
Sorry it amazes me how people just think it's ok to blast those that take learning photography seriously. Do you think it makes those further along in their photograph journey take time from their day to help you grow?
MWAC wrote:
Well I'm a photo snob but I still take snapshots of my kids, I try not to post them because the have issues and I am here to learn, so what I consider my best are posted.
Sorry it amazes me how people just think it's ok to blast those that take learning photography seriously. Do you think it makes those further along in their photograph journey take time from their day to help you grow?
I am a history buff ! I have shot 11 western states including Canada . with boxs of potos no body will see untill I am long gone . Not every photo is perfect but it was the best I could do 25 years ago. They will still show what the past did look like as time goes on.Thats why I do street Photos. You should all be admired for your subject and your intrest , you will all leave somthing behind that no body else has and every body will want .Good job friends , Have a good shooting day.
gonate
Pepper
Loc: Planet Earth Country USA
I may have misunderstood the OP but as for myself Id make it clear that I would never ridicule or blast anyone for taking their craft seriously. Secondly I have posted on many occasions an expression of gratitude for all those here who take their time to help those of us who seek their help. My objection is to those who ridicule and belittle those who ask what they perceive as dumb questions.
Beginners want to share in the conversation they want to participate but they must be allowed to participate at their level without being made fun of. Its my understanding that this site is open to all who have an interest not just to those who have reached a specific level of competence. There are those, who are further along in their journey, that feel the beginner should learn in accordance to their standards. I did this or I had to do that or they should do this, why? who are they to cram their methodology down anyone elses throat? If they dont like the question or topic of discussion why not just move on to another thread? Why do they first feel the need to belittle the beginner before they move on? I hope I never get so good at anything that I feel justified in belittling others simply because they dont measure up to my expectations.
A very quick read through this thread has me convinced I should either be offened or I have offended others. Can someone help me get in touch with my emotions - I am adrift.
MWAC
Loc: Somewhere East Of Crazy
Pepper wrote:
I may have misunderstood the OP but as for myself Id make it clear that I would never ridicule or blast anyone for taking their craft seriously. Secondly I have posted on many occasions an expression of gratitude for all those here who take their time to help those of us who seek their help. My objection is to those who ridicule and belittle those who ask what they perceive as dumb questions.
Beginners want to share in the conversation they want to participate but they must be allowed to participate at their level without being made fun of. Its my understanding that this site is open to all who have an interest not just to those who have reached a specific level of competence. There are those, who are further along in their journey, that feel the beginner should learn in accordance to their standards. I did this or I had to do that or they should do this, why? who are they to cram their methodology down anyone elses throat? If they dont like the question or topic of discussion why not just move on to another thread? Why do they first feel the need to belittle the beginner before they move on? I hope I never get so good at anything that I feel justified in belittling others simply because they dont measure up to my expectations.
I may have misunderstood the OP but as for myself ... (
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I agree that beginners should never be belittled but in all honesty threads like this make those that are further along question if they should even share their knowledge. I know I will now question if the OP (or anyone that starts such a thread) is even open to C&C and if help is offered will the person trying to help end up getting blasted for being a snob? The chances of me offering the OP a helping hand just went down, there is more than enough people here on the UHH that are looking for help, I don't need to waste time on a poster that might come at me with guns a blazing because I had the balls to give him a few pointers or ideas on how to improve a picture (not that I think I am a better photographer than him nor do I think I am anywhere near to amazing but I do think I have something to offer newbies).
I cringe every time I see a thread calling out newbies for dumb or useless questions (if there even is such a thing) just as I cringe when I see a post calling more seasoned photographers snobs because they willing share knowledge that in some cases has taken them years to again. I am happy that there are some very talented photographers on this forum that are willing to share and help me along. I would never call any of them here snobs or "picture bigots", it's rude, insulting and will drive them to other forums were they will be more than welcome. Then what are we left with here at UHH? A bunch of newbies telling each other that their snapshots are wonderful and amazing? Is that what you really want in a photography forum? That's what Family and Facebook is for.
notnoBuddha wrote:
A very quick read through this thread has me convinced I should either be offened or I have offended others. Can someone help me get in touch with my emotions - I am adrift.
I would but then I'd have to care ... that takes effort .. so I'll just get out the camera and take action shots of you as you drift :)
photogrl57 wrote:
notnoBuddha wrote:
A very quick read through this thread has me convinced I should either be offened or I have offended others. Can someone help me get in touch with my emotions - I am adrift.
I would but then I'd have to care ... that takes effort .. so I'll just get out the camera and take action shots of you as you drift :)
You learn well - Grasshopper.
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