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Jul 10, 2013 00:43:17   #
FredB Loc: A little below the Mason-Dixon line.
 
Nice shot, RRG6481.. Can we call your "RR" for short?...

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Jul 10, 2013 00:44:21   #
rrg6481 Loc: USA
 
Tack sharp is what I strive for in every shot...its the discipline it demands that sets the bar ...I don't care what the customer thinks is acceptable...I know when I am hired they will get my best every time. Your comment is riddled with mediocrity. Sorry...don't mean to be critical but as a pro I don't settle for less. My customers compliment the work that they are paying for so I must be doing something right. Great photos help sell real estate....no question...some customers don't give a crap about the quality or the dynamic range of a photo ...but I do!!!

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Jul 10, 2013 00:57:52   #
rrg6481 Loc: USA
 
RR is fine Fred

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Jul 10, 2013 01:03:27   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
rrg6481 wrote:
Tack sharp is what I strive for in every shot...its the discipline it demands that sets the bar ...I don't care what the customer thinks is acceptable...I know when I am hired they will get my best every time. Your comment is riddled with mediocrity. Sorry...don't mean to be critical but as a pro I don't settle for less. My customers compliment the work that they are paying for so I must be doing something right. Great photos help sell real estate....no question...some customers don't give a crap about the quality or the dynamic range of a photo ...but I do!!!
Tack sharp is what I strive for in every shot...it... (show quote)

I'm not talking about taking a deliberately lousy picture. I'm talking about taking a good picture (like your first example) that will show the advantages of the listing without looking like it's too good to be true or, conversely, shows every minor flaw. I've has my license several years, and I can tell you the picture does not sell the house. There are certain precautions to take, of course; I've spent a bit of my anticipated commission having a landscape contractor clean up the yard and I have done some painting myself before the picture is taken. I've had pools and drapes cleaned. I've even scrubbed appliances and polished floors. But I don't want my client to walk up to a house that has been photoshopped to death and find that the lawn hasn't had a drop of water on it in six months. I sold a house like that once, but my MLS picture showed a dry front lawn, my listing notes addressed that fact, the client saved $2500 on the price - and I got lots of referrals because I was honest and had used the "warts" as a selling point.

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Jul 10, 2013 01:34:55   #
sshinn1 Loc: Phoenix
 
rrg6481 wrote:
Looks like it needs a bit more sharpening...


I like that, looks great! I think you're going to cost me a little money, I'm going to need to get the full version of photomatix...

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Jul 10, 2013 02:03:33   #
rrg6481 Loc: USA
 
OK..."Mr. Mogul" I will respond once more to you and this is it dude....I have been working with realtors, THOUSANDS, PROFESSIONALLY since 1992 in Denver and nationally, as a print shop owner / operator...including a bunch of realtors that migrated here from California...when selling real estate was like selling drugs on the street....and NOW... as a professional real estate photographer....IT IS A FACT,GREAT PHOTOS sell real estate when the market is a buyers/sellers market, sellers market and buyers market. It can make all the difference to an agent who knows quality and has no problem spending a bit more for the TACK SHARP photos and my expertise because they know it could mean attracting a buyer who is willing to hire a realtor who exhibits the professional quality in representation from the model of his or her automobile, the way he or she dresses, their physical appearance, curbside manners, web presence including listing activity reports etc..., and general or specialized real estate knowledge including the listing brochure quality, design, their slogan and overall realtor brand which is enhanced with GREAT PHOTOS!! That's the caliber of realtor I work with every day!! OUR MLS does not allow for Heavy Photo Shopped images nor do many across the country I would assume. The photo I uploaded is not heavily photo shopped or enhanced other than recreation of the natural colors and image data the scene presented. You haven't been selling real estate long enough to know if good photography sells homes or not. I regularly work with 35 year seasoned veterans of the industry who know the very first thing to do is get great photos of their new listing. And as a former realtor I know what the ef I am talking about. Just because you haven't had the experience of winning a commission solely based on photo image quality does not make you an expert on whether or not GREAT PHOTOS do or don't sell real estate. Comprende, comrade?...or whatever!! Yes you are right...not all real estate sells because of the photos...I am not narrow minded enough to believe that for a minute, but GREAT Photos are a must for every listing....because it keeps me in business...I don't mean to be harsh but you kinda got under my skin Mr. Mogul...I have to say almost every time I get on this site to help some one there is always some BOZO that has to chime in and challenge me with there self centered, unrealistic, opinion about my advice. If any thing it is entertaining at the least. See what you started Steve....this is a great site despite the distractions some times. You seem passionate about your work and that's a must for GREAT PHOTOS...have a great time shooting. RRG



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Jul 10, 2013 02:20:42   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
rrg6481 wrote:
I don't mean to be harsh but you kinda got under my skin Mr. Mogul.

