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Aug 15, 2013 07:45:53   #
authorizeduser Loc: Monroe, Michigan
 
naturepics43 wrote:
OK, I just spent 2 hours Goggling, 1 hour on UHH "search". I couldn't find the answers I need. I need info from personal experience, please.

Can I use a 16GB CF card in my newly acquired Nikon D200 ? If so, what brand & type? I have a Sandisk Ultra 4GB & Sandisk 8GB Extreme. Thanks for any & all help.


YES! I have use a 16GB Sandisk in my D200 and it worked just fine. However I have decided to use a 4GB as not to put all my eggs in one basket. I shoot RAW and still get 200+ shots and the 4GB is around $20 at Walmart. If you shot JPG you will get 100's of shots.

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Aug 15, 2013 07:55:16   #
UtahBob Loc: Southern NJ
 
naturepics43 wrote:
OK, I just spent 2 hours Goggling, 1 hour on UHH "search". I couldn't find the answers I need. I need info from personal experience, please.

Can I use a 16GB CF card in my newly acquired Nikon D200 ? If so, what brand & type? I have a Sandisk Ultra 4GB & Sandisk 8GB Extreme. Thanks for any & all help.


I have two D200 both work fine with the Transcend CF 400x udma and the Kingston CF 266x ultimate both 16gb. I have 4 Transcends and 6 Kingston. The Transcend is faster than the Kingston in downloading but both work the same in the cameras as far as I can tell since the cards are faster the the D200. I have only had one corruption with the Transcend but I think I caused that in conjunction with a battery swap on my part right after I cooked the camera on a gigapixel shoot in the June Arizona desert. I was able to recover all my files on the card using a recovery utility. Both cards purchased through B&H. The Kingstons were really inexpensive because of the speeds.

I have firmware 2.1 2.1 in the one camera and 2.0 1.0 in the other. I pop them in and out between the two and they still run fine.

Make sure you have a udma compatible card reader. If you don't you can loose all your stuff the first time you download from the card.

I did a lot of research last year and I came to the conclusion that 32gb cards won't work in the D200 but I can't quote the sources. Sorry about that but I think 16gb is probably big enough in most cases and that's me saying it with a stock of 10 cards.

Oh, I run from PNY based on my sd card experiences.

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Aug 15, 2013 09:27:59   #
naturepics43 Loc: Hocking Co. Ohio - USA
 
Terra Australis wrote:
Don't worry about the CF to SD adapter. I have been doing some tests here and any card over 4GB is a SDHC card which will not work in the D200. So you are limited to CF cards or SD cards to 4Gb.

I just tried a 32Gb Sandisk card in the D200 and it did not see it.

So it looks like 16Gb CF is the upper limit on the D200.

I am using Firmware Version 2.0 in the D200.


Thanks so much for your hands on research. It is really appreciated.

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Aug 15, 2013 09:31:56   #
naturepics43 Loc: Hocking Co. Ohio - USA
 
TonyP wrote:
Now that's an interesting question.
Maybe I've been lucky in my ignorance but I have 2 D200s and D300s.
Most of my cards are Sandisk.
All are 4, 8,16 Gb.
All work okay in both models.
Write speed is not great on the d200 but has never really been a problem to me.
Hope that helps.
Cheers

By the way. The D200s are now backups for my D300 but I Still get very good results from the D200 (except low light).


Thanks for your reply. Yes, it really helps a lot. I think the secret may be to use 16GB cards with the slower read/wright speeds.

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Aug 15, 2013 09:38:43   #
naturepics43 Loc: Hocking Co. Ohio - USA
 
speters wrote:
If your camera is set up for CF cards, well yeah, those cards you have will do just fine, Sandisk is a good brand, and 16GB is small, I can't imagine you would hit any limits with that.


Yes, the D200 uses CF cards & yes, by todays standards the 16GB card is small but when the D200 came out an 8GB card was very expensive. I think the limits may be in the read/wright speed. Thanks for your input.

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Aug 15, 2013 09:39:51   #
naturepics43 Loc: Hocking Co. Ohio - USA
 
Bill MN wrote:
:thumbup: I agree. Why are some people telling other people what to do?


:thumbup: :thumbup:

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Aug 15, 2013 09:41:34   #
naturepics43 Loc: Hocking Co. Ohio - USA
 
rogerl wrote:
Yes - or at least I'm doing so!


Thanks for you input. It's much appreciated.

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Aug 15, 2013 09:57:17   #
jjestar Loc: Savannah GA
 
I have two D200 I use as backups to my D700's and interchange my 8GB 400x Lexar cards, never had a problem

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Aug 15, 2013 10:40:22   #
naturepics43 Loc: Hocking Co. Ohio - USA
 
jjestar wrote:
I have two D200 I use as backups to my D700's and interchange my 8GB 400x Lexar cards, never had a problem


Thanks for the reply. I appreciate getting the exact specs on the cards your using. There are so many different cards (with different specs) available that at times it is really frustrating trying to figure them out. Your info has been really helpful.

