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Jul 25, 2013 09:29:19   #
jcjr8
 
B4b00n5 wrote:
I too am a scientist by profession and so very well able to read scientific papers. I however do not recieve all of my wisdom from hollywood films and have never seen Al Gore's efforts. If i was a gullible american i would also believe that the enigma code machine od WWII was taken from the Germans by the americans and not by the Royal Navy (as it was in fact). My problem with people who deny climate change is that they will not believe anything but absolute proof. As you have alluded to this is impossible to provide, all we can do is produce a theory that cannot be scientifically challenged. Those who do not subscribe to the theories of climate change are like those who belive in GOD. Far too wrapped up in what they want to believe and blinkered to the facts staring them in the face. And before you quote information about climate change in the last 50 or so years please remember that the planet has been around for a while and we need to look back tens and hundreds of thousands of years, not what happened back in the 70's.
I too am a scientist by profession and so very wel... (show quote)


So exactly what are the "facts" that there is no God as you so subtly alluded to?

Can you tell us who it was that said "science without religion is lame"? Or " the fact that the universe is expanding does not preclude the existence of God"?

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Jul 25, 2013 09:39:36   #
jcjr8
 
Ron K. wrote:
Al Gore doesn't seem to be worried about it.


You will notice that Al Gore hasn't been in the news much lately. That's because he's already made 100's of millions of dollars on the whole "Global Warming" fraud which is what it always was and still is about. He's a better con artist then Bernie Madoff.

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Jul 25, 2013 12:28:03   #
Richard94611 Loc: Oakland, CA
 
JM, evidence suggests that you are wrong about everything you have stated in this post, and that you have gone off the edge intellectually into cuckooland.

I won't take the time or make the effort to correct all your fantasies, but you did fail to mention that the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere has a strong effect on global warming (and locally on what is known as climate change).

Is it really true that you don't know how to spell "cancer" ? I make my usage mistakes inadvertently now and then ("intrastate" when I mean "interstate," for instance), but at least the built-in spelling checker tells me when I have misspelled something. Don't you also have one ?



jmdusty wrote:
When "Global Warming" got shot down due it doesn't exist as such, the powers that be decided to rename it "Climate Change". It is about as big a scam as "Canser causing adgents". There are ONLY 3 things that control the climate on any planet in our solar system: Solar activity (or lack there of) Gravity and volcanic activity.We are now in the 24th solar cycle and it has been dwindling for several decades. We just came through the coldest spring in recorded history. The spring of 1973 had held the record and "the powers that be" wanted to put ashes on the polar caps to ward off "Global Cooling". Even though there are those that think this one may have a second peak, it is still one of the lowest solar activity periods in several decades. As to canser, there is no known element, mineral, compound or man made chemical that can "cause" canser. You can't grow one in a peatre dish in a lab. Canser geans are just a herdetive genetic disorder and if you don't have any one of the 323 known canser geans you can not "catch" that canser. The one thing medical science still doesn't know is how or why a given canser can skip a generation and then single out a sibling in the next one, but not effect the rest of that generation.

Dusty
When "Global Warming" got shot down due ... (show quote)

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Jul 25, 2013 13:13:38   #
Bmac Loc: Long Island, NY
 
Richard94611 wrote:
Long live MSNBC !

Hahaha....may not happen with their ratings. In any event, you rock Al Sharpton! Ooops, sorry, Reverend Al Sharpton. :D

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Jul 25, 2013 13:25:58   #
Richard94611 Loc: Oakland, CA
 
Bmac, MSNBCs rating are going up. Faux News' rating are going down. Rush "the blimp" Limbaugh has lost enormous numbers of sponsors, including (yesterday, I think it was) Disney, his largest sponsor.


Bmac wrote:
Hahaha....may not happen with their ratings. In any event, you rock Al Sharpton! Ooops, sorry, Reverend Al Sharpton. :D

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Jul 25, 2013 13:32:33   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
I realize this link was the end of May, but in looking at other current trends, MSNBC is way behind...
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/tv-ratings-msnbc-falls-below-559923
Richard94611 wrote:
Bmac, MSNBCs rating are going up. Faux News' rating are going down. Rush "the blimp" Limbaugh has lost enormous numbers of sponsors, including (yesterday, I think it was) Disney, his largest sponsor.

