VietVet Loc: Brooklyn, NY

I don't like what adobe has done with this creative cloud bs. I have read last night that there have been well over seven hundred thousand subscribers to it so far. I have written to photography clubs such as PPA and others to help to fight this and have also notified adobe on this matter. Hopefully they will change and not leave most of us out in the cold.

ted45 Loc: Delaware

I do not understand the attitude of many on UHH regarding this subject. People make comments and then state that they have never used Photoshop and never will. WTF?

When you join the Creative Cloud you download the program of your choice and install it on your machine. I found it to be less expensive than buying the box version. Software manufacturers have been moving to electronic delivery over the last several years as a replacement for the old box and mail it system. I like it.

Many on here tout one program or another and they all are described as "like" Photoshop. I have used them all and they are "like" Photoshop but none of them is as powerful as Photoshop or as useful.

This is simply a more modern method of marketing their product. This method allows them to gradually upgrade and change available features instead of the constant introduction of "new and improved" versions for which you have to shell out a ton of money to upgrade. Like it or not things change. You buy it or not. It really is that simple.

altheman Loc: Christchurch, New Zealand

Photoshop CS6 costs A$1,062.00 on the adobe web site here in New Zealand, which works out to about NZ$1250. All I want is Photoshop. At around NZ$25-$26 a month for Photoshop CC it will take around 4 years for me to pay Adobe what they are asking for CS6 by which time I would be wanting to upgrade so all starts again. I figure that it will be 5 to 6 years before it starts to cost more than having to buy a software package that has a whole lot of stuff I don't want. (@ todays exchange rates!!)

VietVet Loc: Brooklyn, NY

Make no mistake, you will be paying much more for adobe by using it through the cloud especially if you use only one or two of their programs. Their introductory price is for the first year and will go up substantially after that. It a way for the company to make much more in profits and to he'll with the small companies and individuals who use their products and software.

altheman Loc: Christchurch, New Zealand

We shall wait and see

ted45 Loc: Delaware

Since I do not possess the ability to tell the future like you do, I must disagree. The history of the computer and software industry is that things have gotten cheaper. The original PC was well over $2,000 and had no hard drives. Today you can buy an extremely powerful machine for under $500. Subscriptons have a way of leveling out. If they don't people stop subscribing and the company goes away. Remember CompUServ? Didn't think so!

If you want to buy Photoshop CS6 on Amazon it is around $674. If you buy a single product CC subscription for Photoshop it is $19 a month. Do the math.

DaveHam Loc: Reading UK

The cloud and downloading software is not I think the issue here. Software has been available for download via the internet for most of the last decade and we are all used to that and appreciate the facility it offers.

By switching to the cloud Adobe is monitoring license use by requiring it's customers to log on periodically and validate their license. Terrific. Instead of buying a DVD and a license number and validating that installation once at installation (when you have decent internet access) you are expected to have periodic validation based on a pay monthly process (when internet access may not be available).

Now the crux of the problem. Some of us make a living by travelling in many cases for extended periods. No matter what the guru's believe who dream up these ideas internet access is far from universal and in many areas I travel in depends on exceedingly flaky mobile communications. I include in this large areas of the US, Canada, Europe, Africa, India and China. There is no possibility of communications improving in any of these areas.

So, I could find myself sitting in such a location with the Adobe license out of validation unable to work. To make things convenient for Adobe I suppose I could trek out, validate and trek back in again? Perhaps they would pay for that?

Adobe have not thought this through. Hopefully the torrent of protest will enable them to 'rethink their business model' or whatever the latest euphemism is for listening to their clients.

VietVet Loc: Brooklyn, NY

First off, I'm not a fortune teller and all info I posted is directly on adobes web page. The cost you quoted for CS6 is for full version. Most upgrade from a previous version and some skip a version or two before upgrading. I went from a pre CS version to than CS2 than CS4 and finally CS6. For the last upgrade I payed 149.00 from adobe direct. So as you said, do the math. For the record I've been an Adobe user for well over twenty five years
And consider them the best photo software in the business.

ted45 Loc: Delaware

You make a good point. However, since the software is on you machine and can be used without connecting to the internet there should be no problem. I have always found the tech support at Adobe to be extremely reasonable.

What they are doing is also designed to cut down on pirating. Cutting lose by theft should, in theory, keep our cost level. The problem is that anything man designs and creates can be stolen by another man. I read an article that indicates the software pirates have already found a way to pirate the CC.

Walmart loses just over $3 billion a year to theft. It is a shame that we have so many willing to steal the work of others.

DaveHam Loc: Reading UK

This is not the case. The license has to be validated via the cloud automatically, I suppose to prove you are paying your bills.

There are better ways to prevent piracy than this, such as linking the license number to a particular machines CPU serial number.

authorizeduser Loc: Monroe, Michigan

Most companies which do not want to go the way of the dinosaurs eventually capitulate to the demands of the customer. I can see Adobe dropping this cloud thing, severely curbing it and/or letting customers buy software packages again. There are just too many other options and I suspect very few actually HAVE to use Photoshop. As previously stated, Microsoft backed away from the cloud after its customers through a major fit. The cloud is nothing more than an attempt to corral and back into a corner all customers and bleed their wallets ..... forever! Has nothing to do with piracy and everything to do with $$$! IMHO

CLOUD SERVING = :thumbdown:

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

Basically, the caller is advised that "This call may be recorded..." with the concept that it will help them improve their customer service. Having a small amount of call center experience, the recording is used to confront the employee regarding quality, knowledge of subject matter, attitude, etc.

The caller may not be asked for approval to record, but they are advised of the possibility of being recorded.
-Bob

arlissd

That is the price for one year. The price doubles the second year.

arlissd

Do not forget when you stop your subscription, your applications stop functioning, so you will no longer own the software. Also, you pay twice the price or more for the same software.

HEART Loc: God's Country - COLORADO

Digital media law:
http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/recording-phone-calls-and-conversations