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Nov 18, 2013 09:35:11   #
Kanonmeister Loc: Los Angeles
 
FrumCA wrote:
(in this casWhen there's no rationale argument to refute someone's position e, Ted Cruz's), left-wingers generally go on the attack. This thread is a case in point.



Your garbled point can now be known as FRUMCAS posit.

And "left wingers"? Get over name calling.

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Nov 18, 2013 09:57:13   #
FrumCA
 
Kanonmeister wrote:
Your garbled point can now be known as FRUMCAS posit.

And "left wingers"? Get over name calling.

Actually my original post is not garbled. Don't know what you looked at. You must have just had a glass of tainted Kool aid. Go back and look at it again. And how is "left winger" considered name calling? Thin skin perhaps?? I'm not going to waste my time taking you to school on this term so look it up.

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Nov 18, 2013 09:59:25   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
Gitzo wrote:
Ted Cruz: Nation Divided Between Washington and Rest

Saturday, 16 Nov 2013 08:22 PM
By Todd Beamon and Steve Malzberg


The beleaguered Obamacare program is the best example of the huge rift between entrenched Washington politicians and the American people, Sen. Ted Cruz tells Newsmax.

The biggest rift in the country is not between Democrats and Republicans, he says, but between Washington and the rest of the country.

"There are a lot of politicians in Washington who just aren't listening to the American people — and people are frustrated," the Texas Republican said in an exclusive interview at the annual Restoration Weekend conference in Palm Beach, Fla.

"You take something like Obamacare," he began. "Millions of Americans have been speaking up, saying: 'This is a train wreck. This is a disaster. This is killing jobs. This is forcing people into part-time work.' We've been seeing in the last few weeks that this is taking away the healthcare of millions of Americans

"Yet, Washington hasn't been listening to them. That's the frustration people feel all across this country. That's something I hope will change."

Cruz, 42, a first-term senator backed by the tea party, has been mentioned as a Republican presidential candidate in 2016. He has long opposed Obamacare. In September, he spoke for more than 21 hours on the Senate floor against President Barack Obama's signature domestic policy achievement.

The program has been plagued with problems since the rollout of its individual mandate on Oct. 1. The main Obamacare website, HealthCare.gov, has been riddled with technological and accessibility problems — and millions of Americans have since been dropped by insurance companies because their plans do not meet the law's requirements.

The House voted 261-157 on Friday to allow insurance companies to sell those health policies for another year. Thirty-nine Democrats, including several who face tough challenges in next year's congressional elections, voted for the bill, sponsored by GOP Rep. Fred Upton of Michigan.

The Senate is working on its own version of the Upton plan. For his part, President Obama has pledged to grant a one-year reprieve to Americans whose health policies have been canceled.

"As John Adams said, facts are stubborn things," Cruz told Newsmax, reflecting on the House vote. "And the facts are Obamacare isn't working. At this point, it is the essence of pragmatism to want to repeal Obamacare, because three-and-a-half years ago, some people might have believed that maybe Obamacare would work. Today, nobody believes that.

"It's the classic illustration of liberalism and big government run amok, where people in Washington think they know better than you do about the healthcare you need and about the healthcare your family needs," he added. "What has happened to the Democratic partisanship is that it has confronted the realty of the millions of Americans who are paying the price, who are facing real harms because of Obamacare."

It did not help that the party's most-popular figure, former President Bill Clinton, admonished Obama to change the law to let Americans who are happy with their health plans keep them.

"That speaks volumes — that this thing isn't working, that nobody is defending it," Cruz said. "That really was a signal to an awful lot of Democrats, that the wheels are falling off of this thing.

"We're starting to see a lot more Democrats finally being willing to break from Obamacare, to stop the partisan obstruction they've been engaged in and to start, I hope, beginning to listen to the American people."

Cruz also praised videographer James O'Keefe, who last week released recordings from an undercover investigation showing Obamacare "navigators" advising Americans to lie, ignore procedures, and evade legal requirements when signing up for healthcare.

Other investigations by O'Keefe targeted ACORN, a community organizing group for which President Obama worked when he was a lawyer, and NPR's Ron Schiller, who was exposed courting a pro-Muslim group by disparaging Christians, Jews, Republicans, and the tea party.

"The great thing about what James does is that he just runs a camera and lets people explain what they're doing," Cruz told Newsmax. "The navigators are all about using taxpayer money to fund partisan operatives, and that's fundamentally corrupt.

"It's wrong. It's misusing the machinery of government, and what James has done is simply put on film that these folks understand their partisan operatives. They're not engaged in anything other than trying to mobilize people, to keep Democrats in power to maintain their control over our lives."

The best way to improve Obamacare is to "repeal it outright and let's start over," Cruz said.

"The Democrats are scrambling. They're fleeing a sinking ship. What they're desperately looking for is right now is not a way to fix the problem; they're just looking for a political Band-Aid.

"They're looking for something to cover their political rear ends — but, frankly, they don't make a big enough Band-Aid to do that.

