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May 20, 2013 23:37:23   #
STVest Loc: LA - that's Lower Alabama
 
Bigal wrote:
Hi STVest, I use a 100..400 lens and cannon with 18px. click on "my list" to see what you can get. most are 50% crops with the smaller birds even more.There is no substitute for being as close as poss. And that means being alone,quite ...just sit and wait for them to come to you, got to get into the mode "its not a race, Im here to enjoy the peace and quite, if I don't get it today there's always tomorrow. And finally expect to get one good shot out of 200 or so for various reason . Good luck and enjoy.
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Okay. How do I click on your "my list". I would really like to see an image knowing what the crop factor is. And I'm so glad to hear "one good shot out of 200 or so". Maybe I'm not a totally hopeless case.

Thanks, Bigal.

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May 21, 2013 00:11:09   #
STVest Loc: LA - that's Lower Alabama
 
Thanks to all of you who responded. It sounds like mainly bait and wait. Which I've been doing. Currently, health matters keep us from trekking through the woods and all of my shooting is from the back of the car or from the front porch. About two months ago I put out a bird bath, feeders, and started scattering corn on the ground. The birds have only recently deigned to attend our feeders even though they have been everywhere nearby. We have cardinals, jays, woodpeckers, thrush, dove, quail, blue birds, wrens, robins, mocking birds, chimney sweeps, and many others I'll have to dig out my bird guide to identify. Hawks daily fly overhead to do their hunting and there are always cattle egrets in the pasture across the road. I sit on the front porch, camera on tripod at eye level. It is peaceful and quiet. I miss a lot of good shots because I still have to think about what I'm doing and the birds just won't hold their poses long enough. So, okay, practice, practice. Forget about immediate gratification. Can't imagine how long before I'll be able to get a BIF!

The water birds at the beaches and piers are a lot easier to approach than these yard birds. They are very accustomed to people and love stealing bait and your catch, if they can!

Thanks, Mogul for directing me to MTShooter's thread.

jimni2001, I'm not sure I'm going to thank you. Didn't you read the part where I said I had already overspent? NOW I have to add a digiscope to my wish list. And before, I didn't even know they existed! Just kidding - thanks for your input.

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May 21, 2013 01:57:35   #
BigAl Loc: Lincs UK
 
STVest wrote:
Okay. How do I click on your "my list". I would really like to see an image knowing what the crop factor is. And I'm so glad to hear "one good shot out of 200 or so". Maybe I'm not a totally hopeless case.

Thanks, Bigal.


click on the name on anyone's avatar..then click on "list" of topics created

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May 21, 2013 02:06:46   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
The following explains "crop factor" thoroughly:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crop_factor

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May 21, 2013 05:38:20   #
ebrunner Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
I was referring to a thread that I had posted on Sunday.

http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-120336-1.html

I think this link will get you there.

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May 21, 2013 06:32:44   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
look at these e-books by Alan Murphy he tells you how to get close to birds http://www.alanmurphyphotography.com/ebook.htm

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May 21, 2013 07:02:44   #
sr71 Loc: In Col. Juan Seguin Land
 
wonkytripod wrote:
I agree with Bigal, it's all about enjoying the day and if you get that perfect shot that is a bonus. If you have a regular spot you visit you could try putting out some food for them. I have been feeding the badgers in my woods for almost a year and also leaving clothing such as t-shirts and socks that have been worn several times more than they should have so they get used to my scent as well, now they are happy for me to be around them I will be able to get within a few metres to hopefully get the shots I want. Other than that it is all about lady luck being on your side.

Keep the faith and just keep trying. I also have the sigma 150-500 and have used a 2x converter on it but you do lose clarity with it. :thumbup:
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Feeding the badgers, now isn't that sweet.... Wat r your going to do afterwards????? And on top of all that they are getting acclimatized to humans and will have less fear of em, nice work mate.... Just sayin

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May 21, 2013 07:10:49   #
BboH Loc: s of 2/21, Ellicott City, MD
 
Had one "Pro" tell me that what he does is to keep his tripod betsween himself and the birds, move slow - couple of steps at a time - then stop and wait for the birds to stop looking around and go back to feeding before mcving again.