Sorry to hear that; I certainly didn't mean to. Your photos were very nice and in a rural setting might help sell the property. You are obviously more knowledgeable about the subject than I am, so please permit me to leave gracefully. I thought we could have a reasonable and interesting discussion. I never meant to offend you. Please accept my deepest apology.

BTW, it's Mogul (like the train); why the "Mr."?

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Jul 10, 2013 02:23:41   #
rrg6481 Loc: USA
 
Just work your ass off learning if you have the curiosity and it will pay off....BTW not all my photos are HDR...here is one composed from 2 pics and processed in Photo Shop. The one draw back with HDR is CA, Chromatic Aberations Not a photo killer but needs to be held to a minimum. I purposely held back on the HDR processing of this pic because the dynamic range was not was not broad enough...no need for HDR. OK...I am done.

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Jul 10, 2013 02:25:32   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
rrg6481 wrote:
Just work your ass off learning if you have the curiosity and it will pay off....BTW not all my photos are HDR...here is one composed from 2 pics and processed in Photo Shop. The one draw back with HDR is CA, Chromatic Aberations Not a photo killer but needs to be held to a minimum. I purposely held back on the HDR processing of this pic because the dynamic range was not was not broad enough...no need for HDR. OK...I am done.

Thank you.

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Jul 10, 2013 02:30:52   #
rrg6481 Loc: USA
 
Mogul wrote:
Sorry to hear that; I certainly didn't mean to. Your photos were very nice and in a rural setting might help sell the property. You are obviously more knowledgeable about the subject than I am, so please permit me to leave gracefully. I thought we could have a reasonable and interesting discussion. I never meant to offend you. Please accept my deepest apology.

BTW, it's Mogul (like the train); why the "Mr."?


You probably did mean no harm and I too but you came off like a arrogant expert on a subject I know enough about to know you have not been in the real estate biz very long. No worries....good luck with your new career. Keep shootin eh?

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Jul 10, 2013 02:49:22   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
rrg6481 wrote:
you came off like a arrogant expert on a subject I know enough about to know you have not been in the real estate biz very long. No worries....good luck with your new career.

Actually, It's not a new career; I've been around a lot longer than you think. But real estate is not my first choice of professions and I am not in practice at this time. I'm really not very good at it; that's what I get for trying to follow in my family's footsteps. Oh, yes, the insulting comments really weren't necessary. Have a good day.

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Jul 11, 2013 00:58:03   #
georgevedwards Loc: Essex, Maryland.
 
You are using the real estate industry to establish an over all standard of what a good photograph is. But that works only in the rather narrow commercial market you are in. There is a creative aesthetic universe in reality that includes a much greater range of possibilities. Blurry backgrounds, special effects, it would be fatally boring if every photo were the same. I like to use the full scale, I want to be able to do pictures like your fine sample of the horse at twilight, but I explore the abstract and special effects to an equal degree.
rrg6481 wrote:
Tack sharp is what I strive for in every shot...its the discipline it demands that sets the bar ...I don't care what the customer thinks is acceptable...I know when I am hired they will get my best every time. Your comment is riddled with mediocrity. Sorry...don't mean to be critical but as a pro I don't settle for less. My customers compliment the work that they are paying for so I must be doing something right. Great photos help sell real estate....no question...some customers don't give a crap about the quality or the dynamic range of a photo ...but I do!!!
Tack sharp is what I strive for in every shot...it... (show quote)

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Jul 11, 2013 01:41:04   #
rrg6481 Loc: USA
 
The first sentence in your comment is not accurate. But if thats what you think...OK. I do other kinds of photography too. Not just real estate. Just saying if one wants to get good at HDR it takes a lot of work. I approach all my work with an eager sense of productiveness. Just my style. Attached is a couple of dogs I did last year.

Cici
Cici...

Lily
Lily...

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