I seem to learn something from both the verbal and processing analysis / critique postings that are provided by some.
To me it is obviouse when comments get "off-track" and I just tend to sift for the nuggets in the thread.
Thank you again for your time and effort.
Nightski wrote:
What I remember Jenny, is that Alaskan was very angry because he felt that the critique at UHH was a joke. He wrote me a long PM about the umbrella topic I started. He was super torqued that so many people told me my umbrella pic was good. Then he was mad at Lighthouse because he felt that Lighthouse gave me a pass on only having half a boat. I even said I was planning to go back and get the whole boat, and Alaskan was still ticked off. Then after he left he wrote me some very long emails about how upset he was that people go around praising photos at UHH that are crap. That's what got me started on the thread to campaign for a new section. It was never my intention to run it. So I campaigned, and bugged Admin. I organized a PM bomb, which really ticked Admin off. Then Admin contacted me, and said. A section like this will turn into another photo gallery and be a failure just like the analysis section, unless it is micro managed. Admin was not willing to do that. My heart sank. I did not need this big responsibility. But I felt bad, because I got everyone fired up about it, so I felt I could not say no. Now, Bmac was on board with this the whole time, and very supportive, but really, in my mind it was Alaskan that inspired me to campaign for the section. That's how I see it.
What I remember Jenny, is that Alaskan was very an... (
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I have been alerted that more than a month after I left the UHH my name is still being thrown around so here is my long overdue disclaimer:
NIGHTSKI DOES NOT SPEAK UP FOR ME AND WAS NEVER AUTHORIZED OR ASKED TO DO SO.
She used my silent UHH departure to turn it into a public spectacle to pursue her agenda.I understand she is a big girl and could forward her agenda under her own name but instead she decided to hide behind my name while carefully (and repeatedly) distancing herself from what I listed in PMs and emails as my reasons for leaving the UHH.In another words she used me without my knowledge and my consent for her own purposes and also made public parts of my PMs (silly me, I thought the "P" in PM stands for private). Now she describes me as "very angry","super torqued","mad","still ticked" and "upset".
Nightski, you not only do not know the difference between private and public but obviously you are also harboring some paranoid personality when you cannot tell anger etc. from a honest matter-of-fact evaluation of the UHH culture,perceived or real.Why would I get angry,mad,torqued,ticked and upset because you post a horribly underexposed photo (End of Summer) or a photo with butchered composition (Tugboat At Twin Harbor)???? Those two photos are prime examples that you still have a long way to go to think and perform like a photographer.So why I would go ballistic because you screwed up and have no shame or judgment to delete instead of posting? Sure,you have the right to post whatever you want and those terminal praisers who commented those photos as "great" have the right to show their lack of judgment as well.None of my problems but I do not have to participate in something I see as stupid or waste of time.So I left,big deal......
Alaskans are not known for their diplomatic skills,we may be living in a bush but we do not beat around the bush.So let me assure you that the only time my pulse goes way up is when I am charged by a grizzly or a whale gets too close to the boat.To sum it up the UHH just does not matter and no my PMs or emails were/are written with a malice or anger in my heart.There is nothing I can do about your interpretation though.I guess that is what you get when I politely explained why I left instead of saying "none of your business" in response to your question "why".And I definitely decline the dubious honor of being the one who inspired you to campaign for the section.You created your own "little hell" and you deserve every bit of it.Leave me out,end of story.
(Before your interpretation of the above goes paranoid again I would like to stress I feel no anger or malice toward you or anybody else,I have much more important things to stress about).
alaskan wrote:
I have been alerted that more than a month after I left the UHH my name is still being thrown around so here is my long overdue disclaimer:
NIGHTSKI DOES NOT SPEAK UP FOR ME AND WAS NEVER AUTHORIZED OR ASKED TO DO SO.
She used my silent UHH departure to turn it into a public spectacle to pursue her agenda.I understand she is a big girl and could forward her agenda under her own name but instead she decided to hide behind my name while carefully (and repeatedly) distancing herself from what I listed in PMs and emails as my reasons for leaving the UHH.In another words she used me without my knowledge and my consent for her own purposes and also made public parts of my PMs (silly me, I thought the "P" in PM stands for private). Now she describes me as "very angry","super torqued","mad","still ticked" and "upset".
Nightski, you not only do not know the difference between private and public but obviously you are also harboring some paranoid personality when you cannot tell anger etc. from a honest matter-of-fact evaluation of the UHH culture,perceived or real.Why would I get angry,mad,torqued,ticked and upset because you post a horribly underexposed photo (End of Summer) or a photo with butchered composition (Tugboat At Twin Harbor)???? Those two photos are prime examples that you still have a long way to go to think and perform like a photographer.So why I would go ballistic because you screwed up and have no shame or judgment to delete instead of posting? Sure,you have the right to post whatever you want and those terminal praisers who commented those photos as "great" have the right to show their lack of judgment as well.None of my problems but I do not have to participate in something I see as stupid or waste of time.So I left,big deal......
