Eliminating unwanted objects
Dec 25, 2011 08:27:00 #
aside from all of this talk about software, which is everyones choice to use or not to use.
Pix those shots are great.
besides in the dark room that are lots of ways to fix photos and if not we had retouchers as we do now either with airbrush or computers. To adjust the art the way we want it to be.
remember photos are works of art so the artist can do what he wishes.
Pix those shots are great.
besides in the dark room that are lots of ways to fix photos and if not we had retouchers as we do now either with airbrush or computers. To adjust the art the way we want it to be.
remember photos are works of art so the artist can do what he wishes.
Dec 25, 2011 08:55:51 #
Greg
Loc: Maryland
PIXChuck wrote:
What I'm trying to say is, Photo Shop is for mechanics---The Masters never had Photo Shop.
WHATTT!!! You think any shot you see that Ansel Adams took looked like that out of the camera?? Not a chance. Sure, they may not have had the product Photoshop, but they did the same things in the darkroom. Where do you think many of the tools in PS got their names from, They did plenty of dodging, burning and cloning under the enlarger, used filters to enhance contrast, chose film and paper to get particular effects that they were known for.
Dec 25, 2011 08:57:46 #
I use the Heal (little bandaid) Tool in Elements 9 to get most power wires and other distractions out of the way. Also works great removing spots created from lens filth.
Dec 25, 2011 10:31:44 #
Greg wrote:
quote=PIXChuck What I'm trying to say is, Photo ... (show quote)
He had negs the size of dining room tables and cleanliness beyond "clean rooms" and an eye that a lot of you prefer to defer to your camera. Someone used the excuse of "fleeting" subject---so you sit still and wait---perhaps the moment will---perhaps it won't COME AGAIN but simply stated Murphy's Law and my addage---"better to be lucky than good" applies! I guess my pique comes from Nikon and Canon snobs who still feel the need for P/S to do what they have the inate talent, hopefully in reserve, to use!
Untouched from my Pentax K10D and med/zoom.
Just Cuz!
Nuff Said!
Dec 25, 2011 12:08:22 #
PixChuck, You are not wrong to strive for the best picture you can take . By the same token, those who strive to fix things in their photos to make it as perfect as possible are not wrong,either. I do believe the red flags come up and hackles are raised when someone says,or implies, " My way is better than your way, or I am a better photographer than you are. I seldom have a need to fix anything. " I think the question to begin with asked "How do I eliminate unwanted objects? " The photoshop, Elements, etc. answers were the response to the question that was asked. Maybe your pictures would fit more aptly in a thread titled " How do I take the perfect picture". That might be less discouraging to the people who sometimes have something that needs to be fixed, and want to ask for help My guess is you showed us things that do not need to be fixed, but you have taken some others that do need to be fixed. Just like the rest of us do.
Dec 25, 2011 12:42:45 #
birdie you hit the nail right on the head and nothing can be said after that. My hat is off you you.
Dec 25, 2011 13:40:22 #
I also think that some people are missing the point in that for some of us photography is what we do for fun. And a big part of that fun is playing around. Changing things. Seeing what happens when we do this or that.
Taking a superb picture which is perfectly lit, beautifully framed and with the focus just right is sweet. Magic even. But I have spent many happy hours 'rescuing' a picture which had potential but was lacking something. Perhaps there was a wrong shadow, or an unbalancing post or power line. To be able to take that picture and work the old magic on it with the likes of PhotoShop or whatever has given me many a happy evening.
And it's not just in the digital realm either. I remember evenings spent in the darkroom with a blob of cotton-wool on the end of a popsicle stick as I dodged an overexposed face. The only difference now is the absence of the smell of Hypo!
Taking a superb picture which is perfectly lit, beautifully framed and with the focus just right is sweet. Magic even. But I have spent many happy hours 'rescuing' a picture which had potential but was lacking something. Perhaps there was a wrong shadow, or an unbalancing post or power line. To be able to take that picture and work the old magic on it with the likes of PhotoShop or whatever has given me many a happy evening.
