Ron K. Loc: Upstate NY.

Problem is, we're not a Christian nation. Hell, our own President said so.

Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal

Perhaps you should take a look at the Establishment Clause, which is the basis of our understanding of the relationship between Church and State. Also, there is a very long chain of case law, including SCOTUS rulings that support the basics of this separation.

The very idea that religious organizations are tax exempt is derived from this separation. If you argue that there is no separation, then you need to argue for the taxation of religious organizations as well.

COI Jack Loc: Missouri

Tax them! They are businesses, like any other businesses.

Budnjax Loc: NE Florida

Helping the poor is not the option....most of the federal government giveaways go to the rich and powerful.....Wall Street, Big Labor, companies like Google and Comcast which routinely support leftists policies in return for tax bennies. Amazing how so many of the rich and super-rich all support the Left.

TrainNut Loc: Ridin' the rails

You are a Christian so you are never poor you just do not have a lot of money.

I have 5 children so I am a multimillionaire.
Millionaires have things worth a lot of money not just a lot of money.

TrainNut Loc: Ridin' the rails

But the left says that they are for the people?

TrainNut Loc: Ridin' the rails

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Lmarc Loc: Ojojona, Honduras

Christian values indicate that we, as individuals, should help the legitimately needy, but those values DON'T say the government should take money from the people and dole it out haphazardly. If a person really has those values, Christian or not, he/she will find a way to help someone truly in need.

How many people here would give a cent or a minute to help anyone if it wasn't forced upon them by taxation, most of which is wasted or stolen by bureaucracies to buy Democrat votes, with precious little ever getting to anyone actually in need? Not many, I dare say.

Ron K. Loc: Upstate NY.

Well said!!!

TrainNut Loc: Ridin' the rails

As a Christian I help people all the time. Not just with money but with time, good advice and questions that help them understand how they got to need help.
Very few can not help themselves. Most make bad decisions and they can understand when you take time to talk to them.

A lot of people will say "I do not have enough money when they are spending it on things they want instead of the things they need.

The government gives money to people that do not need it.

ole sarg Loc: south florida

Well that seemed to work well before and during the depression!

Learn some history and then come back

TrainNut Loc: Ridin' the rails

"Well that seemed to work well before and during the depression!"
So what changed? Why will it not work now?

Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana

Take another look at the First Amendment. Where does it say that Congress can make Laws against Religion? It says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..." Congress can not establish a State Religion - Congress can not make Laws prohibiting the rights of the people to practice their respective Religion. Just because Congress HAS made such Laws, those Laws are Unconstitutional.
The only separation is that the Government can not get involved in the religious rights of the people but that that dose not mean that the people have to give up their religious views and rights where it concerns the government in their lives. Even a President has the right to worship God and to be influenced by his Religion as long as he dose not try to force a theocratic Government upon the People. To do so would be Unconstitutional because Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.
A Churches Income is based on Donations. You can not tax Donations.

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

TrainNut Loc: Ridin' the rails

Every time Obama says "God bless you" he is violating the law.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebF8uoK4nl8

singleviking Loc: Lake Sebu Eco Park, Philippines

Where the hell do you think elected officials get the money for programs to help the poor and other assistance? They sure don't take it out of their own wallets. And as far as Social Security is concerned, we all paid into a system that is now being ravaged by people who want benefits but they never contributed, so we're all being ripped off by your so called philanthropic elected officials for the purposes of gaining votes at the ballot box from those who are leaches on a system that has now gone mad.