Alaskans are not known for their diplomatic skills,we may be living in a bush but we do not beat around the bush.So let me assure you that the only time my pulse goes way up is when I am charged by a grizzly or a whale gets too close to the boat.To sum it up the UHH just does not matter and no my PMs or emails were/are written with a malice or anger in my heart.There is nothing I can do about your interpretation though.I guess that is what you get when I politely explained why I left instead of saying "none of your business" in response to your question "why".And I definitely decline the dubious honor of being the one who inspired you to campaign for the section.You created your own "little hell" and you deserve every bit of it.Leave me out,end of story.
(Before your interpretation of the above goes paranoid again I would like to stress I feel no anger or malice toward you or anybody else,I have much more important things to stress about).
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Again, you sound angry, Alaskan. It's just the way you come across...
jenny wrote:
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Poor Alaskan, he must have found it frustrating to try to communicate with al the idiots on UH,and only you know about all these long emails and how angry he was...and we have NO word at all from him whatever as you hounded him for "honest critique" on half a boat. You finally got it??
Jenny,please read my response to Nightski to have my take on the whole twisted situation.Thank you.
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Thank you very much Alaskan for words of your very own as it is,at least in my knowledge, the only words the other members have had from you. You certainly deserve an apology from N'ski,and you have my sympathy along with most of the other members for all the references that were erroneous,fictitous or distorted.
Bmac
Loc: Long Island, NY
alaskan wrote:
I have been alerted that more than a month after I left the UHH my name is still being thrown around so here is my long overdue disclaimer:
NIGHTSKI DOES NOT SPEAK UP FOR ME AND WAS NEVER AUTHORIZED OR ASKED TO DO SO
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Thanks for clearing this up Alaskan as some of the things being stated concerning you did not ring true to me. I should have emailed you about this but did not wish to get involved with what you said or didn't say, how you felt or didn't, etc. etc. So I am glad you spoke up.
You know I miss your photographs and narratives about a state I have never been to and do hope one day you decide to create more threads here and give some of your honest critique to those who need it, like me! :-D
Anyway, if you are still watching have a very Merry Christmas and a Great New Year. :thumbup:
Nightski wrote:
Again, you sound angry, Alaskan. It's just the way you come across...
Again you sound paranoid.It`s just the way you come across...
P.S.:If no nonsense honesty is not your cup of tea my advice for you is to stay away from Alaska. Too many no nonsense and politically incorrect people up here.
alaskan wrote:
Again you sound paranoid.It`s just the way you come across...
P.S.:If no nonsense honesty is not your cup of tea my advice for you is to stay away from Alaska. Too many no nonsense and politically incorrect people up here.
We have the same issues down south here. Too many politically incorrect and positively stubborn as well. And too redneck to care.
Singing Swan wrote:
We have the same issues down south here. Too many politically incorrect and positively stubborn as well. And too redneck to care.
:thumbup: :thumbup: Texas is a little bit further South but your right........some of us.....to damn redneck to care :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
jenny wrote:
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Thank you very much Alaskan for words of your very own as it is,at least in my knowledge, the only words the other members have had from you. You certainly deserve an apology from N'ski,and you have my sympathy along with most of the other members for all the references that were erroneous,fictitous or distorted.
Jenny,I was willing to let the topic "Why Alaskan Has Left UHH" ride into the sunset even when it was clear some trolls would see it as an open season to hunt down Alaskan.
That is why I did not read the comments,just did not want to be sucked into stupid fights about nothing.
To be fair I must say Nightski did apologized to me about the "Why Alaskan....." topic in a PM and even thanked me "for being the way I am".That was our last contact,now she presents me as a rabid mental case, go figure.
Merry Christmas,Ivan Alaskan.
Bmac wrote:
Thanks for clearing this up Alaskan as some of the things being stated concerning you did not ring true to me. I should have emailed you about this but did not wish to get involved with what you said or didn't say, how you felt or didn't, etc. etc. So I am glad you spoke up.
You know I miss your photographs and narratives about a state I have never been to and do hope one day you decide to create more threads here and give some of your honest critique to those who need it, like me! :-D
Anyway, if you are still watching have a very Merry Christmas and a Great New Year. :thumbup:
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Bmac,As we know there are at least two sides to each story. It is not uncommon that some facts get distorted or twisted to fit the underlaying agenda or there is a need to demonize the party without an agenda.While I decided to ignore the "Why Alaskan Has Left UHH" topic I have been having hard time to ignore being portrayed as a rabid mental case here.So now you know the rest of the story and I appreciate you did not fall for all the nonsense about me.Thank you and have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year as well.
P.S.: If you ever make it to Alaska please be sure to look me up and I will show you around.
Hankwt wrote:
Good Luck Alaskan !!
Thanks Hankwt and the same to you.
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