Two Tall, Skinny Lawyers
Sep 24, 2013 00:06:11 #
silver wrote:
It's not difficult to amaze a 6 foot pygmy.More disgusting and idiotic posting. I am amazed at how racist and ignorant some people are on this site. It is truly shameful.
Sep 24, 2013 00:11:08 #
The Fat Engineer wrote:
Is Fords Theatre still open?
Can we get him there????? :-)
Can we get him there????? :-)
Sep 24, 2013 00:24:28 #
On Page 2 of this post, Marty Cordova, who writes from a secure undisclosed location, wrote:
3.President Barack Obama will always be remembered as the President that brought affordable health insurance to all Americans (just like FDR brought us Social Security).
Just read a story about a family, Andy and Amy Mangione and their 2 boys from Louisville, KY whose high deductible individual health insurance will increase from $333 / mo to $965 / mo.
HUMANA is their carrier. The letter showing the new premium carried an explanation for the increase:
" If your policy premium increased, you should know this isn't unique to Humana -- premium increases generally will occur industry-wide."
"Increases aren't based on your individual claims or changes in health status," it continued. "Many other factors go in to your premium including: ACA compliance, including the addition of new essential health benefits."
ACA, of course, is the abbreviation for the President's new law, the Affordable Care Act -- which for the Mangiones will be anything but affordable because the law adds a new tax on every insurance policy and requires a list of additional benefits the Mangiones didnt want to pay for.
Robert Zirkelbach, spokesman for American Health Insurance Plans, which represents insurers,explained that "for people who currently choose to purchase a high deductible, low premium policy that's more affordable for them, they are now being required to add all these new benefits to their policy.
That," he says, "is also going to add to the cost of their health insurance premiums."
So, Marty, as you say he will, I sincerely hope that Obama will be remembered for this load of crap he erroneously calls the ACA.
I hope the voters see what Obama has dropped on them and he becomes even MORE of a lame duck as the 2014 elections take the Senate away from that tyrant Harry Reid.
So, on THAT point, Marty, I HOPE you are right.
Wake Up, people !!!
Phil
3.President Barack Obama will always be remembered as the President that brought affordable health insurance to all Americans (just like FDR brought us Social Security).
Just read a story about a family, Andy and Amy Mangione and their 2 boys from Louisville, KY whose high deductible individual health insurance will increase from $333 / mo to $965 / mo.
HUMANA is their carrier. The letter showing the new premium carried an explanation for the increase:
" If your policy premium increased, you should know this isn't unique to Humana -- premium increases generally will occur industry-wide."
"Increases aren't based on your individual claims or changes in health status," it continued. "Many other factors go in to your premium including: ACA compliance, including the addition of new essential health benefits."
ACA, of course, is the abbreviation for the President's new law, the Affordable Care Act -- which for the Mangiones will be anything but affordable because the law adds a new tax on every insurance policy and requires a list of additional benefits the Mangiones didnt want to pay for.
Robert Zirkelbach, spokesman for American Health Insurance Plans, which represents insurers,explained that "for people who currently choose to purchase a high deductible, low premium policy that's more affordable for them, they are now being required to add all these new benefits to their policy.
That," he says, "is also going to add to the cost of their health insurance premiums."
So, Marty, as you say he will, I sincerely hope that Obama will be remembered for this load of crap he erroneously calls the ACA.
I hope the voters see what Obama has dropped on them and he becomes even MORE of a lame duck as the 2014 elections take the Senate away from that tyrant Harry Reid.
So, on THAT point, Marty, I HOPE you are right.
Wake Up, people !!!
Phil
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Sep 24, 2013 01:49:07 #
magicray wrote:
Was he a tall, skinny lawyer?
Good one........ He was actually a little shorter, a lot smarter and he owns and runs a successful business !
Sep 24, 2013 02:25:59 #
All lawers are liers and should be bared from holding office. That should rub some feathers the wrong way. Wow its fun to start these guys getting off their feed. And they bite every time.
Sep 24, 2013 05:18:01 #
Hal81 wrote:
All lawers are liers and should be bared from holding office. That should rub some feathers the wrong way. Wow its fun to start these guys getting off their feed. And they bite every time.
Why should all lawyers graves be dug to at least fifty feet?
