jvo Loc: left coast of the east coast

HMMMM, what would be the next logical step if we don't pay people a wage they can live on? i got it - they couldn't pay their taxes and their mortgage!

(they really didn't want to live in that cozy little house - they obviously wanted to live on the street!!!) {sarcasm alert!} yeh, that minimum mcdonalds job works for america!!!!

p.s. it's surprising how many workers benefited from unions, and now decry their existence.

suziq48 Loc: SE Michigan

That's because everyone filling the stadiums (Comerica Park and Ford Field and Joe Louis Arena) come from the suburbs.

jcave Loc: Cecilia, Kentucky

I'll second and add my two-cents in support of those who believe that the liberal agenda leads to eventual collapse. Crime is certainly a contributing factor and I suspect we will see more of the same pattern in Chicago, Philly and other once great American cities. The economy of the nation remains on shaky ground. With increased taxation, government control, welfare, illegal immigration, overspending and corruption I see no positive outcome. As a veteran, former college educator, retiree and current local member of my town's government I find all of this very disturbing to say the least.

tiger1640 Loc: Michigan

So Politics had NOTHING to do with it. Let see in Michigan all you have to do is spend 6 years in government and you get a great pension and paid health care the rest of your life. Now who pays for that, us the tax payers. The government wanted to cut the health care and pensions of the auto workers when they bailed them out. So why doesn't the government cut their own health care and pensions to save this country. The tax payers of this country are going to support politicians for as long as they live. I doubt that any of them will ever need Medicare of social security.
I have even see where some workers of this government made more money being retired then when they were working. And we the tax payer will be paying for their pensions and health care of the past politicians the present and the future ones. This government is too big and waste to much of our money and they are to blame the condition of this country. They let Companies keep their money offshore and not pay taxes. How do these Companies that are run by Americans do everything they can do as not to pay their fair share of taxes. Here GE The company has beaten Uncle Sam. It paid no U.S. taxes for 2010, The New York Times reported. In fact, it received a tax benefit of $3.2 billion.
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TheeGambler Loc: The green pastures of Northeast Texas

Keep wearing your "Dunce hat!"

The Free Market and Competition, did not cause Detroit to self-destruct...

Madchemist Loc: Nesbit, MS

The reason the population left was from the poor management of the leaders of the city over 6 decades. Most of which was extremely liberal. The corruption (just look at the Kwame years) was rampant with the leadership just lining their own pockets. It is really quite disgusting and sad and quite frankly, this is what the citizens of this once great city voted for. Hopefully now they will begin to see the light and this action will be the beginning of a true recovery.

Bmac Loc: Long Island, NY

Thank you for your astute posting on the subject Matt. You are right we should all just stick to photography, it is basically a photography forum isn't it? In that regard, thank you for your one thread regarding photography. :thumbup:

Madchemist Loc: Nesbit, MS

Agree...it was the criminals that ran this city into the sewer.

TheeGambler Loc: The green pastures of Northeast Texas

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There is no city or country, run by blacks, where the people are prosperous and free. Just fact!

heyrob Loc: Western Washington

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windshoppe Loc: Arizona

Lots of simplistic, myopic explanations for very long-standing and complex problems--many, I suspect, from people who have never set foot in the state of Michigan, let alone Detroit. I suggest you stick to photography.

sirhc

"The murder rate is 11 times that of New York City"

You may consider this racist if you like, but the statistics tell a lot when you consider that black on black murder was 94% of all black murders, over 260,000 between 1971 and 2011. Many many times higher than any other group. Here are the population numbers for Detroit present day.

Race and ethnicity

As of the 2010 Census, the racial composition of the city was:

82.7% Black or African American;
10.6% White (7.8% non-Hispanic whites);
3% from other races;
1.1% Asian;
2.2% from two or more races;
0.4% American Indian;
0.02% Pacific Islander.

In addition, 6.8% of the population self-identified as Hispanic or Latino, of any race, with ancestry mainly from Mexico and Puerto Rico.[157]

Where are the leaders of the black community? Why are Jackson and Sharpton not acting to end these horrible behaviors? Black on Black crime is a shameful waste of potentially good people. You can't fight the numbers.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

Hmmmm, well that is definitely part of it, but it does not wash away Detroit's history of corruption, it does not cleanse the hands of politicians and bureaucrats who sign off on union contracts knowing full well that their motivations are more politically self-serving than they are in the interest of their citizens. It does not address the shear insanity of continuation of public sector contracts that define pension benefits rather than defining pension contributions, a move that was made in the private sector years ago as defined benefits can lead to the situation that so many municipalities are finding themselves today, as pension and benefit funding are squeezing out their ability to provide essential services.

Yes, the economic decline of Detroit's base that was centered around the auto industry certainly contributed to the current events taking place in Detroit, but so did the corrupt practices of liberal politicians, many of which are behind bars as we debate this, and the liberal custom of using the public treasury to appease their political base, rather than projecting forward and responsibly managing a declining revenue base.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

Huh?

pjreed Loc: Tonopah, Arizona

It was supposed to one day be a casino, but they couldn't get gambling passed.