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Sep 14, 2013 09:31:27   #
RDH
 
DaveHam wrote:
Windows 8 is a difficult operating system to use with a number of products. Also Microsoft is following the lead of Apple and restricting use of some applications to those bought via their store so there are some freebies that worked with versions up to Windows 7 that do not work with Windows 8.

What these greedy people will do to screw more money out of the user!

The suggestion of buying a PC and loading Windows 7 is probably the best at this time.

Windows 8 has not been well received by the IT industry in general and may possibly suffer the same as the infamous Windows Vista.

I for one will not be going the 8 route.
Windows 8 is a difficult operating system to use w... (show quote)


You will note that the criticism of win 8 is largely coming from those who have not used it or are marginally computer competent. This doesn't mean they are bad people just not very adept at using a computer. I have been using eight since last November and find it a bit better than seven. 8 seems a little more tolerant of vintage hardware and software than 7. That said I would not upgrade win 7 to get win 8, but upgrading from win xp or vista I would go with 8. By all means use one of the shell programs to get the start button back, but then win 8.1 will probably do that for you.

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Sep 14, 2013 09:42:53   #
Phreedom Loc: Kitchener, Ontario, Canada
 
sodapop wrote:
Dumb question: Do you need a special monoter for a PC to use the touch screen feature?


Yes. You need a monitor with touch screen capability. Google it.

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Sep 14, 2013 09:44:53   #
ebbote Loc: Hockley, Texas
 
If you have been on Tom's Hardware you would read many horror stories on win8 in there forum before win8 even came out. All their recommendations, don't get it, it's a terrible OS, can't live without the start button, problems with drivers, metro ui on and on.

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Sep 14, 2013 09:45:35   #
john vance Loc: Granbury,Texas
 
sodapop wrote:
Searched UHH for comments on 8, not too many recent ones. I have to get a new computer soon (PC) and have heard so many horror stories about Windows 8, especially in the realm of post processing. Between that and the daunting task of moving all my photos to a new computer, can anyone give me any encouragement?
I have to keep in mind that I have a very limited income
I have not had any problems with win 8 works great. nothing problematic about transferring photos, just put them on a thumb drive and copy them to your new system under pictures.

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Sep 14, 2013 09:48:23   #
ebbote Loc: Hockley, Texas
 
What I have about Win8.1 is that they will not a start button like we all want.

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Sep 14, 2013 10:00:47   #
windshoppe Loc: Arizona
 
Picdude wrote:
I switched from Windows XP to Windows 8 at the beginning of this year. I think the biggest issue that people have trouble with on Windows 8 is it's "Different". If you let yourself get used to the "Metro" or "Tile" screen you can set it up to be quite functionally useful. You can enter IE from either the start screen or desktop screen. I do not like starting from the start (metro) screen, but that may be a set-up issue. I use Photoshop CS6 and some Lightroom 4 and really have no issues other than my lack of knowledge of the software, and that would be the same on a Windows 8 or XP machine.

Bottom line, if you go in with the attitude that change is inherently bad, they never should have changed anything and you'll never figure this new crap out, then you're going to hate Windows 8. If you go in with an open mind and attempt to learn the differences you will find that the experience is nowhere near as daunting or horrific as it has been made out to be.
I switched from Windows XP to Windows 8 at the beg... (show quote)


My experience exactly. I will say, however, that apart from not liking the Windows 8 platform, I have had no issues whatsoever with pp. I use both Lightroom 5 and CS5 with no functionality issues.

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Sep 14, 2013 10:13:51   #
gidavidson
 
I moved all my photos, use lightroom5, Photoshop Elements 11, and Topaz filters, all working just fine with Windows 8. There is a learning curve as Windows 8 is a new book cover, however, the working background is basically the same as windows 7. I work right off the desktop option in windows 8 just like I did before. I understand the update windows 8.1 is due out next month, will be a free upgrade for you. No start button now but supposed to be a revised one on windows 8.1. You can go online and find a download to add the old style windows start button if you want. :D

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Sep 14, 2013 10:26:59   #
StephenVL Loc: Los Angeles, USA
 
tommyf wrote:
Very simple solution.....OS10.8.4; the absolute best and most reliable system out there, especially for working in LR5 or any of the Adobe products. And I have both systems, Mac in Fl, stupid PC in Maine, which will change soon.


I would give that a try but it will not run on any of my 4 computers. It works on Macs only.

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Sep 14, 2013 10:28:58   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
RJM wrote:
Was going to say the same thing!

Works brilliantly.

That's the way I went.

