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Nov 17, 2013 23:40:53   #
Gitzo Loc: Indiana
 
Ted Cruz: Nation Divided Between Washington and Rest

Saturday, 16 Nov 2013 08:22 PM
By Todd Beamon and Steve Malzberg


The beleaguered Obamacare program is the best example of the huge rift between entrenched Washington politicians and the American people, Sen. Ted Cruz tells Newsmax.

The biggest rift in the country is not between Democrats and Republicans, he says, but between Washington and the rest of the country.

"There are a lot of politicians in Washington who just aren't listening to the American people — and people are frustrated," the Texas Republican said in an exclusive interview at the annual Restoration Weekend conference in Palm Beach, Fla.

"You take something like Obamacare," he began. "Millions of Americans have been speaking up, saying: 'This is a train wreck. This is a disaster. This is killing jobs. This is forcing people into part-time work.' We've been seeing in the last few weeks that this is taking away the healthcare of millions of Americans

"Yet, Washington hasn't been listening to them. That's the frustration people feel all across this country. That's something I hope will change."

Cruz, 42, a first-term senator backed by the tea party, has been mentioned as a Republican presidential candidate in 2016. He has long opposed Obamacare. In September, he spoke for more than 21 hours on the Senate floor against President Barack Obama's signature domestic policy achievement.

The program has been plagued with problems since the rollout of its individual mandate on Oct. 1. The main Obamacare website, HealthCare.gov, has been riddled with technological and accessibility problems — and millions of Americans have since been dropped by insurance companies because their plans do not meet the law's requirements.

The House voted 261-157 on Friday to allow insurance companies to sell those health policies for another year. Thirty-nine Democrats, including several who face tough challenges in next year's congressional elections, voted for the bill, sponsored by GOP Rep. Fred Upton of Michigan.

The Senate is working on its own version of the Upton plan. For his part, President Obama has pledged to grant a one-year reprieve to Americans whose health policies have been canceled.

"As John Adams said, facts are stubborn things," Cruz told Newsmax, reflecting on the House vote. "And the facts are Obamacare isn't working. At this point, it is the essence of pragmatism to want to repeal Obamacare, because three-and-a-half years ago, some people might have believed that maybe Obamacare would work. Today, nobody believes that.

"It's the classic illustration of liberalism and big government run amok, where people in Washington think they know better than you do about the healthcare you need and about the healthcare your family needs," he added. "What has happened to the Democratic partisanship is that it has confronted the realty of the millions of Americans who are paying the price, who are facing real harms because of Obamacare."

It did not help that the party's most-popular figure, former President Bill Clinton, admonished Obama to change the law to let Americans who are happy with their health plans keep them.

"That speaks volumes — that this thing isn't working, that nobody is defending it," Cruz said. "That really was a signal to an awful lot of Democrats, that the wheels are falling off of this thing.

"We're starting to see a lot more Democrats finally being willing to break from Obamacare, to stop the partisan obstruction they've been engaged in and to start, I hope, beginning to listen to the American people."

Cruz also praised videographer James O'Keefe, who last week released recordings from an undercover investigation showing Obamacare "navigators" advising Americans to lie, ignore procedures, and evade legal requirements when signing up for healthcare.

Other investigations by O'Keefe targeted ACORN, a community organizing group for which President Obama worked when he was a lawyer, and NPR's Ron Schiller, who was exposed courting a pro-Muslim group by disparaging Christians, Jews, Republicans, and the tea party.

"The great thing about what James does is that he just runs a camera and lets people explain what they're doing," Cruz told Newsmax. "The navigators are all about using taxpayer money to fund partisan operatives, and that's fundamentally corrupt.

"It's wrong. It's misusing the machinery of government, and what James has done is simply put on film that these folks understand their partisan operatives. They're not engaged in anything other than trying to mobilize people, to keep Democrats in power to maintain their control over our lives."

The best way to improve Obamacare is to "repeal it outright and let's start over," Cruz said.

"The Democrats are scrambling. They're fleeing a sinking ship. What they're desperately looking for is right now is not a way to fix the problem; they're just looking for a political Band-Aid.

"They're looking for something to cover their political rear ends — but, frankly, they don't make a big enough Band-Aid to do that.

"This thing is fundamentally broken," the senator told Newsmax. "Tinkering around the edges, sticking a Band-Aid on it, is not going to fix the problem."