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Jul 25, 2013 13:46:21   #
Richard94611 Loc: Oakland, CA
 
It hardly matters. The Limbaugh development is a lot more important, I think. The "Flush Rush" movement has been quite effective and it is still gaining strength.


Screamin Scott wrote:
I realize this link was the end of May, but in looking at other current trends, MSNBC is way behind...
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/tv-ratings-msnbc-falls-below-559923

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Jul 25, 2013 13:48:33   #
Gitzo Loc: Indiana
 
Richard94611 wrote:
Bmac, MSNBCs rating are going up. Faux News' rating are going down. Rush "the blimp" Limbaugh has lost enormous numbers of sponsors, including (yesterday, I think it was) Disney, his largest sponsor.



If you think JM is "out in right field", you're clear out of the ball park when you suggest that MSNBC's ratings are improving ! Yeah, they're "improving all right.......week before last, there were 500 idiots watching them, then last week there were 510 idiots watching ! (BIG improvement !)

You're not going to get much traction, trying to insult Fox News; After what O'Reilly said on his show Monday night, he'll probably get a raise ! No need to worry about Rush either........his listeners outnumber ALL of the liberal-retard shows put together !

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Jul 25, 2013 13:51:28   #
Richard94611 Loc: Oakland, CA
 
For Rush, the number of listeners isn't what matters. The number of sponsors is what matters. This number has declined severely and continues to decline, with his most important sponsor, Disney, dropping out just a day or two or three ago.


Gitzo UH wrote:
If you think JM is "out in right field", you're clear out of the ball park when you suggest that MSNBC's ratings are improving ! Yeah, they're "improving all right.......week before last, there were 500 idiots watching them, then last week there were 510 idiots watching ! (BIG improvement !)

You're not going to get much traction, trying to insult Fox News; After what O'Reilly said on his show Monday night, he'll probably get a raise ! No need to worry about Rush either........his listeners outnumber ALL of the liberal-retard shows put together !
If you think JM is "out in right field",... (show quote)

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Jul 25, 2013 13:56:48   #
Bmac Loc: Long Island, NY
 
Richard94611 wrote:
Long live MSNBC !

Bmac wrote:
Hahaha....may not happen with their ratings. In any event, you rock Al Sharpton! Ooops, sorry, Reverend Al Sharpton. :D

Richard94611 wrote:
Bmac, MSNBCs rating are going up. Faux News' rating are going down. Rush "the blimp" Limbaugh has lost enormous numbers of sponsors, including (yesterday, I think it was) Disney, his largest sponsor.


Not sure where you get this info Richard but good luck on MSNBC living a long life. Hope you are right, as I get a thrill up my leg when the Reverend speaks.

By the way, not positive, but I don't think Limbaugh is even on Fox News. Surprised you comment on folks physical appearance with derogatory terms, I thought you were more caring, especially since there is a high prevalence of obesity among minorities.

Special Issues Regarding Obesity in Minority Populations
"Special attention must be given to obesity as it occurs in and affects ethnic minorities (that is, black Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian and Pacific Islander Americans, American Indians and Alaska Natives, and Native Hawaiians) in the United States. In most of these groups, the prevalence of obesity is substantially higher than in whites, especially among women. Poverty and lower educational attainment, which are associated with higher than average rates of female obesity (independent of ethnicity), affect proportionately more persons in these minority populations than in white populations."

Above from: Annals Of Internal Medicine
http://annals.org/article.aspx?articleid=668710

Shame on you Richard. :|

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Jul 25, 2013 14:03:36   #
Gitzo Loc: Indiana
 
Richard94611 wrote:
For Rush, the number of listeners isn't what matters. The number of sponsors is what matters. This number has declined severely and continues to decline, with his most important sponsor, Disney, dropping out just a day or two or three ago.



I haven't listened to Rush for a couple of days, but if Disney is no longer one of his sponsors, he'll undoubtedly pick up a few million MORE listeners, now that he doesn't have to "shill" for THAT bunch of mis-fits ! UGH! BTW.......looking at that ridiculous avatar of yours........you must be a REAL BIG Disney fan ! Which Mickey Mouse Park do YOU go to when they have their annual fudge-packers day ?

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Jul 25, 2013 14:10:23   #
Richard94611 Loc: Oakland, CA
 
Bmac, since you are one of my more articulate and intelligent detractors, I will respond to you. (I have been considering just ignoring a lot of the idiots on this forum.)

