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Jun 1, 2013 09:27:25 #
jerryc41 wrote:
I hate to say this, but I don't think total knowledge of LR is possible. That's probably not true, but it seems like I'm always finding new things it can do and new ways to use it.
However, I believe that my statement does apply to Photoshop. That program is just too big for anyone to master the entire thing.
However, I believe that my statement does apply to Photoshop. That program is just too big for anyone to master the entire thing.
Agree, but that's true of most software today. I've been using Excel for 20+ years and do programming within it using its macro functionality but I bet that I only know about 10% of its totality. I can't imagine ever knowing more than 10% of CS6 - I'm probably at 1% now!
Jun 1, 2013 09:39:41 #
ecobin wrote:
Agree, but that's true of most software today. I've been using Excel for 20+ years and do programming within it using its macro functionality but I bet that I only know about 10% of its totality. I can't imagine ever knowing more than 10% of CS6 - I'm probably at 1% now!
Me too. It's all overkill now. They come up with more and more ways to do things, and photographers say, hello look at all the new goodies, and let me try that, and the companies come up with another product , or upgraded product and you have to buy that, and so on. It's getting way too complex now . We photographers are spending more time in the house doing PP, than out in the field shooting. Just one man's opinion!
Jun 1, 2013 10:50:42 #
georgemc wrote:
Jerry, I want to get LR4 but have a simple/beginner question. I do not use PhotoShop. MUST I use PhotoShop to use Lightroom? My intent is to use Lightroom for ingesting/cataloging photos. Not PP.
Thanks for any help.
Thanks for any help.
No, you can use LR as a stand alone or use 'any' other editor you like.
Jun 1, 2013 10:53:40 #
jerryc41 wrote:
What I would like to know how the F%#@! Kelby does it? He has a day job, a Family, and he travels a lot. I am just lucky that I have time to wipe myself after using the restroom.I hate to say this, but I don't think total knowledge of LR is possible. That's probably not true, but it seems like I'm always finding new things it can do and new ways to use it.
However, I believe that my statement does apply to Photoshop. That program is just too big for anyone to master the entire thing.
However, I believe that my statement does apply to Photoshop. That program is just too big for anyone to master the entire thing.
Jun 1, 2013 11:02:59 #
tainkc wrote:
What I would like to know how the F%#@! Kelby does it? He has a day job, a Family, and he travels a lot. I am just lucky that I have time to wipe myself after using the restroom.
Kelby's day job is Lightroom and Photoshop and he has a crew to help him
Jun 1, 2013 11:17:02 #
rpavich wrote:
Downloaded and using every day...it's a huge step up from 4.
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Jun 1, 2013 11:28:18 #
georgemc wrote:
Thanks Jerry and Searcher. I just didn't want to go out and buy Lightroom and THEN find out it was no good unless I paid for PS too. I appreciate your help
However Lightroom works seamlessly with both Photoshop and Photoshop Elements.
Photoshop Elements 11 is by far the best buy. It is a light version of both Lightroom and Photoshop in one package. Although underutilized by many I found the Organizer in Elements equal to the one in Lightroom...and the Editor and ACR in Elements do most of what you can do with Photoshop.
If patient you can get Elements for $50 in the U.S. when Costco or Amazon put it on sale. Normally $79.
Jun 1, 2013 11:56:44 #
MtnMan wrote:
However Lightroom works seamlessly with both Photoshop and Photoshop Elements.
Photoshop Elements 11 is by far the best buy. It is a light version of both Lightroom and Photoshop in one package. Although underutilized by many I found the Organizer in Elements equal to the one in Lightroom...and the Editor and ACR in Elements do most of what you can do with Photoshop.
If patient you can get Elements for $50 in the U.S. when Costco or Amazon
put it on sale. Normally $79.
Photoshop Elements 11 is by far the best buy. It is a light version of both Lightroom and Photoshop in one package. Although underutilized by many I found the Organizer in Elements equal to the one in Lightroom...and the Editor and ACR in Elements do most of what you can do with Photoshop.
If patient you can get Elements for $50 in the U.S. when Costco or Amazon
put it on sale. Normally $79.
It was just on sale at Best Buy in our area
NC for 49$. Actually they did a package deal
as well with premiere elements as well as adobe
elements 11 for 79$. I bought the package of
both for my daughter. 😊
Jun 1, 2013 12:22:02 #
rpavich wrote:
Luckily, I'm happy to use the best tool and don't get bogged down by things like that.
jeep_daddy wrote:
They say that it's a bit of a crippled version at best. I think it's still full of bugs as well.
Here's the link I read that explains that the beta won't import your previous catalog (the Beta version is crippled) and that it's got bugs. It also can't be run in the Windows Vista operating system and one of Apple' operating systems (Snow Leopard). Also, when it was first announced I got an email from Adobe inviting me to watch a LR5 presentation and the woman spokesperson that put on the presentation was really excited about the new healing tools, crop tool etc. She spoke and demonstrated only those tools above the 'Basic' panel.
http://forums.adobe.com/message/5238533
I don't know who "they" are but they are 100% wrong.