Because deep down, they are not all that bad.
Sep 24, 2013 06:01:10 #
Tom G
Loc: Atlanta, GA
phil7782 wrote:
Just the facts..... br br Couldn't resist this ... (show quote)
Hey Phlip,
Your deceitful suggestions, denigrating insinuations, and subtly vindictive comments speak volumes about who & what you are.
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Sep 24, 2013 09:12:58 #
phill7782,
At least I use my real name.
Let me begin by saying that you are full of . . . . ah, never mind we all know what you are full off. Another thing we all know is that you know nothing about the ACA. Kentucky has yet to set up its Exchange - which each state is required to do by law by the end of October. The Exchange will force competition amongst Insurance carriers and will audit insurance rates. The rate increase you are speaking to has NOTHING to do with ACA because the insurance rates in Kentucky are currently under the control of the State's Insurance Commission (and in Kentucky the Insurance Commission is controlled by the Insurance loby). By the way - insurance rates are set individually by each State's Insurance Commission. The ACA will force every insurer to justify their rates and send refunds (as has happened in 27 states) to the insured party.
When the ACA is fully enacted in 2014 insurance rates will be one fourth to one third lower than they are now, 40 million more Americans will be insured, Hospital Emergency rooms will no longer be the primary care giver for uninsured Americans, Hospitals will be paid for their services (today hospitals MUST provide medical services even if the person has no insurance so hospitals rely on State tax monies to cover uncompensated services), thereby, reducing the tax strain on tax payers (this means lowering taxes), and Insurance companies will no longer be allowed to cherry pick customers (you can't be turned down because of prior existing conditions, and you can't be dropped because you file a claim).
Next time phill7782 get your facts straight and try thinking for a change. Who knows, you might even find the experience interesting.
Hillary in 2016
At least I use my real name.
Let me begin by saying that you are full of . . . . ah, never mind we all know what you are full off. Another thing we all know is that you know nothing about the ACA. Kentucky has yet to set up its Exchange - which each state is required to do by law by the end of October. The Exchange will force competition amongst Insurance carriers and will audit insurance rates. The rate increase you are speaking to has NOTHING to do with ACA because the insurance rates in Kentucky are currently under the control of the State's Insurance Commission (and in Kentucky the Insurance Commission is controlled by the Insurance loby). By the way - insurance rates are set individually by each State's Insurance Commission. The ACA will force every insurer to justify their rates and send refunds (as has happened in 27 states) to the insured party.
When the ACA is fully enacted in 2014 insurance rates will be one fourth to one third lower than they are now, 40 million more Americans will be insured, Hospital Emergency rooms will no longer be the primary care giver for uninsured Americans, Hospitals will be paid for their services (today hospitals MUST provide medical services even if the person has no insurance so hospitals rely on State tax monies to cover uncompensated services), thereby, reducing the tax strain on tax payers (this means lowering taxes), and Insurance companies will no longer be allowed to cherry pick customers (you can't be turned down because of prior existing conditions, and you can't be dropped because you file a claim).
Next time phill7782 get your facts straight and try thinking for a change. Who knows, you might even find the experience interesting.
Hillary in 2016
Sep 24, 2013 09:14:59 #
Sep 24, 2013 09:40:04 #
davidinva
Loc: Shenandoah Valley of VA
Danilo wrote:
I don't see too much wrong with bashing, we all ha... (show quote)
Agree. Perhaps it's time to remember Pogo Possum: "We have met the enemy and he is us."
Sep 24, 2013 12:08:40 #
Well, it looks like Marty and TomG have resorted to the old tactic of attacking the speaker, making generalizations without supporting FACTS and in general, throwing a tantrum.
Evidently, they can't deal with the issues in a civil manner.
So, as is my previously stated position, they are welcome to post further on this matter, but since I consider their comments irrelevant and un-important, I will just ignore them in the future.
Marty, TomG, you are dismissed.
Phil
Evidently, they can't deal with the issues in a civil manner.
So, as is my previously stated position, they are welcome to post further on this matter, but since I consider their comments irrelevant and un-important, I will just ignore them in the future.
Marty, TomG, you are dismissed.
