What Should We Do About Climate Change ? (Page 5): I guess Your right about going to a doctor, with Obama Care, ones as dangerous as the other...

Bill Houghton Loc: New York area

I guess Your right about going to a doctor, with Obama Care, ones as dangerous as the other

Bmac Loc: Long Island, NY

Bmac wrote:

Please remain calm: The Earth will heal itself ... (show quote)

gorgehiker wrote:

If you think that the earth doesn't care about governments or their legislation, you should travel to the eastern part of my state of Kentucky. God created mountains that were incredibly beautiful and they are now moonscapes. People who are so much in love with coal should have their areas blasted like war zones and they should drink contaminated water!

My post was a quote from a scientist regarding climate change. 8-)

Richard94611 Loc: Oakland, CA

BMac, I think his post was a comment on what he is observing that contributes to climate change. At any rate, about 97% of the scientists questioned about climate change say it is real, and that it is caused by man's activities. I'll hunt for the reference and post it.

Bmac wrote:

My post was a quote from a scientist regarding climate change. 8-)

Shutter Bugger

gmcase wrote:

A tempest in a teapot. :thumbdown:

B4b00n5 Loc: Wiltshire

As i have already said, Global warming and climate change are two different things. Global warming (average global temperature) is causing climate change (changes in seasonal weather patterns), not making everywhere in the world hotter. If you blame every change in the weather on climate change then you clearly have no understanding of the terms mentioned or the science. Ignorance is not an excuse.

Shutter Bugger

We need to make pointless posts about the outbreak of
virulent self replicating nano robots instead of pointless posts about the weather... Those little bastards are starting to use human tissue for their construction, and they are evolving wings.

RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida

Underwaterant wrote:

Make the Chinese stop polluting first.
There's no use others stopping if the
Chinese continue.

This country is not in a position to make the Chinese stop anything. Our job creators have sold the public down the river by transferring virtually every job to China.

Richard94611 Loc: Oakland, CA

However true that may be about sending many (not every) job to China, we, China and the United States, are in a very real sense partners. China will not destroy the United States because too much of their economy is based on selling us their goods, and too much of their economy is tied up in the ownership of US properties.

RixPix wrote:

This country is not in a position to make the Chinese stop anything. Our job creators have sold the public down the river by transferring virtually every job to China.

Harvey Loc: Pioneer, CA

I agree that there is a lot that can be done to control man made pollution that is contributing to climate change "BUT" get a grip on reality.
The sands of the Sahara have been expanding for centuries.
What happened to change the climate and make the Cliff Dwelling Indians of the So West disappear? How about the several Ice ages - were they not climate changes? Grow up folks we don't live on a planet that does not constantly change.
The whole of Florida and The Yucatan of Mexico were covered with water in the past and it looks like it could be again in a few centuries. Like a lot of our coastal cities will be.

Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga

Our job creators did that? I hardly think so...It's more the constant increase in wages, benefits & cost of ever increasing government regulations that has driven them to find cheaper ways to make the products that our citizens demand at the prices they want to pay...Not that profits don't figure into the equation, because they do, but to lay the blame entirely at the feet of business only shows a lack of intelligence as to how business works...

RixPix wrote:

This country is not in a position to make the Chinese stop anything. Our job creators have sold the public down the river by transferring virtually every job to China.

Harvey Loc: Pioneer, CA

I think you are missing some of the latest news - cost of labor in China has risen so much they are looking for cheaper places to manufacture - they are now spending Billions on investments in Mexico to cut cost of labor and shipping.

Richard94611 wrote:

However true that may be about sending many (not every) job to China, we, China and the United States, are in a very real sense partners. China will not destroy the United States because too much of their economy is based on selling us their goods, and too much of their economy is tied up in the ownership of US properties.

Richard94611 Loc: Oakland, CA

I would like to know more about how within your personal experience specific regulations forced upon business by the government ever increased costs. Any specific examples of that ? I ask not to challenge, but to learn.

Exchanging experiences and learning from others should be among the goals of this forum, though they rarely are.

Screamin Scott wrote:

Our job creators did that? I hardly think so...It's more the constant increase in wages, benefits & cost of ever increasing government regulations that has driven them to find cheaper ways to make the products that our citizens demand at the prices they want to pay...Not that profits don't figure into the equation, because they do, but to lay the blame entirely at the feet of business only shows a lack of intelligence as to how business works...

Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga

OMG, are you kidding?...EPA regulations, while needed, have increased the cost of doing business as they have to implement new technologies & systems in order to comply with them...The ACA requires Doctors & hospitals to be essentially "paper free", meaning electronic records, & that requires them to update their record systems (including transferring all of the older paper records) to digital format. Think that comes at no cost?...These are just a drop in the bucket of regulations that increase the cost of doing business. If you want more, look it up...

Richard94611 wrote:

I would like to know more about how within your personal experience specific regulations forced upon business by the government ever increased costs. Any specific examples of that ? I ask not to challenge, but to learn.

Exchanging experiences and learning from others should be among the goals of this forum, though they rarely are.

GSQRD1 Loc: SAN ANTONIO, TX

B4b00n5 wrote:

It makes me sad to see how arrogant, ignorant or b... (show quote)

You are very concerned about the rise of "greenhouse gasses" produced by man. Let me tell you what "peer reviewed science" really does know: 1.) The most abundant greenhouse gas in our atmosphere is NOT CO2! It is water vapor! Go to any introductory level meteorology text book and it will confirm this. 2.) In the Roman Warming from 250BC to 450 AD temperature was at least 2 degrees celsius higher. I don't believe this warming was due to anthropogenic emissions of CO2. 3.) IMHO all you advocates of the 'Algore' theory should read "Heaven and Earth global warming the missing science" by Professor Ian Plimer. 4.) Speaking of 'Algore', if global warming is going to cause innundation of the coastal regions of say Florida, why did 'Algore' spend nearly $9million on a waterfront Florida property recently??

The climate of mother earth has always been changing and will continue to change. Live with it! Understand it and don't believe everything you read that is touted to be "peer reviewed" science when it is really the self serving science of those trying to perpetuate their own sources of funding.
:idea: cogito ergo sum!

NOSLEEP Loc: Calgary

GSQRD1 wrote:

You are very concerned about the rise of "gre... (show quote)

I am looking forward to spending my retirement years here in Canada. A warming climate and some palm trees would only serve to make it more inviting. I think so I must be... Cheers.