Gun laws - just how daft can you get? (Page 14): You continue to confuse me.Either you are for self defense or you ain't.Same applies to an individual as it does a country when it...

DennisK Loc: Pickle City,Illinois

KW Conch wrote:

I remember the attack and I was all for it. My feeling is if someone is part of a group that is trying to kill us, he deserves what he gets. Have you forgotten 9/11 ? I supported GWB when he went into Afghanistan, but he lost me when he went into Iraq. And, YES I would have applauded GWB if he killed al-Awlaki and anyone else who takes up arms against us.
Are you so naive as to believe that we can capture all of these turncoat Americans who flee to other countries and try to kill us ?

You continue to confuse me.Either you are for self defense or you ain't.Same applies to an individual as it does a country when it comes to rights.

DennisK Loc: Pickle City,Illinois

KW Conch wrote:

There is no solution to this issue. There are too... (show quote)

So your anti-gun diatribe has been for........?

JBTaylor Loc: In hiding again

UP-2-IT wrote:

Sort of confused with the post made by the apparently distraut individual Take 5. In one brfeath you are relating to being nearly at tears with Gods grace and mercey then you turn right around and cuse the same God by taking his name in vain.

Good point.

DennisK Loc: Pickle City,Illinois

UP-2-IT wrote:

Sort of confused with the post made by the apparently distraut individual Take 5. In one brfeath you are relating to being nearly at tears with Gods grace and mercey then you turn right around and cuse the same God by taking his name in vain.

:thumbup:

heyrob Loc: Western Washington

KW Conch wrote:

Your actions were understandable under the circumstances. However, that was not the implication of your original statement.

My original statement was to agree that police carry guns to defend themselves first. How has my point changed?

Robert Graybeal Loc: Myrtle Beach

KW Conch wrote:

Social Security recipients, disabled vets, older workers who have been laid off and are unable to find a job. I guess these are all of the takers that "clear minded" people think are looking for a handout.

SS recipients PAID for their insurance benefit their whole lives (and receive 1/3 of the benefit).

Disabled vets PAID for their benefits (and paid to much).

You know EXACTLY who I'm refering to.
Yet, you choose to be an A.H.

PhotoTex Loc: Texas

Crwiwy wrote:

News item on MSN news; br br Town in US orders re... (show quote)

The US courts have held that the local police cannot be held legally responsible for not responding to a 911 for help in a timely manner. So what protects one from a home invasion? Not paranoia- happens all the time in San Antonio where I live. I don't worry about a home invasion as I own a 38 cal. Police Special loaded with police hollow points. I have also noted that crime seems to always go down when a city requires gun ownership. Coincidence? I think not. Most gun violence seems to be between gangs, drunks, and drug disputes. I don't involve myself in any of that.
PhotoTex

heyrob Loc: Western Washington

KW Conch wrote:

All of,the murderers you cited were on US soil. I guess we will have to agree to disagree about those who become traitors and plot to kill Americans. Should we just wait for them to succeed ? If we can't capture them in a hostile foreign country, just let them continue to try and kill us. If I remember correctly, Awlaki sent the underwear bomber to kill Americans.

And Awlaki committed none, only plotted. Last I checked, conspiracy to commit murder is not a capital offense in any state in this union, and it certainly does not carry the death penalty for the guilty party's children. Your arguments are senseless, we didn't use a drone strike to take out Bin Laden, a non-citizen, and proven combatant with blood on his hands. Yet we take out our own citizen, his 16 year old son, and a 17 year old nephew and you don't have an issue with that?

"Dr. Lyle Rossiter, a board-certified clinical psychologist, wrote a book in which he diagnosed the ideology of the left as a tangible mental illness." After reading your nonsensical posts I'm inclined to believe that he's on to something, either that or you're just the rare case of an anencephalic who survived more than a few days past birth.

