nikonnut Loc: Las Vegas

I print some of my B&W's on metallic paper. What I find is that if the image has an area that is close or the same shade as the paper it does not print allowing the photo to almost shimmer in light. I have recently had a photo printed by Bay Photo metal process and found the same thing to be true. It makes for a stunning image.

Photographer Jim Loc: Rio Vista, CA

What printer do you use?

nikonnut Loc: Las Vegas

I just found the profile for my Canon printer. Perhaps you have a printer that is not listed??

f4frank

Thanks for the infomation. I use a few Moab products along with a number of Epson, Ilford and Premier products and have never heard of this. Perhaps its because I never use profiles from the paper manufacturers I always build my own using x-rite's I1 pro 2. I'll investigate as it just doesn't make any sense because rendering intents are only used to determine how out of gamut colour's are moved into gamut. Perceptual always maintaines the best colour to colour relationship but their are times when relative colourmetric provides the best image. I guess my question back to you would be, what happens when your image doesn't have any out of gamut colours,

Harry Thomas Loc: Doylestown, Pennsylvania

I use an Epson R3000. I sent an E-mail to Moab concerning everything discussed. They are closed for the weekend and waiting a response.

f4frank

Harry;
A couple of days ago I replied to your post, stating that rendering intents have nothing to do with the icc profiles.

I just finished a call with Evan at Legion Papers, the folks that make the Moab Slickrock metallic 300. The perceptual rendering intent is recommended bacause of the gray-metalic surface of the media. It's all about the colour shifts that are created when out-of-gamut colours are put back into gamut. Using the relative colour metric, any colour shifts that occur are exaggorated vs. the colour shifts that are created using perceptual.

If you pay attention to out-of-gamut colours in your images and adjust your image to move those colours into gamut before printing then it wouldn't matter what rendering intent you used.

From what I've seen and read about this media your images should be stunning.

Harry Thomas Loc: Doylestown, Pennsylvania

Moab contacted me with the right ICC profile and image recommendation for both B&W and Color. Loaded and tried it with very good results.

Thanks to all for your support and recommendations. They were spot on.

billybob40

Look at some of redriverpaper.com it will word on any printer. Its about the same type of paper. try a sample pack.

Harry Thomas Loc: Doylestown, Pennsylvania

I spoke to Evan also and he echoed your recommendations. I'm very pleased with the results I'm now getting.

I've noticed the best results are images with a wide dynamic range for color and with B&W, I have to be very judicious with contrast, in order to maintain shadow detail.

It's a great paper.