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Aug 18, 2013 08:05:55   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
I've thought about this a lot, and so I thought I'd post a quote about it.

Scott Kelby said that the difference between a pro and a joe is that the pro ONLY shows you his best work..so subliminally you think that they produce that stuff regularly...that it's easy for them...

Came across this contact sheet from an Iconic photo and the quote in reference to it and I think it speaks to the same idea.

When we take images we post 10 variations, not the best one...and so we "tip our hand" as it were.

Check out this photo...and the contact sheet from the shooting situation, and then the quote and see if it doesn't make sense.



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Elliott Erwitt:

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Contact sheets should be as private as a toothbrush and ought to be guarded as jealously as a mistress. They should never be published; they should be seen only by one’s closest, benevolent associate when the photographer is stuck in a decision about which specific picture to use and cannot resolve it himself.

A dozen contact sheets tell far more about a photographer than a dozen ‘good’ pictures taken by that same photographer. Two dozen contact sheets taken at random from various stories and carefully scrutinized would be equal to a complete (photographic) psychoanalysis of the photographer.

Contact sheets reveal how one thinks and how one sees. They remove the mystery of how one gets to a finished picture. They are bad for our carefully cultivated mystique.”
Contact sheets should be as private as a toothbrus... (show quote)





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Aug 18, 2013 08:31:04   #
CurreyPhoto Loc: Reddick, Florida
 
rpavich wrote:
I've thought about this a lot, and so I thought I'd post a quote about it.

Scott Kelby said that the difference between a pro and a joe is that the pro ONLY shows you his best work..so subliminally you think that they produce that stuff regularly...that it's easy for them...

Came across this contact sheet from an Iconic photo and the quote in reference to it and I think it speaks to the same idea.

When we take images we post 10 variations, not the best one...and so we "tip our hand" as it were.

Check out this photo...and the contact sheet from the shooting situation, and then the quote and see if it doesn't make sense.



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Elliott Erwitt:
I've thought about this a lot, and so I thought I'... (show quote)


I could not agree more. I am often asked to show all the shots taken at an event so the client can pick what they want. They argue that their taste as to what is good might be different from mine. I always reply that all of the other pictures have already gone to the crapper.

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Aug 18, 2013 09:18:47   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
rpavich wrote:
.....Scott Kelby said that the difference between a pro and a joe is that the pro ONLY shows you his best work.......

I stumbled on Kelby's SmugMug portfolio yesterday. He appears to practice those words.

http://portfolio.scottkelby.com/

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Aug 18, 2013 12:21:51   #
2MATO Loc: CNY -Central NoWhere
 
Absolutely, only share the good stuff. However, I do review my toss stuff to see what errors I am making and never discard from the camera.

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Aug 18, 2013 12:33:38   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
Showing your contact sheet is like showing a writer's draft with all the revision notes vs the finished piece. ...but it is sometimes interesting to see the thought process.

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Aug 18, 2013 12:37:06   #
2MATO Loc: CNY -Central NoWhere
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Showing your contact sheet is like showing a writer's draft with all the revision notes vs the finished piece. ...but it is sometimes interesting to see the thought process.


Right. But that contact sheet is from a master --- those are wonderful to see. At the hack level, not so much. And with the experts, it is not so much that the others are "bad" but just not the absolutely, best choice. :mrgreen:

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Aug 18, 2013 13:04:47   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
Yep - Right now I am going through the images from yesterdays high school senior session. There are over 400 images - at least 100 due to trying to get good images with a less-than-cooperative horse. They will see 35 to 40 tops.

I learned that in the 60's - never show an image you have to explain. Never show one for which you have to make an excuse. Never show more than one of the same thing - and then only the BEST one. My friends thought I was a great photographer - I never shoed them the garbage I shot.

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Aug 18, 2013 14:06:38   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
CaptainC wrote:
Yep - Right now I am going through the images from yesterdays high school senior session. There are over 400 images - at least 100 due to trying to get good images with a less-than-cooperative horse. They will see 35 to 40 tops.

I learned that in the 60's - never show an image you have to explain. Never show one for which you have to make an excuse. Never show more than one of the same thing - and then only the BEST one. My friends thought I was a great photographer - I never shoed them the garbage I shot.
Yep - Right now I am going through the images from... (show quote)

Cliff,

I took a few minutes to view your website and read your tutorial at http://sptvblog.me/high-school-boy-senior-portraits-gritty-style-by-cliff-lawson/. I am in awe! Thanks for sharing your time and work.

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Aug 18, 2013 14:10:49   #
Tea8 Loc: Where the wind comes sweeping down the plain.
 
Oh yeah, completely agree. Even though I'm not a professional I don't go showing off all the photos I've taken. I've done some shoots with a friend for practice and for my NYIP course and I don't even show her all the photos I take. If I think they are garbage that's where they go and she sees the final few that I have chosen to edit and I think are worthy for others to see.

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Aug 18, 2013 14:40:41   #
mdorn Loc: Portland, OR
 
I'm getting much better at this---showing only my best. Often times I'll have to consult my wife, as she has a "better eye" than I do when it comes to photographic appeal. I guess that's why I'm still an amateur. ha ha

By the same logic, can I gain the respect of others who produce great work without posting any photos (or extremely few---maybe one or two)? :-)

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Aug 18, 2013 14:43:38   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
Rpavich, absolutely. They are called "money shots". If you don't have one, don't show it.
Your portfolio/website, should have nothing less in it. SS

PS, Rpavich, I like your new avatar. I assume it's your better looking, younger brother !!

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Aug 18, 2013 14:47:32   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
SharpShooter wrote:
Rpavich, absolutely. They are called "money shots". If you don't have one, don't show it.
Your portfolio/website, should have nothing less in it. SS

PS, Rpavich, I like your new avatar. I assume it's your better looking, younger brother !!


Lol...na...it's my "way early in the morning testing out the new camera" shot.....

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Aug 18, 2013 19:44:22   #
St3v3M Loc: 35,000 feet
 
A woman will change her outfit multiple times before going out so she looks 'just right'. A man will tighten that bolt until it feels 'just right'. In both cases we only present to the world what we want them to see.

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Aug 18, 2013 19:47:35   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
rpavich wrote:
Lol...na...it's my "way early in the morning testing out the new camera" shot.....


Rpavich, no offense, but get a better camera !!!

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Aug 18, 2013 19:51:13   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
SharpShooter wrote:
Rpavich, no offense, but get a better camera !!!


Hey! I did the best I could!!

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