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Aug 15, 2013 10:51:09   #
jjestar Loc: Savannah GA
 
naturepics43 wrote:
Thanks for the reply. I appreciate getting the exact specs on the cards your using. There are so many different cards (with different specs) available that at times it is really frustrating trying to figure them out. Your info has been really helpful.


Your welcome glad I helped is your dog a Pit or American bull dog?

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Aug 15, 2013 11:15:02   #
naturepics43 Loc: Hocking Co. Ohio - USA
 
jjestar wrote:
Your welcome glad I helped is your dog a Pit or American bull dog?


American Bull dog. 110 pounds of pure muscle!

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Aug 15, 2013 11:36:53   #
Wall-E Loc: Phoenix, AZ
 
naturepics43 wrote:
Yes, the D200 uses CF cards & yes, by todays standards the 16GB card is small but when the D200 came out an 8GB card was very expensive. I think the limits may be in the read/wright speed. Thanks for your input.


Everyone is mentioning the slow writing speed of the D200.
It made a noticeable difference when I moved to the SanDisk Ultra and Extreme from my 100x Sonys and 166x Kingstons.

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Aug 15, 2013 11:39:46   #
jjestar Loc: Savannah GA
 
I have had three, great dogs

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Aug 15, 2013 13:06:02   #
UtahBob Loc: Southern NJ
 
Wall-E wrote:
Everyone is mentioning the slow writing speed of the D200.
It made a noticeable difference when I moved to the SanDisk Ultra and Extreme from my 100x Sonys and 166x Kingstons.


Wall-E, ok I did a test just now:

D200 no lens high speed shutter iso 100 manual exposure at 1/2500 and f11. I have long exposure reduction turned off so 19 images available in buffer. Set a 9 bracket at 1/3 ev so I could fire off 9 and have it stop. RAW + JPG

Firmware 2.0 1.0

Results from release of first shot in the bracket to when the light turned off:

21.7 sec - Sandisk extreme III 1gb (second run 21.5) (different body same card 21.9)
22.0 sec - Transcend udma 400x 16gb (different body different card 25.1) (same body different card 25.3)
22.5 sec - Kingston ultimate 266x 16gb (second run 21.9) (third run different card 22.0) (four run different body 22.1)
22.7 sec - Kingston elite pro 50x 2gb (original purchase with body) (different body 22.2)
32.1 sec - Sandisk ultra ii 2gb
33.9 sec - Lexar Professional with Write Acceleration 133x 4gb (second run 33.7) (came used with my second body)
53.4 sec - Sandisk 4gb (standard red and blue)

I repeated the Lexar and came up with 33.7 sec. My thought is that the 133x is with the write acceleration and that the camera can not take advantage of that acceleration. My times are probably off with a half second or so since I was using a phone rather than a stop watch but you can see the grouping at around 22sec.

The total file size was 135.6mb on the Kingston 266x. At 22 seconds thats 6.1 mb/sec? That Kingston elite pro I got with the body in 2007. I knew it was faster than the sandisk ultra and sandisk standard just by the feel of the camera but I never knew that I was hitting the wall on the camera side.

Depending on camera settings, you might get some limited better performance but I think you top out below 10mb/sec as some say. Others also say the udma, etc. hinders performance but I don't see that with the Transcend and Kingston cards which are my newest. The Extreme III I got with a used body so I don't know the vintage but I recall they've been around for a while.

As for firmware the other body had 2.1 2.1 on it and that did not make any difference for the sandisk extreme III or the Kingston elite pro 50x or the Transcend udma 400x. I did find that the second Transcend card I used in the test ran slower than the first. They had the same number of files roughly on both before I started. I will have to compare all 4 cards I have with zero files on them.

So my conclusion is that anything above 50x or 10mb/sec doesn't provide any benefit on the D200 assuming that the camera can actually take advantage of the cards 50x or 10mb/sec rated speed (i.e. the 133x Lexar did worse most likely because its rating is below 50x when the camera can't use that Write Acceleration they claim).

So how does this help me? Already knew that I was at around 3 seconds from shot to shot on a motorized pano head using the 16gb cards but now I know that I don't want to put in those Sandisk ultra II cards or that Lexar. The Sandisk stardards I knew were dogs so I just use them as backups in case I fill up all the rest.

So for the OP, you should see about this performance when shooting those birds - you get 19 shots and then you'll have to wait 2 seconds or so for each additional shot. I think that's right.

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Aug 15, 2013 13:14:15   #
Arex Loc: Coloado
 
I have a D200 and I use any scandisk card that fits the space. I have 1- 32GB and 2- 16GB I also have several smaller sizes 1-4 GB I like the smaller ones because it dose not take so long for the information to be moved from camera to card. The extrem cards work best. With the 32GB by the time it is getting full the cameras information takes a few more secounds to be entered. I do like the 32GB for traveling though when you are busy it is not always easy to down load to PC.

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