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Sep 14, 2013 10:30:56   #
singleviking Loc: Lake Sebu Eco Park, Philippines
 
JR1 wrote:
Yes, remove 8 and get XP or windows 7


JR1;
The upgrade to WIN7-64 or WIN8 allows for the installation of up to 32 Gig of RAM which significantly improves processing speeds in PP. Your suggestion of using XP is rediculous since new drivers for peripherals and new hardware and software will all be geared to the 64 bit program format. Why inhibit your machine by installing a 4 cylinder engine into a sports car speed motherboard? The 64 bit OS and the improvements in internal bus speed and increased RAM are significant advances that XP just can't compete with. Some people may need to utiliize the virtual 32 bit embedded OS for older 32 programs, but they will eventually see the advantages of the new programs and 64 bit OS and the benefits of having all that extra RAM at their disposal.
Yes, for many here on on UHH, the METRO screen layout can be confusing and more oriented toward hand held devices, but that can be easily reverted back to the old WIN7 format. There are a few property and other menus that seem to disappear, but if you search the edges with your cursor, most can be found.

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Sep 14, 2013 10:40:00   #
demarlow Loc: Broken Arrow, Ok
 
Get an all in one. You will not have to use the touch screen if you don't want to. I have windows 8 and really do not like it. And, I am NOT computer INCOMPENTENT. I had been using a 27" HDTV as a monitor. Windows 8 kept saying it couldn't run this or that program because the resolution on the screen was too low. Raised the resolution and crashed the hard drive. HP sent me a new one and I had it installed. Never had a problem with XP or 7 while using the HDTV. Buy the way, Windows 8 is actually Windows Vista 8, which explains a lot.

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Sep 14, 2013 10:45:52   #
JoeG Loc: Tampa, FL
 
sodapop wrote:
Dumb question: Do you need a special monoter for a PC to use the touch screen feature?

Unfortunately, Yes. It must be touchscreen capable. If not, you can only use mouse and keyboard.

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Sep 14, 2013 10:50:33   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
ebbote wrote:
If you have been on Tom's Hardware you would read many horror stories on win8 in there forum before win8 even came out. All their recommendations, don't get it, it's a terrible OS, can't live without the start button, problems with drivers, metro ui on and on.


You clearly have not read the entirety of this thread. There are several third party start menus available on line for free that look just like the Windows 7 start menu and give you the option to boot directly to the desktop bypassing the Metro screen. What you end up with is a thoroughly Windows 7 experience on a faster and more robust operating system. I don't know anything about Tom's Hardware, but I do know about Windows having used it professionally since Windows 3.1 in 1992. As a retired software developer it is by far the best windows experience once you suppress the Metro screen, boot directly to the desktop and restore the Windows 7 start menu. Anyone can do this quickly and easily with free 3rd party products like Classic Shell http://www.classicshell.net/

Many people who bash Windows 8 often never used it themselves or never attempted to find out how to make it a better experience for themselves. If you don't want to use Windows 8 that is your choice, but its also your loss.

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Sep 14, 2013 10:50:43   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
MT Shooter wrote:
Windows 8 actually works really well, once you modify it to get full functionality back.
Classic Shell makes this happen quite well, and its free and doesn't clutter anything up with ads:
http://classicshell.net/


Very interesting. I like it. I looked at computers the other day when I was at Best Buy and they all have Win 8. One sales person hates it so much that when I purchased his last computer he put 7 on it but he said it wasn't cheap and it wasn't that easy. Computers have drivers for video cards, USB ports, and various other things on the motherboard that need to be there for it to function properly.

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Sep 14, 2013 10:52:50   #
JoeG Loc: Tampa, FL
 
demarlow wrote:
Get an all in one. You will not have to use the touch screen if you don't want to. I have windows 8 and really do not like it. And, I am NOT computer INCOMPENTENT. I had been using a 27" HDTV as a monitor. Windows 8 kept saying it couldn't run this or that program because the resolution on the screen was too low. Raised the resolution and crashed the hard drive. HP sent me a new one and I had it installed. Never had a problem with XP or 7 while using the HDTV. Buy the way, Windows 8 is actually Windows Vista 8, which explains a lot.
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I'm surprised by your response that you think Windows 8 is Vista. Too funny. I find Windows 8 very stable and way more capable than the older Windows platforms. I guess that's why change impacts people differently. I wouldn't use Windows 8 on a non-touchscreen computer. You lose the key functionality the software was meant to "wow" you. No software solves everyone's needs. That's why we purchase so many different technologies.

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