B4b00n5 Loc: Wiltshire

I'm sure someone will have something to say

speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho

I think it is a good thing, if tax dollars are used to help the poor. I don't care if a country is based on Christian values.

chienfou Loc: Valley Stream, NY

Well said, Jimmy!

manderson Loc: Northeast Nebraska

Sorry, but I disagree. It's not up to the gov't to take from one and give to another. It's up to each individual person to decide how much and to who the help should be given. Long before welfare programs, people used to get help from religious groups or families actually took care of each other. Not real sure, but I don't think the Constitution or Bill of Rights says the gov't can tax for the purpose of supporting others. I think as a Christian or good citizen, we should help those who need it. But not the gov'ts responsibility.

B4b00n5 Loc: Wiltshire

But the point is that for a country that seems to pay such close attention to the bible, this seems like a clear case of picking and choosing the bits you want to adhere to. I'm not an american or religious and actually think that politicians should have to state their religion so that the public are aware of their influences prior to voting. Furthermore i think the french have got it right by keeping religion and government entirely seperate. But you can't have your cake and eat it. The chap in the original picture obviously put it a little more stylishly than me.

manderson Loc: Northeast Nebraska

This country only pays close attention to the bible when it suits their purpose. I am a firm believer that the federal gov't should have a hands off approach to its citizens. I don't believe our founding fathers ever meant for the federal gov't to tell its citizens how to live, what to do, what not to do, what to eat, etc. Our federal gov't has become quite oppressive. Our Congress has decided that they know what's best for me and my family and has overstepped its bounds. Our country has now become polarized between those who are dependent on the gov't and those who want to be independent of the fed gov't.

B4b00n5 Loc: Wiltshire

Every other time Christianity or politics (or both) is mentioned there is a huge raft of responses. Weirdly that isn't the case this time. I wonder why?

venturer9 Loc: Newton, Il.

Being a Christian, I believe that instead of helping the poor, we actually need to fund more abortion doctors... which, of course, will indirectly help the poor....

IN CASE YOU DON"T UNDERSTAND IT.. THAT IS A BIT OF SATIRE UP ABOVE

Manderson....I can tell you exactly how much I give to charitable institutions each year, and Although you would have to come here and read the notations on my monthly
appt. calendar with 3X3" squares for the days of how much time I spend in volunteer work. And I can give you the names (but I won't unless they agree) of the older people that I take to the Dr., Pick up and take to Church and take food boxes to them because they cannot get out and about by themselves...... I do my part, let the government do theirs without using my money.....

Mike

venturer9 Loc: Newton, Il.

Could be because like me... I read Manderson's post just about 3 minutes ago and yours less time ago....

GOT HERE AS SOON AS I COULD....

Could be that the Christians on the Forum are a bit weary of answering posts that are either blatantly anti Christian or are dumb enough to just avoid..

Mike

Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana

Because you have got it wrong. As a Christian, most people wants to keep religion out of the government and for the government to stay out of our personal lives. That would include our religious life.

chienfou Loc: Valley Stream, NY

HUH..except when it comes to abortion and gay marriage then we want the Government into private lives. We want the Government to stand between the Doctor and his patient and we want unconstitutional laws (Defense Of Marriage Act) to keep certain people from getting married.

If it's true that "As a Christian, most people wants to keep religion out of the government" then those christians should speak loud and clear against those who want to impose their beliefs on the rest of the population.

Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana

HUH..? How many times have we heard the left cry separation of church and state, something that dose not exist in the Constitution. What part of Congress shall make no laws don't you understand? This means... Government, butt out of our personal life... That includes taking the life of an unborn baby, you know, those little humans in a womans body that has not been born yet. The Constitution applies here also.

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

COI Jack Loc: Missouri

Charity is not necessarily only found in religion, but I agree with former president Carter. He is a good man who lives his beliefs. You can't hate the poor and be a Christian. I would rather see my government helping the poor than building bridges over nothing on roads that lead to nowhere.

Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana

You can not hate the rich and be a Christian either. Which means being a Christian has nothing to do with helping. I am a poor Christian. No body helps me.

manderson Loc: Northeast Nebraska

I don't think anyone said anything about hating the poor. Where our gov't runs into problems is differentiating between the truly poor and those who are sponging off the gov't. Unfortunately I see the abuse side of the welfare system and it makes me sick. I'm all about helping the elderly and my family members, people should take care of their own. When you call social programs "entitlements" we have an issue. The Constitution never said the fed gov't would be responsible for those too lazy to work or just don't want to work. I am always amazed how many people will say that they are entitled to some program. That's wrong, they are not entitled to anything they haven't worked for or earned themselves. This is why so many people also have a problem with Obama saying things like "redistribution of wealth". Why should I work hard and long just to have the gov't decide to take from me and give to others that don't want to do it for themselves. There is nothing wrong with public servants wanting to help the poor, after all, it gets them reelected. But using public money, tax dollars, is not the answer.