1. I am sure MSNBC will have a long life. Its audience is growing. as for your getting a thrill up[ your leg whenever Sharpton speaks, all I can say is, "Whatever floats your boat."

2. The juxtaposition of Rush and Faux News may have implied that he is on Faux News. I didn't mean to imply that he is.

3. I do not care for bigots and liars like Rush, and feel free to insult them in any way I can. You may be more mature and more s[iritually-developed than I am, but Rush is a hate monger against minorities and women. He continually lies. His record of lying speaks for itself. I feel free to insult him any way I can.

4. Are you trying to lay some kind of guilt trip on me about obesity and minorities because I have insulted Rush ? Doesn't work, won't work, so don't even bother. Save your breath and your typing fingers.




[quote=Bmac]Not sure where you get this info Richard but good luck on MSNBC living a long life. Hope you are right, as I get a thrill up my leg when the Reverend speaks.

By the way, not positive, but I don't think Limbaugh is even on Fox News. Surprised you comment on folks physical appearance with derogatory terms, I thought you were more caring, especially since there is a high prevalence of obesity among minorities.

Special Issues Regarding Obesity in Minority Populations
"Special attention must be given to obesity as it occurs in and affects ethnic minorities (that is, black Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian and Pacific Islander Americans, American Indians and Alaska Natives, and Native Hawaiians) in the United States. In most of these groups, the prevalence of obesity is substantially higher than in whites, especially among women. Poverty and lower educational attainment, which are associated with higher than average rates of female obesity (independent of ethnicity), affect proportionately more persons in these minority populations than in white populations."

Above from: Annals Of Internal Medicine
http://annals.org/article.aspx?articleid=668710

Shame on you Richard. :|[/quote]

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Jul 25, 2013 14:13:52   #
Richard94611 Loc: Oakland, CA
 
Once again, let me mention that it doesn't matter how many listeners or viewers Rush has. What matters is the number of sponsors and hence the amount of money those sponsors pay. Welcome to corporate America, where cash is emperor !

Sorry you don't like the avatar. Just because you don't like it, I won't change it. Among my 250,000 photos, it is one of the best PhotoShop pictures I have been commissioned to make. I like it and the client liked it, and that's all that matters !


Gitzo UH wrote:
I haven't listened to Rush for a couple of days, but if Disney is no longer one of his sponsors, he'll undoubtedly pick up a few million MORE listeners, now that he doesn't have to "shill" for THAT bunch of mis-fits ! UGH! BTW.......looking at that ridiculous avatar of yours........you must be a REAL BIG Disney fan ! Which Mickey Mouse Park do YOU go to when they have their annual fudge-packers day ?

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Jul 25, 2013 14:45:25   #
gorgehiker Loc: Lexington, Ky
 
Underwaterant wrote:
Make the Chinese stop polluting first.
There's no use others stopping if the
Chinese continue.


Since when does the USA let China set the standard for us? What other issues do you want to emulate China about? Also, Americans are per capita the biggest polluters on earth.

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Jul 25, 2013 15:49:31   #
Gitzo Loc: Indiana
 
Richard94611 wrote:
Once again, let me mention that it doesn't matter how many listeners or viewers Rush has. What matters is the number of sponsors and hence the amount of money those sponsors pay. Welcome to corporate America, where cash is emperor !

Sorry you don't like the avatar. Just because you don't like it, I won't change it. Among my 250,000 photos, it is one of the best PhotoShop pictures I have been commissioned to make. I like it and the client liked it, and that's all that matters !



I think you misunderstood what I said about your avatar; I didn't say that I didn't "like" it; ( I'm sure it would look just great in some magazine for homosexuals; which I'm guessing your "client" is); and please DON"T change it on my account; it's so "obvious", it makes it much easier for me to recognize your posts instantly, saving me the trouble of reading them, only to realize who wrote what I'm reading); as a matter of fact, I wish ALL liberals would use such an obvious, easy to spot avatar, for the same reason.

I hate to have to keep telling you this, as I know you despise Rush Limbaugh, but while you're blathering away, fantacising about MSNBC ever becoming remotely successful, Fox News keeps right on "cleaning their clock", month after month, just like Rush Limbaugh does ALL of YOUR favorite liberal hacks ! It's going to take a lot more than just YOU "not liking him" to ever get rid of Rush !

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