Cruz said the introduction of Obamacare is another example of how President Obama defies the U.S. Constitution when enforcing the law, Cruz said.

"It's one of the most troubling aspects of the Obama administration: Aside from their radical policy, the way they've implemented it has, sadly, been lawless. Over and over again, this president has said, 'I don't care what the law is; I'm going to refuse to enforce it.'"

While he believes these executive actions are unconstitutional, Cruz stopped short of calling for Obama's impeachment.

"That's a question for the House, ultimately. The House, under the Constitution, makes the decision whether to impeach, and then the Senate is charged with trying it.

"Any impeachment would have to be tried in the United States Senate — and my responsibility would be to render judgment," Cruz added. "I would not urge the House to do anything other than exercise its best judgment, and I would endeavor to the same on my end."

The senator was just as indirect on his aspirations for a White House run in 2016.

"The instincts are to focus on politics, focus on the next elections. I'm trying very hard to keep my focus on the substance," Cruz told Newsmax. "The challenges facing our country are enormous.

"The Senate is the battlefield right now, and my focus is on the U.S. Senate.

"I believe we can and should" retake the Senate in next year's elections, Cruz added. "The terrain is very, very favorable to it.

"If Republicans stand strong, present a clear alternative — stand for free-market principles and the Constitution, stand strong against Obamacare — we'll take the Senate by a significant margin," he predicted. "If we roll over, if we don't stand for anything, that's the easiest way not to take the Senate."

Cruz in 2016

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Nov 17, 2013 23:46:23   #
Beowulf Loc: Aquidneck Island, RI
 
Doesn't belong in this forum. Political crap goes into Chit-Chat.

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Nov 17, 2013 23:54:22   #
Bill Cain Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
clown



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Nov 18, 2013 00:40:25   #
olcoach Loc: Oregon
 
Take this garbage where it belongs.

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Nov 18, 2013 01:10:27   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Gitzo wrote:
Ted Cruz: Nation Divided Between Washington and Rest

Saturday, 16 Nov 2013 08:22 PM
By Todd Beamon and Steve Malzberg


The beleaguered Obamacare program is the best example of the huge rift between entrenched Washington politicians and the American people, Sen. Ted Cruz tells Newsmax.

The biggest rift in the country is not between Democrats and Republicans, he says, but between Washington and the rest of the country.

"There are a lot of politicians in Washington who just aren't listening to the American people — and people are frustrated," the Texas Republican said in an exclusive interview at the annual Restoration Weekend conference in Palm Beach, Fla.

"You take something like Obamacare," he began. "Millions of Americans have been speaking up, saying: 'This is a train wreck. This is a disaster. This is killing jobs. This is forcing people into part-time work.' We've been seeing in the last few weeks that this is taking away the healthcare of millions of Americans

"Yet, Washington hasn't been listening to them. That's the frustration people feel all across this country. That's something I hope will change."

Cruz, 42, a first-term senator backed by the tea party, has been mentioned as a Republican presidential candidate in 2016. He has long opposed Obamacare. In September, he spoke for more than 21 hours on the Senate floor against President Barack Obama's signature domestic policy achievement.

The program has been plagued with problems since the rollout of its individual mandate on Oct. 1. The main Obamacare website, HealthCare.gov, has been riddled with technological and accessibility problems — and millions of Americans have since been dropped by insurance companies because their plans do not meet the law's requirements.

The House voted 261-157 on Friday to allow insurance companies to sell those health policies for another year. Thirty-nine Democrats, including several who face tough challenges in next year's congressional elections, voted for the bill, sponsored by GOP Rep. Fred Upton of Michigan.

The Senate is working on its own version of the Upton plan. For his part, President Obama has pledged to grant a one-year reprieve to Americans whose health policies have been canceled.

"As John Adams said, facts are stubborn things," Cruz told Newsmax, reflecting on the House vote. "And the facts are Obamacare isn't working. At this point, it is the essence of pragmatism to want to repeal Obamacare, because three-and-a-half years ago, some people might have believed that maybe Obamacare would work. Today, nobody believes that.

"It's the classic illustration of liberalism and big government run amok, where people in Washington think they know better than you do about the healthcare you need and about the healthcare your family needs," he added. "What has happened to the Democratic partisanship is that it has confronted the realty of the millions of Americans who are paying the price, who are facing real harms because of Obamacare."

It did not help that the party's most-popular figure, former President Bill Clinton, admonished Obama to change the law to let Americans who are happy with their health plans keep them.