Phil
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Sep 24, 2013 13:03:31 #
Marty Cordova wrote:
When the ACA is fully enacted in 2014 insurance rates will be one fourth to one third lower than they are now
Adding thousands of people with expensive pre-existing conditions will not lower the rates, the opposite is true.
Also, adding 40,000,000 people to a system that has a finite number of doctors, imagine the wait time.
Sep 24, 2013 17:23:55 #
Regarding "Universal Health Care", I would be interested to hear from our readers that live in Canada, England, Australia and elsewhere for info on how their health care systems actually work.
ie: what are the wait times for appointments, premium costs if any, condition of hospitals and anything else?
My sister-in-law lives north of Montreal and has stated many times that emergency care is top notch, but for "routine" issues or to be referred to a "specialist" can take months to be seen.
She also has the option to use "private" health coverage through her employer and prefers that since the care is much more timely. Her payroll taxes are federal, provincial, "social security" retirement and a public health care tax. Her Public Health Care tax is as much as her Federal Tax. So, the chunk taken out of her paycheck is no small amount by ANY stretch of the imagination.
Since the US Gov't and the States don't have the exchanges in operation until Oct. 1, you can use the rate calculator from Kaiser Family Foundation (a completely NEUTRAL party, BTW) at:
http://kff.org/interactive/subsidy-calculator/
and see what this Obama Care will REALLY cost you.
My coverage for my wife and me went from $660 / mo to $1,400 so ANYONE that says ObamaCare will LOWER costs needs to see for themselves.
Phil
ie: what are the wait times for appointments, premium costs if any, condition of hospitals and anything else?
My sister-in-law lives north of Montreal and has stated many times that emergency care is top notch, but for "routine" issues or to be referred to a "specialist" can take months to be seen.
She also has the option to use "private" health coverage through her employer and prefers that since the care is much more timely. Her payroll taxes are federal, provincial, "social security" retirement and a public health care tax. Her Public Health Care tax is as much as her Federal Tax. So, the chunk taken out of her paycheck is no small amount by ANY stretch of the imagination.
Since the US Gov't and the States don't have the exchanges in operation until Oct. 1, you can use the rate calculator from Kaiser Family Foundation (a completely NEUTRAL party, BTW) at:
http://kff.org/interactive/subsidy-calculator/
and see what this Obama Care will REALLY cost you.
My coverage for my wife and me went from $660 / mo to $1,400 so ANYONE that says ObamaCare will LOWER costs needs to see for themselves.
Phil
Sep 24, 2013 19:01:56 #
travelwp wrote:
I guess you and I would be better off if those 40,000,000 didn't get any healthcare. It's already an hour and a half wait here in Florida. I'm fortunate I have learned to give myself CPR. What do we wait for anyway? A blood pressure and weight check that I can do at home, an order for routine blood work and RX's for medications that do more harm than good. "You've had your 5 minutes. Next!" Adding thousands of people with expensive pre-existing conditions will not lower the rates, the opposite is true.
Also, adding 40,000,000 people to a system that has a finite number of doctors, imagine the wait time.
Also, adding 40,000,000 people to a system that has a finite number of doctors, imagine the wait time.
:shock:
Sep 24, 2013 20:27:00 #
The ACA WILL go into effect starting October 1st (start of sign-up through exchanges). Only 6 more days. Nothing you say or do can stop it. You've tried and lost. You lost in Congress, you lost at the Supreme Court, and you lost with the 2012 General Elections. Once it goes into effect the public will know that you and your friends were wrong.
Scare tactics won't work. Republicans tried that with Medicare in 1968 - it didn't work. Now not even Republicans are willing to give it up.
The WSJ, several Republican Governors (example Kentucky and New Jersey), and Republican Senate leaders (even the Sr. Senator from Texas) have come to that realization. Now Senator Cruz is reading "Green Eggs and Ham" on the Senate floor. That's what your fight has come to. He's such a clown.
Hillary in 2016.
Scare tactics won't work. Republicans tried that with Medicare in 1968 - it didn't work. Now not even Republicans are willing to give it up.
The WSJ, several Republican Governors (example Kentucky and New Jersey), and Republican Senate leaders (even the Sr. Senator from Texas) have come to that realization. Now Senator Cruz is reading "Green Eggs and Ham" on the Senate floor. That's what your fight has come to. He's such a clown.
Hillary in 2016.
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