Also as far as bugs? That's not what I've heard OR experienced at all.
"they" are Adobe Community. Here's a link: http://forums.adobe.com/message/5238533
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I've read that about all it can do better than version 4 is brush tool, spot tool, clone tool and graduated filter tools are improved. I prefer to use CS for this stuff anyway.
I received an invite by Adobe to check out a video by Adobe demonstrating the new exciting features in LR5 and "all they talked about" were the tools above the "Basic" panel.
Not true again...there is quite an exciting list of features.
Yes, there are some other features but again, check out the complete list here in this link and most of them are just things to improve the performance of LR, not improvements in editing. I'm still not that excited about it. Also, it appears that if you use some of those new tools in LR5 and then try to open the same image in CS6 ACR, it will give a warning that a mismatch has occurred and "Open Anyway" will be missing the new corrections (i.e. spot removal strokes, upright, radial gradients, etc.) So it appears to me that LR5 will be fully supported by the new ACR in the Cloud version, but not ACR that comes with CS6. Of course, if you open the image directly into CS6 then all the changes will be fine.
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Besides, I'm not sure I'm going to keep supporting Adobe by buying much more of their products. This Cloud thing really has a bunch of us bothered. Im not saying that I won't buy or pay for "Cloud" but I'm not happy about it as many others feel the same way as me.
Jun 1, 2013 12:35:15 #
jeep_daddy wrote:
jeep_daddy wrote: br They say that it's a bit of a... (show quote)
So what's crippled about it exactly?
Jun 1, 2013 12:52:15 #
rpavich wrote:
So what's crippled about it exactly?
The only thing crippled is the fact it will not mess up your existing catalog. I believe this is a safety issue until the real version is released so that you can't save a version you don't own.
I have been using the beta since day 1 and find it runs perfect for me. I will definitely purchase the real version when it is available. I think the new features are great.
Jun 1, 2013 13:05:27 #
Been using CS for several years now without LR. The beta version of LR is slick. It does some nice things, but don't see the advantages. I normally don't shoot hundreds of images so am content with doing PP in CS. Picasa has worked for me for organizing files. So, other than possibly using LR for time lapse photography, when you have to PP many images, the benefits of LR elude me. Am I missing something?
Jun 1, 2013 13:08:32 #
gemlenz wrote:
Been using CS for several years now without LR. The beta version of LR is slick. It does some nice things, but don't see the advantages. I normally don't shoot hundreds of images so am content with doing PP in CS. Picasa has worked for me for organizing files. So, other than possibly using LR for time lapse photography, when you have to PP many images, the benefits of LR elude me. Am I missing something?
No...other than the basic idea behind it; because its specifically designed to "expose" digital film ala a darkroom, the "controls" are very intuitive and easy to understand to get the results you want.
The learning curve is very shallow and it not only develops your film but it catalogs your negatives too.
As far as the benefit to the assembly line idea, I generally don't shoot a few hundred images at a time either but I have done it...and LR's capability to adjust upon import and to sync changes across hundreds of files at once saved me many hours and hours.
Jun 1, 2013 13:26:54 #
Yes I can see the mass PP benefits of LR. However, even if I was shooting a wedding and had many images I probably would not use the exact same PP criteria for every image, so the Sync option would not really help me there. Further PP in CS would be necessary. Maybe I still need to learn more about LR.
Jun 1, 2013 13:40:22 #
gemlenz wrote:
Yes I can see the mass PP benefits of LR. However, even if I was shooting a wedding and had many images I probably would not use the exact same PP criteria for every image, so the Sync option would not really help me there. Further PP in CS would be necessary. Maybe I still need to learn more about LR.
I bet you would.
Example: I KNOW that each shot image I shoot at ISO 1600 is going to get 30 "units" of noise reduction...that's just what I've learned...any more than that...and the image gets slightly soft looking and any less, then it's too noisy.
So...LR will filter your shots by any criteria...let's assume you filter by ISO. You've shot the wedding and the reception was held in a restaurant that wasn't very well lit, so you have 3 basic sets of images:
1.) Medium ISO for the church, ISO 400
2.) Outdoor shots; low iso ISO 100
3.) Reception shots; pretty dark place ISO 1650.
You have 300 of each "type" or shooting situation.
ALL of the reception shots need the same white balance because the lighting didn't change and your Auto WB didn't quite nail it.
So....you have 300 shots to fix WB, noise, sharpening, and such....
Easy peasy..you hit the filter button...you choose "ISO 1650" from the menu....and LR only displays your reception shots....you adjust the WB, noise sharpening, and exposure, and black points, etc...
You hit the sync button and your 299 other shots are now all adjusted fine and it took about 2 minutes.
And now you do the same for the outdoor shots and the wedding shots.
All that's left is individual adjustment for "special cases" like raccoon eyes and things.
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