"That speaks volumes — that this thing isn't working, that nobody is defending it," Cruz said. "That really was a signal to an awful lot of Democrats, that the wheels are falling off of this thing.

"We're starting to see a lot more Democrats finally being willing to break from Obamacare, to stop the partisan obstruction they've been engaged in and to start, I hope, beginning to listen to the American people."

Cruz also praised videographer James O'Keefe, who last week released recordings from an undercover investigation showing Obamacare "navigators" advising Americans to lie, ignore procedures, and evade legal requirements when signing up for healthcare.

Other investigations by O'Keefe targeted ACORN, a community organizing group for which President Obama worked when he was a lawyer, and NPR's Ron Schiller, who was exposed courting a pro-Muslim group by disparaging Christians, Jews, Republicans, and the tea party.

"The great thing about what James does is that he just runs a camera and lets people explain what they're doing," Cruz told Newsmax. "The navigators are all about using taxpayer money to fund partisan operatives, and that's fundamentally corrupt.

"It's wrong. It's misusing the machinery of government, and what James has done is simply put on film that these folks understand their partisan operatives. They're not engaged in anything other than trying to mobilize people, to keep Democrats in power to maintain their control over our lives."

The best way to improve Obamacare is to "repeal it outright and let's start over," Cruz said.

"The Democrats are scrambling. They're fleeing a sinking ship. What they're desperately looking for is right now is not a way to fix the problem; they're just looking for a political Band-Aid.

"They're looking for something to cover their political rear ends — but, frankly, they don't make a big enough Band-Aid to do that.

"This thing is fundamentally broken," the senator told Newsmax. "Tinkering around the edges, sticking a Band-Aid on it, is not going to fix the problem."

Cruz said the introduction of Obamacare is another example of how President Obama defies the U.S. Constitution when enforcing the law, Cruz said.

"It's one of the most troubling aspects of the Obama administration: Aside from their radical policy, the way they've implemented it has, sadly, been lawless. Over and over again, this president has said, 'I don't care what the law is; I'm going to refuse to enforce it.'"

While he believes these executive actions are unconstitutional, Cruz stopped short of calling for Obama's impeachment.

"That's a question for the House, ultimately. The House, under the Constitution, makes the decision whether to impeach, and then the Senate is charged with trying it.

"Any impeachment would have to be tried in the United States Senate — and my responsibility would be to render judgment," Cruz added. "I would not urge the House to do anything other than exercise its best judgment, and I would endeavor to the same on my end."

The senator was just as indirect on his aspirations for a White House run in 2016.

"The instincts are to focus on politics, focus on the next elections. I'm trying very hard to keep my focus on the substance," Cruz told Newsmax. "The challenges facing our country are enormous.

"The Senate is the battlefield right now, and my focus is on the U.S. Senate.

"I believe we can and should" retake the Senate in next year's elections, Cruz added. "The terrain is very, very favorable to it.

"If Republicans stand strong, present a clear alternative — stand for free-market principles and the Constitution, stand strong against Obamacare — we'll take the Senate by a significant margin," he predicted. "If we roll over, if we don't stand for anything, that's the easiest way not to take the Senate."

Cruz in 2016
Ted Cruz: Nation Divided Between Washington and Re... (show quote)

This belongs in Chit Chat Gitzo.

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Nov 18, 2013 01:22:36   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
People that know better should be kicked of the forum.
But it never happens, that's why they do it.
Spinless admin.
SS

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Nov 18, 2013 01:37:23   #
Gitzo Loc: Indiana
 
SharpShooter wrote:
People that know better should be kicked of the forum.
But it never happens, that's why they do it.
Spinless admin.
SS



How many people do YOU know who have EVER made the un-pardonable MISTAKE of forgetting to click on the "chit-chat" button ? And inasmuch as you seem to be "perfect"....how do YOU propose I move it to where I INTENDED it to go, inn the first place ?

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Nov 18, 2013 01:39:02   #
Bill Cain Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
Gitzo wrote:
How many people do YOU know who have EVER made the un-pardonable MISTAKE of forgetting to click on the "chit-chat" button ? And inasmuch as you seem to be "perfect"....how do YOU propose I move it to where I INTENDED it to go, inn the first place ?


delete it.



