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Aug 19, 2013 06:47:12   #
SHOOTR Loc: Hoosier State
 
rpavich wrote:
I've thought about this a lot, and so I thought I'd post a quote about it.

Scott Kelby said that the difference between a pro and a joe is that the pro ONLY shows you his best work..so subliminally you think that they produce that stuff regularly...that it's easy for them...

Came across this contact sheet from an Iconic photo and the quote in reference to it and I think it speaks to the same idea.

When we take images we post 10 variations, not the best one...and so we "tip our hand" as it were.

Check out this photo...and the contact sheet from the shooting situation, and then the quote and see if it doesn't make sense.



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Elliott Erwitt:
I've thought about this a lot, and so I thought I'... (show quote)


I read many years ago that a good photographer is known by what they SHOW, not what they shoot. Look at all the thousands of shots a Natl Geographic shooter will take for a story, perhaps to have only 4 or 5 published.

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Aug 19, 2013 07:25:08   #
dragonfist Loc: Stafford, N.Y.
 
This reminds me of a German born and trained engineer I knew. At the time I was driving a VW beetle. He asked me how I liked it and I allowed as how it was a pretty good little car. His reply was that German engineering was thought to be so good because they were smart enough not to export their mistakes. They only exported the good stuff.

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Aug 19, 2013 08:24:42   #
Jim Peters Loc: Pittsburgh
 
i Agree Also You Never Want To Say "I Can Fix That" Your Admitting That It Needs Fixed. We Retouch All Of Our Proofs Before The Customer Sees Them. It Take Time Of Course.
The Person That Taught Me This Years Ago Owned A Studio In Fort Lauderdale That Made $2.5 Million A Year. We He Talks, I listen.

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Aug 19, 2013 08:30:11   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
Jim Peters wrote:
i Agree Also You Never Want To Say "I Can Fix That" Your Admitting That It Needs Fixed. We Retouch All Of Our Proofs Before The Customer Sees Them. It Take Time Of Course.
The Person That Taught Me This Years Ago Owned A Studio In Fort Lauderdale That Made $2.5 Million A Year. We He Talks, I listen.


Exactly.

What if every magician, right after wowing you with a trick...showed you how it's done?

You'd say...oh..big deal...he's not that great.

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Aug 19, 2013 09:00:42   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
rpavich wrote:
I've thought about this a lot, and so I thought I'd post a quote about it.

Scott Kelby said that the difference between a pro and a joe is that the pro ONLY shows you his best work..so subliminally you think that they produce that stuff regularly...that it's easy for them...

Came across this contact sheet from an Iconic photo and the quote in reference to it and I think it speaks to the same idea.

When we take images we post 10 variations, not the best one...and so we "tip our hand" as it were.

Check out this photo...and the contact sheet from the shooting situation, and then the quote and see if it doesn't make sense.



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Elliott Erwitt:
I've thought about this a lot, and so I thought I'... (show quote)


I agree. With today's cameras it is difficult because the 'instant gratification' crowd wants to see what I shot by viewing the back of the camera. I may appear rude to some, but I don't chimp my photos. I explain that the initial image is only the first step in a process that will produce a very fine photograph.

Chimping the photo only leads to a lot of explanation and we already covered that. The only thing I don't do is delete any image. There are times, when tutoring, that having an example of a common mistake is handy.
--Bob

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Aug 19, 2013 09:01:16   #
winterrose Loc: Kyneton, Victoria, Australia
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Showing your contact sheet is like showing a writer's draft with all the revision notes vs the finished piece. ...but it is sometimes interesting to see the thought process.


I thought about it and I'm like you Goofy, I definitely wouldn't let anybody see my stuff-ups...that is if I had any....

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Aug 19, 2013 09:09:06   #
Brian45 Loc: Melbourne, Australia
 
winterrose wrote:
I thought about it and I'm like you Goofy, I definitely wouldn't let anybody see my stuff-ups...that is if I had any....


:thumbup: :thumbup:

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Aug 19, 2013 10:31:32   #
Dlevon Loc: New Jersey
 
2MATO wrote:
Absolutely, only share the good stuff. However, I do review my toss stuff to see what errors I am making and never discard from the camera.


I do the same 2MATO. Show only the good stuff, but keep everything!

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Aug 19, 2013 13:47:57   #
Gtruk Loc: Philly
 
CaptainC wrote:
Yep - Right now I am going through the images from yesterdays high school senior session. There are over 400 images - at least 100 due to trying to get good images with a less-than-cooperative horse. They will see 35 to 40 tops.

I learned that in the 60's - never show an image you have to explain. Never show one for which you have to make an excuse. Never show more than one of the same thing - and then only the BEST one. My friends thought I was a great photographer - I never shoed them the garbage I shot.
Yep - Right now I am going through the images from... (show quote)


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Aug 19, 2013 13:48:05   #
texaseve Loc: TX, NC and NH
 
Yes I have read and heard this before and agree. The only place I sometimes don't put the best of my best is Facebook....I keep my best for selling. I am not an expert, however, learning more every day.
I also liked Captain C's article - very informative. I graduated from Cherry Creek High School in Colorado.

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Aug 19, 2013 14:35:57   #
Jim Peters Loc: Pittsburgh
 
When Showing Wedding Proofs To a Young Groom He Replied"My Brother Took That Same Picture Standing Behind You But He Has A lot Of Power Lines Behind The Bride And Groom But You Don't.
Your Sky And Everything looks Better! How Did you Do That?"
My Reply," I'm A Professional, That's Why You Hired me!"

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Aug 19, 2013 20:15:05   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Jim Peters wrote:
When Showing Wedding Proofs To a Young Groom He Replied"My Brother Took That Same Picture Standing Behind You But He Has A lot Of Power Lines Behind The Bride And Groom But You Don't.
Your Sky And Everything looks Better! How Did you Do That?"
My Reply," I'm A Professional, That's Why You Hired me!"


:thumbup:

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Aug 20, 2013 10:26:04   #
Mudshark Loc: Illinois
 
rpavich...
Like so many areas...there are always two sides to the coin. I don't really like to show a proof sheet for all the above stated reasons...BUT...I have also found that over the years my own inner being has radically changed. i.e., I now occasionally revisit a shoot or proof sheet or file and see another shot that I like much better than the one I chose before. More than once I've looked at some old work and found a new "treasure"...always the flash..."what the hell were you thinking!!???"

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Aug 21, 2013 23:03:32   #
lighthouse Loc: No Fixed Abode
 
I am the same.
When we do the initial shoot we are influenced by our emotions at the time of that shoot.
We get home, download our pics and make decisions with those emotions still fresh in our mind. And we tend to make decisions based on how hard a shot was to get, or how much fun we were having.

I always like to revisit a folder of a shoot about 3 weeks later, so that i can look at the photos objectively, without the emotional attachment that I felt at the time.
Mudshark wrote:
rpavich...
Like so many areas...there are always two sides to the coin. I don't really like to show a proof sheet for all the above stated reasons...BUT...I have also found that over the years my own inner being has radically changed. i.e., I now occasionally revisit a shoot or proof sheet or file and see another shot that I like much better than the one I chose before. More than once I've looked at some old work and found a new "treasure"...always the flash..."what the hell were you thinking!!???"
rpavich... br Like so many areas...there are alway... (show quote)

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