LDB415 wrote:
A gun is an inanimate object just as are kitchen knives, toasters, televisions and toilet paper. Like it or not, blind people are allowed to own all of those things. There is no argument or debate. That's the law and in the case of the gun not only the law but the Constitutionally guaranteed right. Time to shut up and move on as there is no argument, there is no debate, there is no discussion, there is just the law and their rights.
Cars are also inanimate objects but do require insurance. If owning a gun also required liability insurance, that may go some way to tackleing the problem.
"Cars are also inanimate objects but do require insurance. If owning a gun also required liability insurance, that may go some way to tackleing the problem."
Excellent idea, liability insurance.
Also, as I told my children,the privilege of driving a car is something you earn, not a right.
sb
Loc: Florida's East Coast
Hmmmm...they let people use their mouths even if they have no brain - and they are apparently even qualified to be members of congress!
Actually, I saw a big news spread a few years ago about how they were teaching blind people to use cameras. They showed a lot of very random photos. To say the least, I was not impressed, and I really didn't get the point. While it is true that Beethoven was stone cold deaf when he composed the 9th Symphony, he could HEAR the music in his head, so he knew what it would sound like. (In fact, it has been said that he composed most of his music entirely in his head and wrote it down only when he had it right. Awesome brainpower!)
jbrown wrote:
" This includes people who are completely blind.
If they shoot someone will the libs still call the shooter a racist?
sye
Loc: The Old Dominion Near DC
jbrown wrote:
"There is a controversy in Iowa where the state has started a program to issue permits to carry guns in public to people who are legally blind. This includes people who are completely blind. Disability advocates insist that any denial of a permit for a gun to a blind person would violate the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA).
State officials insist that state law does not allow them to deny an Iowan the right to carry a weapon based on physical ability."
http://jonathanturley.org/2013/09/10/iowa-to-issue-gun-permits-to-the-blind/"There is a controversy in Iowa where the sta... (
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STATES RIGHTS -- That's the way it should be !!! The Feds do not have to be involved in how the Bill of Rights are exercised within each of the 50 states, BUT the Feds need to help enforce them.
ON top of that, the state's residents should also have the right to decide if they want their state to ban firearms ownership. If so, so be it.
I don't think that side of the coin has been flipped yet in places like NY, NJ, IL and the District of Columbia (not a state but it still has people who WANT to live within its boundaries. NOW THAT'S NUTS.)
sye wrote:
STATES RIGHTS -- That's the way it should be !!! The Feds do not have to be involved in how the Bill of Rights are exercised within each of the 50 states, BUT the Feds need to help enforce them.
ON top of that, the state's residents should also have the right to decide if they want their state to ban firearms ownership. If so, so be it.
I don't think that side of the coin has been flipped yet in places like NY, NJ, IL and the District of Columbia (not a state but it still has people who WANT to live within its boundaries. NOW THAT'S NUTS.)
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All I can say is that the Supreme Court disagrees with you. The states are bound, in most cases, to follow the Bill of Rights.
Gitzo UH wrote:
Wonders never cease ! I have read Frank's post 5 times now, and I can't find anything in it that that I disagree with ! Which seems to indicate, even liberals have common sense "sometimes". (There may be hope for Frank after all ?)
Shot by a blind man? why not, the whole country is being goosed by a black man
Wellhiem wrote:
Cars are also inanimate objects but do require insurance. If owning a gun also required liability insurance, that may go some way to tackleing the problem.
Another slippery slope right there, basing the availability of one's Constitutional right on the requirement that they buy an insurance product.
An important consideration, learned from living with a "legally Blind" person for awhile. Legally blind is not "sightless". My grandmother had 3 percent sight vision in one eye, could discern people entering a room, could read, with a magnifier, and raised three children in that condition. It would seem that while a sightless person with a weapon would be a danger to themselves and other, I have known legally blind folks that would be able to hit a body sized target as well as I could.I an sure it could happen, but I cant imagine a sightless individual feel ing comfortable with a weapon, unless it was actually assumed that a caretaker could access it.In that case the caretaker ought to apply for the license
kcornman wrote:
Another slippery slope right there, basing the availability of one's Constitutional right on the requirement that they buy an insurance product.
May be, but if the car had been around in 1776 would people now be driving without the need for insurance? I'd also just like to point out that "the right to bear arms", is an amendment to the constitution. Therefore the constitution is not carved in stone.
In my humble opinion, I feel that the ADA has grown legs of it's own and is now becoming a monster that no one can control.
How's this scenario: Late at night, blind person hears noise down stairs. Goes down with gun; burglar hears blind person coming and stops moving; blind person says, "I'm armed, but I can't see you. Would you please make some noise so I will know where to shoot!"
mwsilvers wrote:
What exactly was wrong with my question Either you are in favor of gun control or you are not.
what part of "common sense" does good ole MW alias sarg alias rixie not understand???
these boys are not the sharpest knives in the drawer..
Raider Fan wrote:
Why do folks that abide by the 2nd amendment considered "nuts"?? Look in the mirror for the nut!
I vote to give all the 2nd Amendment gun nuts a musket.
That is what the weapon of choice was when the 2nd Amendment was written and passed.
Let us stick to the letter of the Constitution and give 'em all muskets. Then there can be no arguments about the law.
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