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Nov 18, 2013 02:01:43   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
SharpShooter wrote:
People that know better should be kicked of the forum.
But it never happens, that's why they do it.
Spinless admin.
SS


While I rarely ever agree with Gitzo on Chit Chat, I believe he posted in the wrong forum unintentionally.

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Nov 18, 2013 02:31:24   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
Gitzo wrote:
How many people do YOU know who have EVER made the un-pardonable MISTAKE of forgetting to click on the "chit-chat" button ? And inasmuch as you seem to be "perfect"....how do YOU propose I move it to where I INTENDED it to go, inn the first place ?


Gitzo, honest mistakes happen, I've seen and made many myself.
The fact that you are responding to me, tells me that you are following your post.
So, you are defending yourself, but did it EVER occur to you to apologize for the faulty posting.
Most I've seen apologize immediately.
And for about an hour you can edit out all the content, and repost in the proper section.
You have done none of the above or expressed any type of remorse for the people that you have OFFENDED !
That leads me, and probably all those that have posted, to believe that it was a deliberate act meant to stay there until admin moves it. In the meantime, you intent is coming across, loud and clear.
Gitzo, you are not new here, your course of action should have been swift !!
SS

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Nov 18, 2013 04:09:01   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
Gitzo wrote:
Ted Cruz: Nation Divided Between Washington and Rest

Saturday, 16 Nov 2013 08:22 PM
By Todd Beamon and Steve Malzberg


The beleaguered Obamacare program is the best example of the huge rift between entrenched Washington politicians and the American people, Sen. Ted Cruz tells Newsmax.

The biggest rift in the country is not between Democrats and Republicans, he says, but between Washington and the rest of the country.

"There are a lot of politicians in Washington who just aren't listening to the American people — and people are frustrated," the Texas Republican said in an exclusive interview at the annual Restoration Weekend conference in Palm Beach, Fla.

"You take something like Obamacare," he began. "Millions of Americans have been speaking up, saying: 'This is a train wreck. This is a disaster. This is killing jobs. This is forcing people into part-time work.' We've been seeing in the last few weeks that this is taking away the healthcare of millions of Americans

"Yet, Washington hasn't been listening to them. That's the frustration people feel all across this country. That's something I hope will change."

Cruz, 42, a first-term senator backed by the tea party, has been mentioned as a Republican presidential candidate in 2016. He has long opposed Obamacare. In September, he spoke for more than 21 hours on the Senate floor against President Barack Obama's signature domestic policy achievement.

The program has been plagued with problems since the rollout of its individual mandate on Oct. 1. The main Obamacare website, HealthCare.gov, has been riddled with technological and accessibility problems — and millions of Americans have since been dropped by insurance companies because their plans do not meet the law's requirements.

The House voted 261-157 on Friday to allow insurance companies to sell those health policies for another year. Thirty-nine Democrats, including several who face tough challenges in next year's congressional elections, voted for the bill, sponsored by GOP Rep. Fred Upton of Michigan.

The Senate is working on its own version of the Upton plan. For his part, President Obama has pledged to grant a one-year reprieve to Americans whose health policies have been canceled.

"As John Adams said, facts are stubborn things," Cruz told Newsmax, reflecting on the House vote. "And the facts are Obamacare isn't working. At this point, it is the essence of pragmatism to want to repeal Obamacare, because three-and-a-half years ago, some people might have believed that maybe Obamacare would work. Today, nobody believes that.

"It's the classic illustration of liberalism and big government run amok, where people in Washington think they know better than you do about the healthcare you need and about the healthcare your family needs," he added. "What has happened to the Democratic partisanship is that it has confronted the realty of the millions of Americans who are paying the price, who are facing real harms because of Obamacare."

It did not help that the party's most-popular figure, former President Bill Clinton, admonished Obama to change the law to let Americans who are happy with their health plans keep them.

"That speaks volumes — that this thing isn't working, that nobody is defending it," Cruz said. "That really was a signal to an awful lot of Democrats, that the wheels are falling off of this thing.

"We're starting to see a lot more Democrats finally being willing to break from Obamacare, to stop the partisan obstruction they've been engaged in and to start, I hope, beginning to listen to the American people."

Cruz also praised videographer James O'Keefe, who last week released recordings from an undercover investigation showing Obamacare "navigators" advising Americans to lie, ignore procedures, and evade legal requirements when signing up for healthcare.

Other investigations by O'Keefe targeted ACORN, a community organizing group for which President Obama worked when he was a lawyer, and NPR's Ron Schiller, who was exposed courting a pro-Muslim group by disparaging Christians, Jews, Republicans, and the tea party.