And it's not just in the digital realm either. I remember evenings spent in the darkroom with a blob of cotton-wool on the end of a popsicle stick as I dodged an overexposed face. The only difference now is the absence of the smell of Hypo!
Dec 25, 2011 13:59:59 #
marvin Klein wrote:
birdie you hit the nail right on the head and nothing can be said after that. My hat is off you you.
I appreciate your reply. The next comment hit another valid point. I am certainly in that camp too. I love doing it for the art of it.
Dec 25, 2011 15:15:43 #
I have never striven to take a perfect picture. But I still believe it is far more inportant to be lucky than good---distilled to it's esence is our Texas expression, also muchly used in LA, "every once in a while a blind hog finds an acorn. My memory card is constantly emptied and many discarded. If it comes out needing tweeking---tough---hopefully I took enuff for one to make the cut. Guess I got my method from a dear, diceased hi-school chum who WAS a pro with war experience shooting Nam for Stars and Stripes. He taught me to shoot for the first picture and "Fast!"
IT'S SOMETIME BETTER TO BE LUCKY THAN GOOD!!! and HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOR!!!!!!
IT'S SOMETIME BETTER TO BE LUCKY THAN GOOD!!! and HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOR!!!!!!
"And Have A Sense Of Humor"
Dec 25, 2011 21:29:54 #
PIXChuck wrote:
I have never striven to take a perfect picture. B... (show quote)
I do not for an instant underrate your ability. Your ideas are good and valuable. The problem is that you hijacked the thread from the fellow who wanted to know about getting rid of unwanted things in a photo. He asked the question in good faith, hoping for an answer he could use. There is a way to show your photos, your sense of humor, your ideas. It is as simple as starting your own thread. I understand where you were coming from, you have much to show and teach about photography and wanted that person to learn from what you had to say, but he did not ask for it in that thread. His thread then stopped being of value to him as an answer his question. I have a saying for you" A word to the wise is sufficient"
Dec 26, 2011 18:44:13 #
RMM wrote:
The latest version of Photoshop has a neat tool where you just select the troublesome object and tell Photoshop to fill in using the surrounding area. I haven't used the tool myself, but some of the examples they have posted are astounding.
Corel Paintshop Pro X4 has a similar tool.
Dec 30, 2011 13:19:43 #
I have not used silkypix myself but a couple yeas ago I tried a couple dozen free editors I found on the internet. One of the better ones I found is Photoscape. It comes with very good selection of filters and tools for correction and editing, is compatible on any software systm from XP on up, takes up just under 25Mb of disk space and is very easy to use. Another good freeware program is GIMP. It resembles Adobe Photoshop a lot and is very powerful for freeware licensing software. The only downside is that there is a learning curve.
I currenly use Adobe Photoshop CS3 which I really like but there are both cost an learning factors involved there, and it is always more fun to spend time and money out taking pictures than poking on the computer.
Good luck with whatver your choice and have a great year of picture-taking in 2012!
I currenly use Adobe Photoshop CS3 which I really like but there are both cost an learning factors involved there, and it is always more fun to spend time and money out taking pictures than poking on the computer.
Good luck with whatver your choice and have a great year of picture-taking in 2012!
Jan 2, 2012 02:25:59 #
rayford2 wrote:
Thanks NYWeb. Can you point me in the right direction to learn how to do this? A program recommendation and a tutorial I can log into would work...Thank you.
nyweb2001 wrote:
#2
Thanks NYWeb. Can you point me in the right direction to learn how to do this? A program recommendation and a tutorial I can log into would work...Thank you.
You can down load a free editing program called Gimp here:
http://www.gimp.org/downloads/
This link will walk you through the procedure to clone out unwanted objects using Gimp.
http://tech4tea.com/blog/2011/01/09/cloning-out-distractions-using-gimp-part-9-of-14/
You can earn your cloning badge in short order. :-D
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