"This thing is fundamentally broken," the senator told Newsmax. "Tinkering around the edges, sticking a Band-Aid on it, is not going to fix the problem."

Cruz said the introduction of Obamacare is another example of how President Obama defies the U.S. Constitution when enforcing the law, Cruz said.

"It's one of the most troubling aspects of the Obama administration: Aside from their radical policy, the way they've implemented it has, sadly, been lawless. Over and over again, this president has said, 'I don't care what the law is; I'm going to refuse to enforce it.'"

While he believes these executive actions are unconstitutional, Cruz stopped short of calling for Obama's impeachment.

"That's a question for the House, ultimately. The House, under the Constitution, makes the decision whether to impeach, and then the Senate is charged with trying it.

"Any impeachment would have to be tried in the United States Senate — and my responsibility would be to render judgment," Cruz added. "I would not urge the House to do anything other than exercise its best judgment, and I would endeavor to the same on my end."

The senator was just as indirect on his aspirations for a White House run in 2016.

"The instincts are to focus on politics, focus on the next elections. I'm trying very hard to keep my focus on the substance," Cruz told Newsmax. "The challenges facing our country are enormous.

"The Senate is the battlefield right now, and my focus is on the U.S. Senate.

"I believe we can and should" retake the Senate in next year's elections, Cruz added. "The terrain is very, very favorable to it.

"If Republicans stand strong, present a clear alternative — stand for free-market principles and the Constitution, stand strong against Obamacare — we'll take the Senate by a significant margin," he predicted. "If we roll over, if we don't stand for anything, that's the easiest way not to take the Senate."

Cruz in 2016
Ted Cruz: Nation Divided Between Washington and Re... (show quote)



Nonsense....

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Nov 18, 2013 09:59:50   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
And calling someone a "Clown" isn't name calling? How come you don't complain about that post too? Do I detect a bit of bigotry here?
Kanonmeister wrote:
Your garbled point can now be known as FRUMCAS posit.

And "left wingers"? Get over name calling.

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Nov 18, 2013 10:33:12   #
DougW Loc: SoCal
 
FrumCA wrote:
Actually my original post is not garbled. Don't know what you looked at. You must have just had a glass of tainted Kool aid. Go back and look at it again. And how is "left winger" considered name calling? Thin skin perhaps?? I'm not going to waste my time taking you to school on this term so look it up.


" Why the " Progressives " go on the attack :

Feeding at the trough of Gov. "Entitlement"
Feeding at the trough of Gov. "Entitlement"...

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Nov 18, 2013 11:12:51   #
TrainNut Loc: Ridin' the rails
 
Gitzo wrote:
How many people do YOU know who have EVER made the un-pardonable MISTAKE of forgetting to click on the "chit-chat" button ? And inasmuch as you seem to be "perfect"....how do YOU propose I move it to where I INTENDED it to go, inn the first place ?


It is good to know that other people like me are not perfect. :thumbup:
We are allowed 1 mistake a year. I have been borrowing and am good up to the year 2046. :roll: :wink: :?

To everyone else ............. :!: :hunf:

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Nov 18, 2013 11:14:52   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
Hey can someone get me some more popcorn and another martini?

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Nov 18, 2013 15:00:22   #
lockhart999
 
Cruz is an idiot....

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Nov 18, 2013 15:03:09   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
While I may not agree with all he says,you wish you had the education that this man has...
lockhart999 wrote:
Cruz is an idiot....

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Nov 18, 2013 15:07:31   #
venturer9 Loc: Newton, Il.
 
Beowulf wrote:
Doesn't belong in this forum. Political crap goes into Chit-Chat.


Someone obviously moved it as the Chit=Chat section is where I found it.. Second Listing

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Nov 18, 2013 15:53:25   #
sumo Loc: Houston suburb
 
lockhart999 wrote:
Cruz is an idiot....


if Cruz is an idiot ...I would hate to think how far down the intelligent spectrum you fall.......

IMHO he is one of about 5 politicians that should remain in
DC....all the rest should be voted out of office and or sent to jail for destroying this once great nation..... Cruz is trying to revive it.

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Nov 18, 2013 16:28:09   #
wvgal Loc: mountain state
 
I have been a member for awhile but have seldom made comments. That being said, I can not believe the rudeness that takes place in some of the forms. It makes me not want to make comments or participate. I am sure I am not the only member who feels this way. Why can't it be said that this subject belongs in another form and leave it at that?

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Nov 18, 2013 16:28:54   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
While I may not agree with all he says,you wish you had the education that this man has...




He's also dishonest...

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Nov 18, 2013 16:35:06   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Obama is too & more so than Cruz... So what ? There isn't a politician that isn't
Twardlow wrote:
He's also dishonest...

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Nov 18, 2013 17:40:57   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
Obama is too & more so than Cruz... So what ? There isn't a politician that isn't


Cruz was all over our TV promising to stop Obamacare if we would only send him money.

THE SAME DAY, he admitted to the DC newspapers that there was no way Republicans could stop Obamacare.

That's sterling character for you.

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