Would your religious views change if a super intelligent life form were found on another planet?
Jul 1, 2013 10:48:34 #
pounder35 wrote:
If a God created the whole universe he really screwed up in this neighborhood. :roll:
Humans are screw up not GOD that's why you have FREE will Ponder, to choose why is that so hard for you to understand?
Jul 1, 2013 10:53:13 #
Audie Thornburg wrote:
So, what are you waiting for? Attain Jesus! It's a heart issue not a head issue. The hardest road traveled is the distance from your head to your heart!!
AMEN Audie
Jul 1, 2013 11:00:01 #
erniehatt wrote:
Of course it's my choice, I wouldn't have it any other way.
Life is about the choices we make, you win some you lose some, them's the breaks.
I now believe it's time to end this post, as there will never be a winner in it, it's a never ending story. BYE
Life is about the choices we make, you win some you lose some, them's the breaks.
I now believe it's time to end this post, as there will never be a winner in it, it's a never ending story. BYE
Such a Fatalist you are Ernie. Set down in secret and have a good long talk to Jesus let him open your eyes to a REAL life man!
Jul 1, 2013 11:09:09 #
You have freedom to choose, God provided it. But wheather you believe or not in Heaven, hell, God, or the devil. That does not change the reality, or the existance of it.
What Faith does is, to change your final destiny. The Bible tell you that to have Faith in and to follow Jesus (Gods son), you will have eternal life. The Bible also tells you to reject Jesus, is eternal damnation.
Its your choice, no one will force you. No one is going to drag you screaming, and kicking to do something you do not want. At least not now, but after you die - if its without Jesus. Yes you will be dragged kicking, and screaming - for all eternity kicking, and screaming in eternal pain in the lake of fire. This is the judgement.
What Faith does is, to change your final destiny. The Bible tell you that to have Faith in and to follow Jesus (Gods son), you will have eternal life. The Bible also tells you to reject Jesus, is eternal damnation.
Its your choice, no one will force you. No one is going to drag you screaming, and kicking to do something you do not want. At least not now, but after you die - if its without Jesus. Yes you will be dragged kicking, and screaming - for all eternity kicking, and screaming in eternal pain in the lake of fire. This is the judgement.
Jul 1, 2013 11:20:55 #
steve40 wrote:
You have freedom to choose, God provided it. But w... (show quote)
I might add - God created you (yes he did) so He has the right to destroy you (body and soul). You belong to Him rather you believe in Him or not.
Jul 1, 2013 11:47:25 #
steve40 wrote:
You have freedom to choose, God provided it. But w... (show quote)
You miss the basic premise of any religious belief. The whole concept of GOOD, EVIL, HEAVEN or HELL are all generated by religions and have no basis in proven fact. They are your belief in some afterlife and a supreme being. By definition, FAITH can not be proved with science or discovery by experimentation.
In any free society, everyone has the right to believe or not believe in religion. And there can never be any satisfactory resolution to any dispute or debate and attempting to convert a non-believer on this website and forum is futile.
Jul 1, 2013 12:58:58 #
singleviking wrote:
You miss the basic premise of any religious belief... (show quote)
Ponder This: I would rather live my life as a Christian and when I die find out that it isn't true than to live my life as an athiest then when I die find out that it really is true!
Jul 1, 2013 13:49:04 #
Audie Thornburg wrote:
Ponder This: I would rather live my life as a Christian and when I die find out that it isn't true than to live my life as an athiest then when I die find out that it really is true!
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Jul 1, 2013 15:07:29 #
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Faith can not be proved with science or discovery by experimentation.
You have hit the nail, square on the head. Faith that requires proof, is not faith. Questions that require proof, are not from faith.
Faith is one of the mysteries of God, those that have it understand it is not their own, but a gift from God. Those who do not have God in their lives, do not have faith, and cannot understand.
But if that is your only defense, that you couldn't prove it, that won't go anywhere at your judgement.
