wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma

well, shucks,foilks…Im impressed with what Blurry thinks, too…He is right on today, as usual..

PrairieSeasons Loc: Red River of the North

Yeah - let's keep this conversation in bars and taverns where it belongs.

The standard for a certain wage is not and should not be "how much does the employee need". It should be based on "how much does the employee contribute to the economy of the employer."

ted45 Loc: Delaware

I suppose your "The solution to this is not found in oily, un-informed, and snarly quips." is the proper way to discuss the subject?


We have always had low paid people living on wages that others feel are below living standards. The problem is that there are some people that do not want a small palace to live in and two cars in the heated/air conditioned garage. Who are you to dictate to someone else what their standard of living should be.

The market place works; if people did not take the low paying jobs flipping burgers then the burger places would have to pay more to attract workers. It really is that simple.

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

The non-rational, emotional plea of an uninformed mind. Not being snarly, just pointing out. It does no good to flail against generalizations and your own simplicities.

Agree with your final thought, except the middle class is disappearing.

Soon we will have only the very rich and the very poor.

Remember France? They had a revolution.

Schwabo Loc: Florida

ditto, I will vote for you as well.

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

Please re-read anti-penultimate statement on the solution, as I posted it.

Schwabo Loc: Florida

Yeah and look where they are now.

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

Strike "of the employer."

PrairieSeasons Loc: Red River of the North

Either way - the answer is the same.

FRENCHY Loc: Stone Mountain , Ga

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yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon

Have you heard about Detroit?The condition of California?
Oregon?How about teachers unions in general.

autofocus Loc: North Central Connecticut

Once we get to the point that salary demands on Mickey D and others like it reach unaffordability we will see that robots can make burgers start to finish more efficiently and economically than the now "low paid" burger flipper. Will we then hear outcrys from them wishing they had their minimum wage jobs back again? If you force employers to do this because of all the demands put on them it will, and can be a reality. All you have to do is look at all the robotics now being used in the auto industry, and probably for the same reasons

ebbote Loc: Hockley, Texas

Yes it was enough but barely, used car, small apt.

GAClowers Loc: Tacoma, Washington

Using your usual stupid arguments I see. Let's see. We still have all those great textile mills, tire manufacturers, steel mills, etc. The auto manufactures are doing great too. In Mexico, Brazil and other foreign locations. How many Fords are built here now. Why do you think they all left? The cities that they used to support are looking great too.

rrforster12 Loc: Leesburg Florida

Unions and mandated Minimum Wage laws are legalized price-Fixing mechanism's, and as such, are anti-consumer and the base cause of inflation. In the real-world marketplace there will always be relative winners and losers. There is always a price to pay to become a "winner". Education, and relevant experience are the usual rungs upward, but 10 years of tightening a lug on an assembly line is really only a multiple of the 2 or 3 weeks it took to learn where the tools are and the toilet and lunchroom are to successfully fill that spot on the line. Artificially setting some arbitrary price for labor only serves to raise the price of whatever that industry is producing. It follows that as the price of any product rises, the desirability of it to the masses diminishes unless there is a compensating increase in value. It's generally known as "pricing yourself out of the market". Why is almost everything we see in the appliance market, the clothing market etc are imports from other countries?.....because its less expensive and the value is perceived as equal to, or better then U.S. produced product.
It's the marketplace at work in a free market. There are only 3 ways to change this eventuality. Build a significantly more valuable product, build a equal product at a very competitive price, or have the government prohibit the importation of foreign built product (or services). Where is the "value added" feature of mandated minimum wage laws, or for that matter, mandated Union Rules?