Ka2azman Loc: Tucson, Az

Uncle Chuck wrote:

Proof that WHAT works? Neither the article nor the... (show quote)

"so what do you base your opinion on?
"My opinion is based upon common sense. If the town was anti-gun - the law wouldn't have passed - but like in Newtown and Connecticut passing laws that re anti-gun because of anti-gun sentiment. Conclusion: a town that passes a law for ownership of a gun is pro-gun. Common sense! To further the conclusion - if pro-gun- they own weapons already. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to know it's one or the other.

Why are you putting words into my mouth that I never said.
"And are you saying that because a household has a gun the residents have nothing to worry about? " Where did you get that. Must be dream land. Or those little voices in your head.

" which seems to be what most posters are worried about" I don'care and what I stated had nothing to do with other posters. OH, those voices are getting louder.

Picdude Loc: Ohio

Crwiwy wrote:

News item on MSN news; br br Town in US orders re... (show quote)

If you don't like it you can always stay away from that town, they probably don't have anything you want.

Ohhh I see now, yet another "foreigner" so bored with their own life that they have to stick their nose into someone else's home and create issues they can't comprehend, spouting opinions few are interested in, all for the sake of stirring up crap.

KW Conch Loc: USA

heyrob wrote:

And Awlaki committed none, only plotted. Last I ch... (show quote)

Your sympathies for the sworn enemies of the United States are despicable. If you can't see the difference between a criminal that is captured on US soil and a sworn enemy who is plotting the deaths of US citizens from a foreign country and beyond the reach of US law enforcement , then it is useless to try to reason with you. It matters not to me whether the person was born here or not. He gave up his constitutional protections when he became a traitor and moved to an enemy country.

By the way, your psychologist hero is apparently a loon.

http://rutherfordl.wordpress.com/2010/07/28/political-ideology-as-mental-illness/

KW Conch Loc: USA

Robert Graybeal wrote:

SS recipients PAID for their insurance benefit their whole lives (and receive 1/3 of the benefit).

Disabled vets PAID for their benefits (and paid to much).

You know EXACTLY who I'm refering to.
Yet, you choose to be an A.H.

That's exactly my point. These are all legitimate recipients of government benefits that they paid into. Yet, they are being lumped into the 47% of takers of handouts by the conservatives.
You are the one who stated that half the country thinks the government owes them a living. Make up your mind.

UP-2-IT Loc: RED STICK, LA

DennisK wrote:

You continue to confuse me.Either you are for self defense or you ain't.Same applies to an individual as it does a country when it comes to rights.

Dennis he is honestly confused he makes the following statement"I supported GWB when he went into Afghanistan, but he lost me when he went into Iraq.

The only problem with that is that he doesn't know the timeline of the two conflicts.
Iraq started 10/07/2001 Afghanistan started 03/19/2003. His confusion extends all the way back to 2001 and it han't improved since then.

KW Conch Loc: USA

UP-2-IT wrote:

Dennis he is honestly confused he makes the following statement"I supported GWB when he went into Afghanistan, but he lost me when he went into Iraq.

The only problem with that is that he doesn't know the timeline of the two conflicts.
Iraq started 10/07/2001 Afghanistan started 03/19/2003. His confusion extends all the way back to 2001 and it han't improved since then.

UP-2_IT, you are showing your ignorance. The timelines are EXACTLY OPPOSITE. You have lost whatever credibility you thought you had.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Afghanistan_%282001%E2%80%93present%29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War

Also, my support or non support was based on the reasons for the wars.

It's no wonder you are confused. You are posting false information that is easy to refute.

UP-2-IT Loc: RED STICK, LA

KW Conch wrote:

UP-2_IT, you are showing your ignorance. The timelines are EXACTLY OPPOSITE. You have lost whatever credibility you thought you had.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Afghanistan_%282001%E2%80%93present%29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War

Also, my support or non support was based on the reasons for the wars.

It's no wonder you are confused. You are posting false information that is easy to refute.

OK, I admit, I had the countries reversed is all. That was my mistake.