Oh yes - you mentioned Religion. This may be the 500th time I have said I am not religious, I am a Christian. But I just have to keep on repeating this, seems like none understand.
Jul 1, 2013 15:54:07 #
steve40 wrote:
You have hit the nail, square on the head. Fait... (show quote)
I don't understand your distinction.
Religious:
- Having or showing belief in and reverence for a deity
Christian:
- A religious person who believes Jesus is the Christ and who is a member of a Christian denomination
- (religion) relating to or characteristic of Christianity
Jul 1, 2013 16:03:08 #
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I don't understand your distinction.
Religious:
- Having or showing belief in and reverence for a deity
Christian:
- A religious person who believes Jesus is the Christ and who is a member of a Christian denomination
- (religion) relating to or characteristic of Christianity
Religious:
- Having or showing belief in and reverence for a deity
Christian:
- A religious person who believes Jesus is the Christ and who is a member of a Christian denomination
- (religion) relating to or characteristic of Christianity
One there you go, referring to an educated difiniton. Two at the beginning of the Church, there were no denominations, I do not subscribe to any denominational doctrine. I subscribe to the teachings of God, as in the KJV Bible.
I do my best to obey the commands of my Lord Jesus, and walk in his love. And that is what it is, to be a Christian. You do not have to be a Baptist, Methodist, Presbyterian, Ect, Ect.
Jul 1, 2013 16:33:26 #
steve40 wrote:
You have hit the nail, square on the head. Fait... (show quote)
Steve, I understand your distinction and totally agree with it. I have seen the power of prayer many times in my life and I can't imagine the emptiness of having a belief that this life is all there is.
Jul 1, 2013 16:37:08 #
steve40 wrote:
One there you go, referring to an educated difiniton. Two at the beginning of the Church, there were no denominations, I do not subscribe to any denominational doctrine. I subscribe to the teachings of God, as in the KJV Bible.
I do my best to obey the commands of my Lord Jesus, and walk in his love. And that is what it is, to be a Christian. You do not have to be a Baptist, Methodist, Presbyterian, Ect, Ect.
I do my best to obey the commands of my Lord Jesus, and walk in his love. And that is what it is, to be a Christian. You do not have to be a Baptist, Methodist, Presbyterian, Ect, Ect.
By definition, you need not be a member or participant in any ordained or proper religious organization to be classified "religious". You admittedly subscribe to the teachings of the KJV Bible, but this is not written by or the words of GOD. It has been corrupted and altered by numerous groups and individuals over the years.
The bible was originally written as a social guide and pseudo-history book (origins of the universe, life, rules for social order, mankind and possible end) and written with the comprehensions of science and physics and limited intellect of the writer. Every word in this document is based on the interpretation and recollections of the authors and not written by GOD. This is like saying that every word coming out of the POPE's mouth is GOD's word and directive. Church leaders of all faiths are elected politicians with fancy attire. You might as well consider members of the Supreme Court as spokesmen for GOD too then, since they dictate social rule of law if it wasn't for our separation of church and state so that no single belief system outweighs any other as long as this system abides by the rule of law of the land.
Jul 1, 2013 16:54:54 #
singleviking wrote:
By definition, you need not be a member or partici... (show quote)
That is your views and you are welcome to them but if I want to belive differently then why can't I? The bible is the word of God. That is what I belive. And before you say that I should not shove it down your throat, I am not but then I can say that you are trying to shove your views down my throat. Now, who wins? By the way, I am Baptist, Southern Convention type but I also agree with Steve40 and others. God is one, we are one with God.
Jul 1, 2013 16:55:24 #
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By definition, you need not be a member or participant in any ordained or proper religious organization to be classified "religious". You admittedly subscribe to the teachings of the KJV Bible, but this is not written by or the words of GOD. It has been corrupted and altered by numerous groups and individuals over the years.
This is the rhetoric of those, who want to destroy the Bible. Now you prove that to be true.
The Bible has survived continuous abuse, and has endured. Much of it by the religious, more than by disbelievers; believe it or not.
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