"The great thing about what James does is that he just runs a camera and lets people explain what they're doing," Cruz told Newsmax. "The navigators are all about using taxpayer money to fund partisan operatives, and that's fundamentally corrupt.

"It's wrong. It's misusing the machinery of government, and what James has done is simply put on film that these folks understand their partisan operatives. They're not engaged in anything other than trying to mobilize people, to keep Democrats in power to maintain their control over our lives."

The best way to improve Obamacare is to "repeal it outright and let's start over," Cruz said.

"The Democrats are scrambling. They're fleeing a sinking ship. What they're desperately looking for is right now is not a way to fix the problem; they're just looking for a political Band-Aid.

"They're looking for something to cover their political rear ends — but, frankly, they don't make a big enough Band-Aid to do that.

"This thing is fundamentally broken," the senator told Newsmax. "Tinkering around the edges, sticking a Band-Aid on it, is not going to fix the problem."

Cruz said the introduction of Obamacare is another example of how President Obama defies the U.S. Constitution when enforcing the law, Cruz said.

"It's one of the most troubling aspects of the Obama administration: Aside from their radical policy, the way they've implemented it has, sadly, been lawless. Over and over again, this president has said, 'I don't care what the law is; I'm going to refuse to enforce it.'"

While he believes these executive actions are unconstitutional, Cruz stopped short of calling for Obama's impeachment.

"That's a question for the House, ultimately. The House, under the Constitution, makes the decision whether to impeach, and then the Senate is charged with trying it.

"Any impeachment would have to be tried in the United States Senate — and my responsibility would be to render judgment," Cruz added. "I would not urge the House to do anything other than exercise its best judgment, and I would endeavor to the same on my end."

The senator was just as indirect on his aspirations for a White House run in 2016.

"The instincts are to focus on politics, focus on the next elections. I'm trying very hard to keep my focus on the substance," Cruz told Newsmax. "The challenges facing our country are enormous.

"The Senate is the battlefield right now, and my focus is on the U.S. Senate.

"I believe we can and should" retake the Senate in next year's elections, Cruz added. "The terrain is very, very favorable to it.

"If Republicans stand strong, present a clear alternative — stand for free-market principles and the Constitution, stand strong against Obamacare — we'll take the Senate by a significant margin," he predicted. "If we roll over, if we don't stand for anything, that's the easiest way not to take the Senate."

Cruz in 2016
Ted Cruz: Nation Divided Between Washington and Re... (show quote)


Biggest problem with this country is Ted Cruz. Post inappropriate here.

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Nov 18, 2013 07:20:47   #
ted45 Loc: Delaware
 
SharpShooter wrote:
Gitzo, honest mistakes happen, I've seen and made many myself.
The fact that you are responding to me, tells me that you are following your post.
So, you are defending yourself, but did it EVER occur to you to apologize for the faulty posting.
Most I've seen apologize immediately.
And for about an hour you can edit out all the content, and repost in the proper section.
You have done none of the above or expressed any type of remorse for the people that you have OFFENDED !
That leads me, and probably all those that have posted, to believe that it was a deliberate act meant to stay there until admin moves it. In the meantime, you intent is coming across, loud and clear.
Gitzo, you are not new here, your course of action should have been swift !!
SS
Gitzo, honest mistakes happen, I've seen and made ... (show quote)


Why would anyone be offended by an effort at honest debate?

Admin automatically moves these conversations to Chit Chat. I sometimes think the folks in Chit Chat are rude an offensive, but it appears there are rude an offensive people in every part of UHH. Gitzo made a mistake, the world is not going to end because of it.

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Nov 18, 2013 07:52:46   #
JBTaylor Loc: In hiding again
 
ted45 wrote:
Why would anyone be offended by an effort at honest debate?

Admin automatically moves these conversations to Chit Chat. I sometimes think the folks in Chit Chat are rude an offensive, but it appears there are rude an offensive people in every part of UHH. Gitzo made a mistake, the world is not going to end because of it.


:thumbup: :thumbup:

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Nov 18, 2013 08:45:17   #
FrumCA
 
When there's no rationale argument to refute someone's position (in this case, Ted Cruz's), left-wingers generally go on the attack. This thread is a case in point.

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Nov 18, 2013 09:32:27   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
The thread is now on chit chat, so swing away!

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