Not a birder and don't have the patience so don't know how practicle the suggestion is

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May 21, 2013 07:32:14   #
VHD-Tex Loc: Mc Allen Tx.
 
STVest wrote:
Seriously. How do you guys get so close to the birds? Did you take out a 2nd mortgage on your home to buy a super long lens?

I think the time I can call myself a newbie is expiring, but I am still AT LEAST two steps below an amateur. I'm trying: reading this forum, other web sites, and books; taking cont. ed classes; and shooting, shooting, shooting. I am interested in photography as a hobby and have NO desire to turn it into a JOB. (I had a client once who captained his own charter boat - a gorgeous large boat. He would get up in the mornings, look out the window on a beautiful sunny day, and say, "Damn! Now I gotta go fishing.")

Back to my problem. I bought a 150-500 Sigma lens and am shooting with a Canon 60D. I've only had the lens a couple of weeks and know I need a lot more practice in using it. But, really, I had expected it to bring the birds in a lot closer. All of these great bird shots I see posted here - how much are you having to crop the pictures? If you are not cropping a LOT, how do you manage to fill so much of the frame with bird? An invisibility cloak?

Are the 1.4 or 2.0 extenders really useful? Do they degrade the quality of the shot? Did I read on this forum that there is a problem with using the extenders with the Sigma lens? In my enthusiasm, I have already WAY overspent, especially when considering my abilities, and would rather learn how to best use what I already have. Please help.

I appreciate any advise and instruction you can give this poor, confused newbie/-amateur. Thanks for your time!
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STV--You might try building a PVC pipe blind to sit in. Cover it with camo, put out some perches, feed, and water. Find a place where birds hang out. I have presented lots of pictures on UHH using this set up and it works for me.

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May 21, 2013 07:35:05   #
pdhitt Loc: Austin, TX
 
This would be a good place to start to look for a "Cloak of invisibility".
http://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/local/austin/now-you-see-it--ut-develops-Really Right Stuff L-plate-of-invisibility

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May 21, 2013 07:55:47   #
sundancer2004 Loc: oak island, nc
 
good morning ST, oneof the answers lies in the photo of ST. My boss is a well known birder with one hell of a website.He uses a 500mm lense. We, who cannot justify the thousands for that lense purchase the less expensive one, the Sigma 150-500. We have to try harder to match his. I believe that luck plays a large part. Lucky to find the subject matter and patience to cultivate it to its extreme. I just missed a great shot of a Pileated woodpecker because I kept trying to stalk closer. from that I learned that I should take the shot at a distance for cropping then continue to stalk hoping for the wonderful shot. the Sigma is awonderful lense, keep playing with it, both with a tripod/monopod and hand held with high ISO, its great. I'm sure I havn't expressed myself well, so let me thank all those on here for sharing their expertiese.

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May 21, 2013 10:40:03   #
tainkc Loc: Kansas City
 
Here is how I do it:

http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-120410-1.html

The part with the towel was done as a joke. I just sit real still and the birds seem to ignore me; just like my wife.

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May 21, 2013 10:59:00   #
Mudshark Loc: Illinois
 
I'm no expert in bird photography...but...I would tend to agree with "mooseeyes" remarks. I would add that like almost any area of photography the more you know about your subject the better your work will be. If you truly understand different birds and their natural habits I am sure you can make adjustments that will result in better images. Also, take a look at some of the cheap, pop-up blinds deer hunters use. They aren't worth much, in my opinion, for deer hunting...but they make pretty good photo blinds. Easy to carry, many you just let go of and they pop into a small blind...you can fold them up into a disk, put them back in their sack and even attach them to your camera bag...add a Walkstool seat and you are in business. (Did I mention monopods...?)

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May 21, 2013 11:08:04   #
Mudshark Loc: Illinois
 
Another approach...I've noted that if I drink enough Irish Whiskey I become invisible. People act like they don't see or hear me...guess it works...sometimes I can't see or hear so well either...

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May 21, 2013 11:17:58   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
I don't have anything longer than 400 (not yet). I use the Canon 400/5.6 (cheap, light, but good). Mostly you'll have to be patient and good opportunities will come.

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