jbrown

"There is a controversy in Iowa where the state has started a program to issue permits to carry guns in public to people who are legally blind. This includes people who are completely blind. Disability advocates insist that any denial of a permit for a gun to a blind person would violate the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA).
State officials insist that state law does not allow them to deny an Iowan the right to carry a weapon based on physical ability."


http://jonathanturley.org/2013/09/10/iowa-to-issue-gun-permits-to-the-blind/

tradio Loc: Oxford, Ohio

Oh brother! That is so stupid.

Rongnongno Loc: FL

Hey! At least they will not shoot at shadows in the dark since they cannot see it!

While stupid and everything else, on another point of view it is a sort of discrimination (and I do not support the 'right to bear arm' at all).

Either you allow it for all qualifying citizen or you do not.

As long as there is no qualifying test similar to driving a car, a blind person as well as any other untrained moron can and should be able to own a gun and use it...

Raider Fan Loc: Lake County, IL.

Why do folks that abide by the 2nd amendment considered "nuts"?? Look in the mirror for the nut!

BW326 Loc: Boynton Beach, Florida

It's rather simple, Iowa legislators need to address that issue, and not by simply throwing their hands in the air and asking, "Gee, whatever can we do?". They need to start taking steps now to address the oversight at the state level and if it becomes a federal issue then national legislators need to address it at a federal level.

WNYShooter Loc: WNY

Slippery slope right there, denying Constitutional rights due to physical disability.

jbrown

I didn't invent the term "gun nuts". Furthermore this post can be read that I am either a supporter or not of gun rights, or that I am neutral, or that I support the US Supreme Court even when they are wrong or if I disagree with them.
p.s. When I look in the mirror, I see Robert Redford without the warts.

BW326 Loc: Boynton Beach, Florida

Denying "common sense" is also a slippery slope.

Imagine a blind man with an AK-47 in his hands. I think you'd probably agree with me that anyone who thinks that's a good idea is "nuts".

Frank T Loc: New York, NY

No one should be able to obtain a gun permit unless they are able to safeguard the weapon and handle it properly.
If you can give a permit to a blind person, why not give one to a quadriplegic or someone with brain damage or for that matter someone with no hands?
This is just another example of going too far.
Wonder what the "Disability Advocates" would say if they were shot by a blind man?

Rongnongno Loc: FL

Hence the qualification need. THAT is what the federal legislation should address, after criminal/sanity check that is.

Gitzo Loc: Indiana

Your reply says a lot about YOUR lack of common sense. Qualified Citizen ? Who gets to "decide" who's "qualified" and who isn't ? I'm all for helping people with disabilities; having said that, if I was a driver's license examiner, and a person with marginal eye sight showed up to get a license, I would certainly send them to have an eye test by an opthamologist before I would pass them for getting a driver's license; it's called, "common sense"; (something which seems to be severely lacking in Iowa.)

Anyone following the link provided by the OP, will quickly see what I mean; but I doubt that you followed the link; I'm guessing that, as usual, you were so intent is displaying YOUR lack of common sense, you just had to "say something", without really knowing what you are talking about. No surprise there, BTW......it's what ALL liberal pin-heads do.

If you had followed the link, even Stevie Wonder said something that was eminently sensible; Quote; "what, me with a gun? It's crazy"! For once, I completely agree with Stevie !

Your second paragraph is very ambiguous; it attempts to make three conflicting points;

#1. that blind people with guns is "stupid"; good point; I agree

#2. that NOT allowing blind people to have guns is "discriminatory"; completely ridiculous; it makes about as much sense as saying, "not allowing blind people to fly airliners is "discriminatory"; again, completely ridiculous.

#3. Your third paragraph is "over the top"; quote; "As long as there is no qualifying test similar to driving a car, a blind person as well as any other untrained moron can and should be able to own a gun and use it...[/quote]

I'm guessing that anyone with common sense, (liberal or conservative) will be very glad that YOU aren't "in charge" of determining who gets permits to carry guns in public.

I think most sensible people would agree that "morons" with guns is a BAD idea, regardless of how much "training they've had, or how little; I also think most sensible people realize that "morons" shouldn't be driving cars, OR posting on public forums. (their posts are always "moronic", as you have just proven.)

Kombiguy Loc: Cedar Rapids, IA

I agree. We need to have a check for capability before issuing a gun permit.
And then a capability check before issuing a permit to write letters to the government, or go to church, or be free from warrantless searches.
No one should be able to exercise any enumerated rights contained in the Bill of Rights until the government determines their ability to exercise that right in an approved way.

Gitzo Loc: Indiana

Wonders never cease ! I have read Frank's post 5 times now, and I can't find anything in it that that I disagree with ! Which seems to indicate, even liberals have common sense "sometimes". (There may be hope for Frank after all ?)

jbrown

GITZO:
re: "#3. Your third paragraph is "over the top"; quote; "As long as there is no qualifying test similar to driving a car, a blind person as well as any other untrained moron can and should be able to own a gun and use it...[/quote]

Actually, I work in a bank with federally mandated (ADA) braille keys on a drive-up ATM.

Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana

You are joking, Right?